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Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-06-22 at 10:58:19
QUOTE(Beta4Life @ Jun 22 2005, 04:41 AM)
You do realize that the economies of both of the countries you just mentioned are nearly 100% dependant on the US right?  There is no threat of other countries causing the US economy to crash, simply because, if it does, the entire world falls into the deepest depression you can imagine.  The world depends on us, and we depend on them, economically speaking, there is no threat here.  Politically they can  censored.gif  off, i don't care what schroeder or chirac think about the US and what we are doing.  Oh and, i never mentioned the EU either, good work directing a comment at me and not even mentioning anything i was talking about smart guy.

I am glad to see that you are angry because i am sure you are some lazy piece of shit that isn't willing to go out and better your life.  You believe that since you only make 15k a year working a Mcdonalds, the people with real jobs should pay to support your lazy ass.  When i graduate and am making a decent living, i don't want to pay 50% of my income so that you can sit around and complain all day about how much this country sucks, while you leach off the successful.  You want to live in a country where you can do this, move to Canada or Norway, then tell me how much you enjoy forking over 75% of what you earn to the government.
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[sarcasm]How could anyone think Americans are arrogant, ignorant warstarters after seeing this quote?[/sarcasm] disgust.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-06-22 at 12:21:23
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You want to live in a country where you can do this, move to Canada or Norway, then tell me how much you enjoy forking over 75% of what you earn to the government.

I love it, health care rocks. Guess who makes a lot of money doing something that's fun? Athletes. Should they be crying that they have to fork over cash to the government? Nope. Should Trump be sad that he has to fork over cash to the govenment? Nope. Why? He doesn't need more money, the government is like mandatory chairity.

Seriously, you're lucky you have access to an education to get you these high end jobs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-06-22 at 12:25:41
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There is no reason why the police should have any power granted under the Patriot act. Do you honestly think that there are terrorists in all the houses? The US is not at any huge risk to terrorists. Why should the police be able to tap our phone lines and internet connections without our permission and without telling us? Why should the police be able to hold us indefinently wihout pressing charges?

It's for the safety all you smart ones. Would you rather have your block blown to hell and your family and friends killed, or would you rather keep your little porn magazines secret? Why do you care so much if they can search your house? What do you have to hide? Are you a terrorist? Are you carrying around some C4? I hope not, because that's the only reason I can see possible for not wanting some guy you will never see again to look in some of your cupboards.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-06-22 at 12:36:07
QUOTE(PsychoTemplar @ Jun 22 2005, 09:21 AM)
I love it, health care rocks. Guess who makes a lot of money doing something that's fun? Athletes. Should they be crying that they have to fork over cash to the government? Nope. Should Trump be sad that he has to fork over cash to the govenment? Nope. Why? He doesn't need more money, the government is like mandatory chairity.

Seriously, you're lucky you have access to an education to get you these high end jobs.
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There's some good truth.

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You do realize that the economies of both of the countries you just mentioned are nearly 100% dependant on the US right? There is no threat of other countries causing the US economy to crash, simply because, if it does, the entire world falls into the deepest depression you can imagine. The world depends on us, and we depend on them, economically speaking, there is no threat here. Politically they can censored.gif off, i don't care what schroeder or chirac think about the US and what we are doing. Oh and, i never mentioned the EU either, good work directing a comment at me and not even mentioning anything i was talking about smart guy.


Not anymore. Ever since the US occupation and conquest (yes, I call it that) of Iraq, both the EU and Japan have been moving their economies away from US depedency.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-06-22 at 15:37:15
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jun 21 2005, 09:51 PM)
Or how about I don't have a couple million dollars sitting around to be donated anywhere.  I'm not a rich person.  I'm using a 4-year-old comp, not the newest, top-of-the-line laptop.

The only way to 'influence' the rich people to donate is through taxes.  Otherwise they just hoard their money of spend it frivoulously.

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You don't need to have a million dollars to donate to the government. It can be 20 or even 50 dollars.

Oh ya, this here is your WMDs.
http://www.ngwrc.org/index.cfm?Page=Article&ID=861
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-06-22 at 15:43:18
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54 @ Jun 22 2005, 12:25 PM)
It's for the safety all you smart ones. Would you rather have your block blown to hell and your family and friends killed, or would you rather keep your little porn magazines secret? Why do you care so much if they can search your house? What do you have to hide? Are you a terrorist? Are you carrying around some C4? I hope not, because that's the only reason I can see possible for not wanting some guy you will never see again to look in some of your cupboards.
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That's not a good argument, even though I'm on your side of this verbal battleground. You could say a tenth of a percent is a very little chance that a terrorist could be hiding in the United States, but that's still too high to comfort people. Say you have a tenth of a percent chance to die each day, that would mean 1 out 1000 days, or less than 3 years.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-06-22 at 23:43:01
it took the terrorists 5 years to plan 9/11. 3 years? Very likely something could happen to us in that time period on American soil.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-06-23 at 00:52:59
It is more likely for the average American citizen to die in a traffic-related accident then be killed by terrorists. Much more likely. So why is so much attention being given to the terrorists? They killed 25,000 people in America, tops. DUI-related incidents claim tens of thousands of lives annually. Terrorists are just not that big a problem.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vampire on 2005-06-23 at 09:02:24
Actually, it's more likely to be hit by a thunder then to die in a terrorist attack.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-06-23 at 10:22:37
But the problem is, people do get struck by lightning. (Thunder's the noise you hear...)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2005-06-23 at 10:32:30
Wow this really Dragged On very long. I can't see how much you could possible talk about bush? Is this like a debate? Is someone Defending him? What good has he done? he has done nothing good. In my oppinon i dont like him for what i see and hear. I think its pointless to argue about this... Everyone is always going to be based on there own oppinions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vampire on 2005-06-23 at 10:37:44
O, lol, well tnx for telling me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by crashtib on 2005-06-23 at 10:45:45
message to beta4life

first you say "you lazy people are just sittin' and playin' to SC"
yes, there's no reason, have i to remember you that you've just replied in STAREDIT.net? if you prefer telling smart things what are you doing in a website made for starcraft??

Moreover you have broken the rules of this forum:
i want you just to STAY POLITE AND RESPECTFULL for others, even if you consider others as silly fat tennagers who stay all day during behind SC.

thats why i suggest you to be a litlle more moderated in your sentences, otherwhile i'll have to call a moderator.

thank you.

oh yeah, and one last thing: no one is censored.gif ing intelligent enough to think his opinion is smarter than the others', even if he is from a GREAT institute and he is just here to guide the sheeps in the good path. its not cos you're gonna win more money that you have to screw others.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-23 at 10:48:23
Bush may not have done many great things, but Kerry would not have been any better. They should've picked a better candidate... disgust.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-23 at 12:30:44
Lewis Black:
"Democratic party is a party of no ideas. Republican party is a party full of bad ideas."

The democrats may have the good ideas sometimes, but they don't have the balls to say it today.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-06-23 at 12:49:08
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 23 2005, 10:48 AM)
Bush may not have done many great things, but Kerry would not have been any better. They should've picked a better candidate...  disgust.gif
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Hmm... wonder what would have happened if Cra-hey-zy w00t.gif Howard Dean was dominated instead. biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-06-23 at 13:06:57
On the Terrorist issue:

Ya, drunk driving cause more deaths year round, but not 3,000 in one day and I think that is what makes people more afriad of terrorist attacks then DUI.


Ya, I don't think Henz Kerry would have done a better job. he would have been an ok president, but he changes his mind on topics too much and didn't explain what he was going to do in Iraq during the election, he would always say "I have a plan, I have a plan, I have a plan".....well, what is your plan?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-23 at 14:13:42
Get 5 20$ bills, and stack them up. Then get 4 one dollar bills, and put a 50$ bill on the top of the one dollar bill stack. People will think that the stack with a 50$ bill on it, has more money in it. When infact it doesn't.

Just cause you see 3k people die in one day, doesn't mean more people are gonna die for that reason compared to where just a few dozen people die every day. However, the one where a few dozen people die everyday, adds up, and goes way beyond the 3k. Yet it is less feared.

Chris, you said it perfectly. That is why people are afraid of terrorists.


Kerry would've been a slightly better president, simply because he would've be able to lie better.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2005-06-23 at 14:41:33
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i just remember:
awfull torture have been permitted, it sounds like some of you haven't ever experimented what pain is to say "torture is nice"

ask your girlfriend to shit on your face, you're gonna see what human beings can really be victim of.

Yeah umm, I don't think Americans shit on their prisoners...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-23 at 14:46:24
Didnt the americans kinda censored.gif around with the iraqi prisoners some time ago? Those actions kinda incited the iraqi dudes to cut off heads of the american people
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-23 at 17:17:32
I would like to bring something up.

If Bush is such a great president, then why are his polls dropping? Even the people who voted for him, are saying he is doing a shitty job.

And then one more thing, it's about 9/11

If you watch the clip of him reading to the class when 9/11 happens, do you not notice that he sits there for about 5-10 minutes? And without any terror in his face? I believe that any other president would have acted imediatly, instead of staying and reading to a class, with no expression on his face.....

That is one reason I believe he was part of the 9/11 attack, because of the expression he gave when he heard about it (just a simple nod and look straight ahead)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-06-23 at 18:29:29
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jun 23 2005, 05:17 PM)
I would like to bring something up.

If Bush is such a great president, then why are his polls dropping?  Even the people who voted for him, are saying he is doing a shitty job.

And then one more thing, it's about 9/11

If you watch the clip of him reading to the class when 9/11 happens, do you not notice that he sits there for about 5-10 minutes?  And without any terror in his face?  I believe that any other president would have acted imediatly, instead of staying and reading to a class, with no expression on his face.....

That is one reason I believe he was part of the 9/11 attack, because of the expression he gave when he heard about it (just a simple nod and look straight ahead)
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That was more opinion than fact.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-23 at 19:14:13
Everyone loves to turn their opinions into facts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-23 at 21:52:40
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Jun 23 2005, 05:29 PM)
That was more opinion than fact.
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Ya, it is a matter of opinion, and that opinion is that the people that liked him, now changed their opinion

(Just like a lot of the senators who voted for the patriot act)

As for the whole sitting in the class thing, that's not a good reason to believe he was in on it. If he was, I'm pretty sure you can find better stuff than that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-24 at 01:19:18
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Jun 23 2005, 03:29 PM)
That was more opinion than fact.
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How the hell is stating this:
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If Bush is such a great president, then why are his polls dropping? Even the people who voted for him, are saying he is doing a shitty job.

more opinion then fact?

Now I can see this:
QUOTE(Kellimus)
If you watch the clip of him reading to the class when 9/11 happens, do you not notice that he sits there for about 5-10 minutes? And without any terror in his face? I believe that any other president would have acted imediatly, instead of staying and reading to a class, with no expression on his face.....

That is one reason I believe he was part of the 9/11 attack, because of the expression he gave when he heard about it (just a simple nod and look straight ahead)

being more opinion then fact.

Why the hell do people think that facts are opinions and visa versa........?
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