Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-07-06 at 23:08:37
She died from it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-06 at 23:17:09
If I ate so much cheese I constipated to the point of death...
But I DO see similiarities between ODing on drugs and the water-death-thingy.
Take too much of a certain thing in, faster than your body can process it, and you die from it...
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**Also, I'm not sure, but I think the X might have been involved slightly.
But I DO see similiarities between ODing on drugs and the water-death-thingy.
Take too much of a certain thing in, faster than your body can process it, and you die from it...
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**Also, I'm not sure, but I think the X might have been involved slightly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-07 at 12:21:48
QUOTE(Zb2k @ Jul 6 2005, 06:54 PM)
"I was naseuas, dizzy, light-headed, and had the intense urge to sit by the toilet for a couple hours til my mind stopped vomiting. I couldn't breathe normally for a couple days. People definitely noticed a large difference in my overall behavior."
Ok, but again even normal chain smokers wont do a pack in 1/2 hour. Plus, you sort of "took it in all at once". For a normal smoker, even though the nicotine may still be taking effect on you, you spaced it out over an hour or two, so it isn't as big of "bang". Plus, none of those symptoms really affected your behavior, they just made you feel like shit, with the exception of you being jumpy. But I don't think any amount of cigs can make you jumpy to the point of endangering others around you, but correct me if that isn't true.
It seems that all the symptoms you listed (with the exception of jumpiness) didn't really change your behavior. So you really were not a danger to anyone else or yourself. (Although, obviously, you can get cancer from smoking, and if you smoked like THAT consistently there is no question that you would.)
To Kame da Sniper:
I am on the same boat as you, my family was literally ripped to shreds because of mother
ing drugs and alchohol.
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Ok, but again even normal chain smokers wont do a pack in 1/2 hour. Plus, you sort of "took it in all at once". For a normal smoker, even though the nicotine may still be taking effect on you, you spaced it out over an hour or two, so it isn't as big of "bang". Plus, none of those symptoms really affected your behavior, they just made you feel like shit, with the exception of you being jumpy. But I don't think any amount of cigs can make you jumpy to the point of endangering others around you, but correct me if that isn't true.
It seems that all the symptoms you listed (with the exception of jumpiness) didn't really change your behavior. So you really were not a danger to anyone else or yourself. (Although, obviously, you can get cancer from smoking, and if you smoked like THAT consistently there is no question that you would.)
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Allergic to cigs? Never heard of that. And you CANNOT OD from nicotine. In other words, the only way nicotine can kill you is through long term effects like lung cancer.
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Not to be rude or anything, but those two posts show that you really don't know whay you're talking about.
First off, you're speaking in the logical sense. He is speaking hypothetically (did you not listen to how he said he did that cause he was dared to?)
How is being jumpy and having a way accellerated heartbeat, not a change in behavior?
Take for example, someone who has never drank any caffine in their life. Give them a soda pop (Surge especailly) and what happens? They aren't themselves anymore because the caffine has stimulated their body functions, thus creating a change in their behavior.
And how was he not a danger to anyone around him while he "felt like shit"? If someone would have said something that pissed him off, or really iritated him, he coulda gotten up in a mad rage and beat the living piss out of them.
And the only reason that drugs ruined your family, is if the person who was doing them, let the drugs take control. I'm not saying that drugs are good or anything, but when someone lets them take over their life, that's when the problems begin to start.
And don't get all pissed off at me because "You don't know how it is!". My uncle was addicted to Methamphetamines. He almost lost everything. His wife, his kids, his house, everything!
My parents were addicted to cocaine before I was born. I have grown up around Marijuana my whole life, and you don't see it taking over my life, do you?
QUOTE(Kame da Sniper @ Jul 6 2005, 08:06 PM)
its happened. a girl did ecstasy, and died of water poisoning because she kept drinking water. It happened a few years ago...and I can't find the article on it...drats...but she drank a frickin lot of water.
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The reason she drank so much water is because Ecstsy (MDMA) dehidrates your body hardcore, so you always have to drink water to stay hydrated. I don't think you can die from "Water Poisoning". It must have been something in the pill because Ecstasy usually has a whole shit load of other stuff added into it. You usually can never get just pure MDMA.
And the reason I don't think she died from "Water Poisoning" is because all the water she should have drank would have been absorbed quickly after entering the body because of the MDMA.
But I guess it's a possibility that you could die from having to much water in your system.... Now that I think about it, yeah, you can lol. I just don't see how she could have died from it while on MDMA....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-07 at 13:32:45
You can die from drinking too much water. It messes up the chemical balances in your body by desalinating.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zb2k on 2005-07-07 at 16:14:54
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jul 7 2005, 10:21 AM)
How is being jumpy and having a way accellerated heartbeat, not a change in behavior?
And how was he not a danger to anyone around him while he "felt like shit"? If someone would have said something that pissed him off, or really iritated him, he coulda gotten up in a mad rage and beat the living piss out of them.
And the only reason that drugs ruined your family, is if the person who was doing them, let the drugs take control. I'm not saying that drugs are good or anything, but when someone lets them take over their life, that's when the problems begin to start.
And don't get all pissed off at me because "You don't know how it is!". My uncle was addicted to Methamphetamines. He almost lost everything. His wife, his kids, his house, everything!
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And how was he not a danger to anyone around him while he "felt like shit"? If someone would have said something that pissed him off, or really iritated him, he coulda gotten up in a mad rage and beat the living piss out of them.
And the only reason that drugs ruined your family, is if the person who was doing them, let the drugs take control. I'm not saying that drugs are good or anything, but when someone lets them take over their life, that's when the problems begin to start.
And don't get all pissed off at me because "You don't know how it is!". My uncle was addicted to Methamphetamines. He almost lost everything. His wife, his kids, his house, everything!
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"How is being jumpy and having a way accellerated heartbeat, not a change in behavior?"
Dude, read my posts again. I said at least twice that there was no change in his behavior except the jumpiness.
"And how was he not a danger to anyone around him while he "felt like shit"? If someone would have said something that pissed him off, or really iritated him, he coulda gotten up in a mad rage and beat the living piss out of them."
Maybe, but I would assume that he wouldn't have the strength to do that. Like how he sat on the toilet for hours because he felt so bad.
"And don't get all pissed off at me because "You don't know how it is!". My uncle was addicted to Methamphetamines. He almost lost everything. His wife, his kids, his house, everything!"
Ok, I recognize that you yourself may have had some tragedy or know your folks how it is, but when I said, "I am on the same boat as you, my family was literally ripped to shreds because of mother censored.gif ing drugs and alchohol." that didn't even scratch the surface as to how bad it really was, and the story is very complicated and tragic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-07 at 17:08:14
QUOTE(Zb2k @ Jul 7 2005, 01:14 PM)
"And how was he not a danger to anyone around him while he "felt like shit"? If someone would have said something that pissed him off, or really iritated him, he coulda gotten up in a mad rage and beat the living piss out of them."
Maybe, but I would assume that he wouldn't have the strength to do that. Like how he sat on the toilet for hours because he felt so bad.
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Maybe, but I would assume that he wouldn't have the strength to do that. Like how he sat on the toilet for hours because he felt so bad.
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He wasn't sitting on the toilet, he was sitting by the toilet. When I feel like crap i'm iritable and if you piss me off i'll freak out (doesn't matter how bad my body hurts) and I sometimes lash out in anger when i'm sick.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zb2k on 2005-07-07 at 17:14:16
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jul 7 2005, 03:08 PM)
He wasn't sitting on the toilet, he was sitting by the toilet. When I feel like crap i'm iritable and if you piss me off i'll freak out (doesn't matter how bad my body hurts) and I sometimes lash out in anger when i'm sick.
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If you lash out in anger when you're sick that could be one of two things: 1) It's just the way that you are, and has nothing to do with drugs. 2) (Not to sound like a dousche) it could be the pot, but it depends on if it happened before you started using.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-07 at 17:16:22
It has happened since I was little. Whenever I get sick I get iritable and pissed off. I was just saying that maybe it was a possibility that when he got sick from to much Nicotine, he woulda lashed out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zb2k on 2005-07-07 at 17:23:38
Hmm... ok but I don't think that particular point makes drugs bad(including nicotine). People feel like shit all the time, a hard day at work, bad news, a cold. So saying that a massive dose of nicotine makes you feel irratible
(and therefore could freak out and attack someone) doesn't mean that on that reason alone nicotine is bad, because, again, people feel like shit all the time.
(and therefore could freak out and attack someone) doesn't mean that on that reason alone nicotine is bad, because, again, people feel like shit all the time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-07 at 17:37:30
QUOTE(Zb2k @ Jul 6 2005, 07:24 PM)
Allergic to cigs? Never heard of that. And you CANNOT OD from nicotine. In other words, the only way nicotine can kill you is through long term effects like lung cancer.
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I would just like to point out that you can OD on Nicotine.
The reason you can't OD on Nicotine through ciggs is for the simple fact, there isn't enough Nicotine in it. If you find the Anarchist Cookbook and read on how to to concentrate Nicotine so it is deadly to the touch.
I don't remember how many Grams of Nicotine are in a cigg acording to what Moonmonkey said, so that is why you cannot OD on ciggs.
If you were a cig company, would you want to make your product deadly from the first puff? Or spread it out and make it hella addicting so you can get millions upon millions of dollars every day?
Honestly, I would do the second
Amd I have tried cigarettes once. And it was to try to get my first love back (Stupid little **tch **cking **nt!) And the buzz I think, is not even worth the five or ten seconds of "buzziness" that it caused.
I would rather smoke a bowl and be "buzzed" for hours, instead of seconds.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-08 at 20:17:02
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The reason she drank so much water is because Ecstsy (MDMA) dehidrates your body hardcore, so you always have to drink water to stay hydrated. I don't think you can die from "Water Poisoning". It must have been something in the pill because Ecstasy usually has a whole shit load of other stuff added into it. You usually can never get just pure MDMA.
And the reason I don't think she died from "Water Poisoning" is because all the water she should have drank would have been absorbed quickly after entering the body because of the MDMA."
When your on MDMA, you can't tell whether or not you need more water, you stay thirsty...you get to drinking water, and dont know when to stop, you are going to kill yourself with water.
"And the buzz I think, is not even worth the five or ten seconds of "buzziness" that it caused.
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The "buzz" you felt for the 10-20 seconds isn't actually the nicotine. Well, it partly is, but that's not the main effect of it. Nicotine causes your body to release a surge of sugar, and I'm not 100% sure on this, but also a large amount of endorphins.
The reason she drank so much water is because Ecstsy (MDMA) dehidrates your body hardcore, so you always have to drink water to stay hydrated. I don't think you can die from "Water Poisoning". It must have been something in the pill because Ecstasy usually has a whole shit load of other stuff added into it. You usually can never get just pure MDMA.
And the reason I don't think she died from "Water Poisoning" is because all the water she should have drank would have been absorbed quickly after entering the body because of the MDMA."
When your on MDMA, you can't tell whether or not you need more water, you stay thirsty...you get to drinking water, and dont know when to stop, you are going to kill yourself with water.
"And the buzz I think, is not even worth the five or ten seconds of "buzziness" that it caused.
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The "buzz" you felt for the 10-20 seconds isn't actually the nicotine. Well, it partly is, but that's not the main effect of it. Nicotine causes your body to release a surge of sugar, and I'm not 100% sure on this, but also a large amount of endorphins.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-08 at 20:54:23
Yea, one time I didn't have anything and I was bored so I power smoked 3 cigarettes at once and got a little buzzish high
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-08 at 23:33:41
QUOTE(Moonmonkey @ Jul 8 2005, 08:17 PM)
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The reason she drank so much water is because Ecstsy (MDMA) dehidrates your body hardcore, so you always have to drink water to stay hydrated. I don't think you can die from "Water Poisoning". It must have been something in the pill because Ecstasy usually has a whole shit load of other stuff added into it. You usually can never get just pure MDMA.
And the reason I don't think she died from "Water Poisoning" is because all the water she should have drank would have been absorbed quickly after entering the body because of the MDMA."
When your on MDMA, you can't tell whether or not you need more water, you stay thirsty...you get to drinking water, and dont know when to stop, you are going to kill yourself with water.
"And the buzz I think, is not even worth the five or ten seconds of "buzziness" that it caused.
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The "buzz" you felt for the 10-20 seconds isn't actually the nicotine. Well, it partly is, but that's not the main effect of it. Nicotine causes your body to release a surge of sugar, and I'm not 100% sure on this, but also a large amount of endorphins.
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The reason she drank so much water is because Ecstsy (MDMA) dehidrates your body hardcore, so you always have to drink water to stay hydrated. I don't think you can die from "Water Poisoning". It must have been something in the pill because Ecstasy usually has a whole shit load of other stuff added into it. You usually can never get just pure MDMA.
And the reason I don't think she died from "Water Poisoning" is because all the water she should have drank would have been absorbed quickly after entering the body because of the MDMA."
When your on MDMA, you can't tell whether or not you need more water, you stay thirsty...you get to drinking water, and dont know when to stop, you are going to kill yourself with water.
"And the buzz I think, is not even worth the five or ten seconds of "buzziness" that it caused.
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The "buzz" you felt for the 10-20 seconds isn't actually the nicotine. Well, it partly is, but that's not the main effect of it. Nicotine causes your body to release a surge of sugar, and I'm not 100% sure on this, but also a large amount of endorphins.
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You CAN die from drinking too much water.
http://chemistry.about.com/cs/5/f/blwaterintox.htm
It's basically all the water dilutes the sodium in your body.
I like to think of everything this way, "Too much of ANYTHING can kill you"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-07-08 at 23:37:23
Thanks, develisk. I should've thought of that. I was just trying to look up the article I saw in the paper. It wasn't important enough to put on the web apparently. oh well
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-09 at 00:11:56
I first heard of dying from drinking too much water on the news. This dude died from some sort of hazing where he had to drink gallons of water, and he died.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-09 at 02:11:14
I can see it now....
<guy> I'm sorry please untie me and let me go!!
<dude> Drink this water or I will kill you!
<guy> Is there poison in this?
<dude> No, it's regular water, drink it or I will kill you!!!
<guy> *gulp, gulp*
<dude> Keep drinking, I'll pull the trigger
<guy> I can't take it anymore! The water is diluting the sodium in the desalinization part of my endorphins!! *more technical bullshit*!!
<dude> Muahaha, keep drinking
<guy> *dies
<guy> I'm sorry please untie me and let me go!!
<dude> Drink this water or I will kill you!
<guy> Is there poison in this?
<dude> No, it's regular water, drink it or I will kill you!!!
<guy> *gulp, gulp*
<dude> Keep drinking, I'll pull the trigger
<guy> I can't take it anymore! The water is diluting the sodium in the desalinization part of my endorphins!! *more technical bullshit*!!
<dude> Muahaha, keep drinking
<guy> *dies
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ogloc(sc) on 2005-07-10 at 20:37:06
i can survive with marijuana god put it here for me and you
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-10 at 21:19:53
Yes.... Yes...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-11 at 23:16:59
lol, interesting little quote:
Man made beer, God made pot: Who do YOU trust?
Man made beer, God made pot: Who do YOU trust?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-11 at 23:38:10
God 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by brutetal on 2005-07-12 at 03:34:27
I think the most addicting drugs are alcohol, caffine, and sex! Their all legal as well!!!
The war on drugs? I haven't seen much effort on it. If we legallise weed and have like a 30% tax we would be out of debt in less then a day!
A messege to everyone!
"If you do drugs, you are a hippy! And Hippys suck!"
The war on drugs? I haven't seen much effort on it. If we legallise weed and have like a 30% tax we would be out of debt in less then a day!
A messege to everyone!
"If you do drugs, you are a hippy! And Hippys suck!"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-12 at 06:16:12
i aggre drugs are bad except if you need him.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wolf on 2005-07-12 at 07:01:33
well, i've heard man deaths, many stupid reason deasths from the drug ACID
i think that is one bad drug
i can not say, well actually weed is bad, weed get you to do things that you probably would never do, i have been high befor on weed and i did some crazy crap but i think those are bad, but the worst would have to be E or exstasy, i was doesed with that once(not my idea) and that stuff is crazier than weed O.O o man. Exstasy also destorys your long term memory. i regreat doing weed, and i am addicted to cigeretes which are also bad >.<
and for you people saying god made weed... Wrong, humans made weed
i think that is one bad drug
i can not say, well actually weed is bad, weed get you to do things that you probably would never do, i have been high befor on weed and i did some crazy crap but i think those are bad, but the worst would have to be E or exstasy, i was doesed with that once(not my idea) and that stuff is crazier than weed O.O o man. Exstasy also destorys your long term memory. i regreat doing weed, and i am addicted to cigeretes which are also bad >.<
and for you people saying god made weed... Wrong, humans made weed
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-12 at 10:12:32
QUOTE(Wolf @ Jul 12 2005, 04:01 AM)
and for you people saying god made weed... Wrong, humans made weed
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Can you prove that? I can prove, straight from the Hindu's, that god made weed.
Shiva. Do know who that is? Shiva is the god of gods in the Hindu Religion. He is also known as, Shiva, Lord of the Bhang (Bhang is another word for Marijuna. Just like Ganja, Pot, Weed, Dope, ect...)
So before you go and make false claims, know your history >.<
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-07-12 at 18:22:42
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and for you people saying god made weed... Wrong, humans made weed
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Err...you believe this why? If you were of an athiestic belief, such as I am, then I can see you not believe that God created marijuana...but then, you would believe that it evolved naturally...explain to me how humans created weed. Really. It wasn't a specially cultivated/genetically engineered plant, it occurs naturally.
However, I have yet to see a beer tree. (Other than commercials, that is.)
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well, i've heard man deaths, many stupid reason deasths from the drug ACID
i think that is one bad drug
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Indeed. If you don't take proper precautions. If you're taking acid, surely you've done research (if you haven't...you're an idiot) and know that it can lead you to do things, can distort your thinking to believe something that isn't true (such as, that busy highway isn't THAT busy) and thus, you should have someone to watch you while you're trippin.
Maybe a shady analogy, but going out and buying a gun with no experience whatsoever, and noone to tell you what you're doing, and trying to advanced manuevers with it. While it's loaded.
Analogy=Potentially very dangerous, but if you take the proper precautions, things should go okay. (But that's never guaranteed) Theres always a level of risk in taking any drug whatsoever...just like theres a risk associated with any everyday activity. Laying down too long can kill you.