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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 12:47:15
This is a totally OPINIONATED thread. So please. No bashing on people because of their opinion. Like with what i'm about to say:

Drugs I think, are bad. Except for a few (The ones I have done)

Everyone says that Marijuana is the "worst" drug out there. To me, that is bull shit. It is probibly the safest one out there. I believe that Methampetemine is the worst drug out there, even worse then Heroin!

I believe that Marijuna would do our country some good. If you think about it, this "War on Drugs" is waisting thousands, and hundreds of thousands of dollars, just to try to keep Marijuana off the street! It is good to keep all the other ones off the street (Except Mushrooms...... Those are fun happy.gif) but wasting so much money on Marijuana is just plain dumb. Scientists say it is worse then cigarettes, but only if you smoke them in the J form. If you was to smoke Marijuana out of a Bubbler, a Bong, or even a Hooka (oo those are fun too) it is way healthier than smoking a "Marijuana Cigarette". And the healthiest way to smoke Marijuana is through a "Vaporizer" (Burns your "Pot" and takes all the smoke away just leaving the THC [Delta-9 TetraHydroCanabinol] Thus, not creating any Carbon Monoxide [or was it Dioxide?])

So I believe that Marijuana is not as bad as the government says it is. If they were to legalize it, most the people would quit smoking.

But what about the people who smoke and drive you ask.

With my experiences (Many of them) being under the influence of Marijuana (if you are a smart pot-head [yeah, there are smart ones, and dumb ones]) won't affect the way you drive at all. Drinking and Driving is 200X worse then smoking and driving (trust me on this. My friends would D&D and they could stay on the road, but with the ocasional swerve off to the right, lol. Idiots)

So, if we were to get 10 pot-heads, and 10 Drunk Drivers and have them take a test, who do you think would win?

But Marijuana affects your senses!

Yeah it does, but you can still be alert and learn stuff (I went to school **cking high as a kite most my senior year, and passed with mostly A's-C's) So therefor, you can still drive like a normal human being, while being high as a kite.

Now, onto another drug I think (notice the bold...) isn't bad..... Mushrooms.

I first did Mushrooms in October of last year. There were seven of us (we were all frying our brains out, lol) and we all had a blast. The most memberable thing from that night was when I talked to the dog. Yes, I talked to the dog.

I was all like, "What's up Hank!? Man, you're the coolest dog ever, and I love you man!" (Hank is the dogs name) and then I got a little voice in my head that said, "**ck you!".

I was like, "WTF!? I tell you that I love you and that you're awesome, and you tell me to **ck off!?"

I then turned away from him.... Than what seemed to be ten minutes (more like five seconds) I turned around and apologized to him and told him that he was the shait again, and the same thing happend again!

Anyways, that happened about two more times, then he finally "said" that he loved me back. I then diverted my attetion somewhere else for what seemed to be only three seconds (Shrooms make your perception of "Time" go, WAZOOOOOOO) and then turned back to him to talk to him some more and... He was gone....

Anyways what i'm trying to get at is this: I believe that Mushrooms aren't all that bad. The only bad thing about them is if you go on a bad trip, you will literally freak out, and Mushrooms are a poison to the human body.

I will stop here now, cause I have to go get my dad something to eat. When I feel up to it (if I feel up to it) I will post my other opinions here later.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 13:18:57
i agree, weed isnt the worst drug out there, hell oxy cotten is worse. i also agree with what he said about leaglizing it. if we were to oput a tax on it like they do in smokes and beer, we would be out of debt so fast.....but thats just me
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-06-30 at 13:32:22
Okay, first of all, I think there are 4 extremely bad and dangerous drugs.

The first one I'll talk about is alcohol. Everyone drinks alcohol, it by far kills more people than any other drug. Drunk Driving in my opinion should have much harsher penalties with all the drunk driving homocides we have. In my opinion it is way worse than marijuana. It causes brain damage and you could die from overdose, or alcohol poisining. Being high on marijuana doesn't effect your vision as much as if you were drunk.

Secondly, I think cocaine (crack in particular) is one of the worst drugs to be addicted to. It is very easy to overdose on this, and many people think they're superman when on crack. Crack is a drug that has turned many people into something really bad. That's why we have crackwhore prostitutes in this world.

Next is 'mushrooms'. Mushrooms, much like LSD (which I'll talk about here in a sec) sends you tripping. Mushrooms don't give you quite the intense trip that LSD does, but you may experience much of the same stuff.

LSD in my opinion is the most dangerous drug a person can take. One ounce of LSD, or Acid can put over 1,000 people on a trip, that shows how little Acid is needed to send you trippin'. Acid will send you on such a violent trip that you may stare at a wall for 6 hours and not even know it, and when your senses return you think you have been to Africa, Europe, The Playboy Mansion, etc... You go on such intense trips because blood drips from the back of you brain/skull onto your spinal cord.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-30 at 13:40:32
What about Crystal Meth?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-06-30 at 13:42:13
Ecstasy. Don't have any real reasons, but the way it looks...mellow.gif
And, stories from the people that have done it, yeah. My friend John OD'd on coke, ex, acid...and was twitching.

Don't do drugs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-06-30 at 13:45:13
QUOTE(DevliN_ @ Jun 30 2005, 12:40 PM)
What about Crystal Meth?
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I've never done it, therefore I have no comment on it.

Ecstacy is just like a lot of pills. I'm not sure, but I think it's a depressant. They say it makes you horny as hell, but I'm not sure if I agree. (mabye it's just that I'm always horny as hell)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-06-30 at 13:49:51
I think drugs cost too much money... Money better spent on other things =/ ...by that I mean drugs you do for kicks.

ADDITION:
Except for coffee... god damn I love coffee... but I only drink it when I need to stay awake.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 13:51:53
QUOTE(DevliN_ @ Jun 30 2005, 10:40 AM)
What about Crystal Meth?
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That is the worst drug, and the most addictive

QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jun 30 2005, 10:45 AM)
I've never done it, therefore I have no comment on it.

Ecstacy is just like a lot of pills.  I'm not sure, but I think it's a depressant.  They say it makes you horny as hell, but I'm not sure if I agree. (mabye it's just that I'm always horny as hell)
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Ecstacy is an aphrodisiac (who knows how to spell that word) and makes you horney ass hell. But if you **ck on Ecstacy, there goes your sex life. Won't ever be the same.

Ecstacy has MDMA (a long ass word i'm not even going to try to pronounce) and usualy has other drugs mixed in with it (Meth, Coce, ect...)

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QUOTE(PsychoTemplar @ Jun 30 2005, 10:49 AM)
I think drugs cost too much money... Money better spent on other things =/ ...by that I mean drugs you do for kicks.

ADDITION:
Except for coffee... god damn I love coffee... but I only drink it when I need to stay awake.
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That is a drug too. Caffeine is the most addictive drug (besides Meth)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-06-30 at 13:52:06
QUOTE(PsychoTemplar @ Jun 30 2005, 12:47 PM)
I think drugs cost too much money... Money better spent on other things =/ ...by that I mean drugs you do for kicks.
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When you can spend your lunch money on Valiums instead? You can get yellow valiums $1 and the blue ones for $3. I usually get like $1 or $2 a day for lunch, so I prefer this over crappy school lunch.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-30 at 13:55:16
Ill be as generic as possible.

Medical drugs are good, Tobacco drugs aren't good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-06-30 at 13:58:02
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When you can spend your lunch money on Valiums instead? You can get yellow valiums $1 and the blue ones for $3. I usually get like $1 or $2 a day for lunch, so I prefer this over crappy school lunch.

I don't buy food from my school. I'm a bit of a health nut, but w/e.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 13:58:02
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 30 2005, 10:55 AM)
Ill be as generic as possible.

Medical drugs are good, Tobacco drugs aren't good.
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Yes! Someone agrees that Medical Marijuna is good! smile.gif

Heh, jk


I think it's good though smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-30 at 14:25:07
I hear once you try Crystal Meth once, you won't be able to stop for a long time. Sometimes you get a feeling that there's bugs everywhere, crawling on you and you try to pick them off, and you...um...basically skin yourself to death.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 14:26:29
QUOTE(DevliN_ @ Jun 30 2005, 11:25 AM)
I hear once you try Crystal Meth once, you won't be able to stop for a long time. Sometimes you get a feeling that there's bugs everywhere, crawling on you and you try to pick them off, and you...um...basically skin yourself to death.
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Crystal Meth IS MORE ADDICTING then Herion is, so I believe the first part. And I don't know about the second part, where you pic your skin off...... Maybe if you got a lousey batch of Meth, I could believe that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 15:36:07
i think that you all have thought WAY to hard on this subject. but then again, thats why we'er posting anit it? well, i dont know a hole lot about drugs, but i do know that i like weed and i love booze. thats all i know, but....you know.....im a good mormon kid lol
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-30 at 15:40:56
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jun 30 2005, 11:26 AM)
Crystal Meth IS MORE ADDICTING then Herion is, so I believe the first part.  And I don't know about the second part, where you pic your skin off......  Maybe if you got a lousey batch of Meth, I could believe that.
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I think it'd be more apporiate if you got a good patch. A lousy patch couldn't get you that tripped up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 15:44:06
QUOTE(DevliN_ @ Jun 30 2005, 12:40 PM)
I think it'd be more apporiate if you got a good patch. A lousy patch couldn't get you that tripped up.
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Hmmm.... Good point. I figured a bad batch would trip you out like that, but you're probibly right.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-06-30 at 17:24:22
If people were mature enough to use drugs I wouldn't have a problem with that.

Too bad no one is. mellow.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-30 at 19:57:47
Sorry, but I did read anything else, I just saw the sentence, "OPINIONATED" thread. Woah. You trying to imply that drugs could be 100% bad or good? Are you personally, TAKING DRUGS RIGHT NOW?

Not ALL drugs are bad. Some save lives.

EDIT: But I do agree with you on everything else you said kell. And I do see it becoming legal in the future, oh wait. Nevermind. We're not socialist, my bad. Huge Companies have a major effect on some of our laws. Oooops, honest mistake.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-06-30 at 20:01:29
The only illegal drug I consider to be safe and to have medical application is Marijuana, because it isn't very addictive. Hell, its safer and less addictive than tobacco, I hear.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 20:18:39
Well, i'm adicted to it (Mentally not Phsyically)

If I need to quit, I can (probation, job that UAs, ect...)

But when I don't need to, i'll still do it.

So yeah. It isn't as adictive as cigarettes, but it is still adictive.

Cause cigarettes cause a mental and physical, and weed only causes a mental (which isn't that hard to break if you have a good will)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ZPD on 2005-06-30 at 23:26:51
Anything that impairs your senses or causes unpredictable sporadic mental activity without huge medical benefits is something I do not agree with. Why would you watse time smoking grass and inhaling it into your lungs, to your bloodstream, and to your brain just so you can go nuts when it affects your brain chemistry and renders you incapable of intelligent action for six hours? Why eat poisonous plants that make you incapable of controlling yourself for an extended period of time. Why effectively kill your brain off slowly just so you can feel the side effects of confusion and hallucinations? Are you even aware of what you are doing to yourself when using most of these drugs? Most of them are ilegal for a reason, not so they can just screw with your joy rides. It can't be fun to be eating poisonous plants and then drive and hot someone because you were sure that you were piloting a plane through a magical rainbow, or got so high off your drug that you started to inject air into your bloodstream. If it messes with your brain, then my opoinion is that it is rather unsafe and should not be used in obscure ways to satisfy your need for hallucinations, detachments from reality, and realization that you are an orange and must peel your face to weat the succulent juices inside. Once drigs become addicting, they continue to wreak havoc on your brain more and more as you take more of the drug.

And yes, the government may be saying some drugs are more dangerous than they really are, but once you become addicted and take a large dose of that drug, you can do some pretty wacky things. Why would you want to surrender control of your body and mind and possibly do very dangerous things to yourself or others just so you can stare at random objects with incredible interest and see wonderful colors and talk to dogs as your brain gets slowly killed off. There is no way you can act mature while you are under the influence of mentally afflicting drugs. Marijuana affects your brain way more than tobacco cigarettes. I pity people who are so desperate to try new things and detach themselves from reality that they inhale burning grass and have fun as they kill themselves and hurt people without even being aware of it.

Using drugs to screw up your mind and talk to dogs seems completely irrational and stupid, how is this beneficial. Do you even care if you have a good life and the capabilities of finacnailly supporting yourself and your children? Do you even care that if will capable of intelligent thought for the next 50 years? Do you even care if you will live for the next 5 years at all?

I'm all for drugs that save lives and help people survive or retain mental stability, but marijuana is just a mild narcotic that ruins the chemical balance in your brain and the ability to comprehend simple thoughts and sounds.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-01 at 00:23:17
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Jun 30 2005, 07:01 PM)
The only illegal drug I consider to be safe and to have medical application is Marijuana, because it isn't very addictive. Hell, its safer and less addictive than tobacco, I hear.
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What about morphine and steroids. Both of those are illegal drugs that have been used for many medicinal purposes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by des on 2005-07-01 at 02:29:05
I figure as long as you know what you're doing, and are willing to face any shit you put yourself in, do what you want. I don't care if people do drugs, I just have a problem with people who censored.gif themselves up and then make themselves out to be victims. If you OD on drugs because you don't know what you're doing, it's your own damn fault and you get no tears from me. It's not that hard to get educated and be smart about what you're doing.

That being said, I'd only use weed/shrooms personally.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-01 at 09:45:59
QUOTE(ZPD @ Jun 30 2005, 08:26 PM)
Anything that impairs your senses or causes unpredictable sporadic mental activity without huge medical benefits is something I do not agree with.  Why would you watse time smoking grass and inhaling it into your lungs, to your bloodstream, and to your brain just so you can go nuts when it affects your brain chemistry and renders you incapable of intelligent action for six hours?
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Where did you get your information? When you smoke "grass" (Delta9-TetraHydroCannabinol [Delta is the little Triangle that you learn in Science Class]) as you put it, doesn't render you incapable of having any intelligent action for six hours (with crappy "grass" your high is a maximum of four hours, and with good "grass" it lasts anywhere from five to twelve, depending on the potancy of the THC [Hash gets you really messed up]) and doesn't make your brain go nuts. You wanna know what it does to your brain? It coats it with a liquid that "impares" (why do they say that weed impares you?) your brain. Yeah, it can and sort of does mess with the chemicals, but it has been proven, scientifically, that if you stop screwing with your brain, it will eventually mellow out, and go back to it's normal "routene"

And may I ask you this. Do you even know what "grass" does to you when you smoke it? So before you say it makes you go nuts, why don't you do your homework?

And I agree with you. Why would people ingest "poisonous plants" (Psylo Psybin if you want to get technical) into their body? Why don't we ask the ancient Aztecs of Mexico. Or how about the Mayans of South America? Maybe even the Egyptians? (Not exactly sure about them, but I heard that they did ingest mushrooms, or some other kind of hallucinogenic)

Just because I talked to a dog while I was Mushrooms doesn't mean shit. With hallucinogenics, everyone has a different trip. Not everyone talks to dogs while on them. My friend vigerously cleaned his house. Is that a problem? I had most of it clean in about 2½ hours (and it is a two-story house)

And why would people ingest powerful hallucinogens you ask? Well, most people who take LSD (Lysergic-Acid Diethylmide if you want to get technical wink.gif), report that they have an inner "enlightenment" They have "an experience with 'god'" And they have "religious experiences"

Why would Native Americans smoke Peyote? I dunno, why don't you go ask one? I know that Peyote is part of most South Western Native American traditions.

So are you calling them dumb?

So before you bash on people who do drugs, why don't you get to know them before you do so? And why don't you actually research them before you bash on them? (You didn't even know the scientific names for them so how could you have a logical arguemen about them if you don't know very much about them?) I'm not a bad person, but in your eyes I am, just because I have drugs. If you ask the people who know me on this forum (Rexy, Timmy, Clokr, Wes [I dunno if Mr. Pimp knows me that well though] Kooshtwo, Heimdal, Revelade, and Moogle) they will tell you that i'm a very good person, but have some problems (Everyone has problems though)

So what i'm trying to get at is this:

Please try to do your homework before you diss on drugs, and get to know the people you diss on, before you do.

Oh and also, learn to use propper English and Grammer to, it helps wink.gif

Thank you.







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