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Maybe you guys are just seeing something that's not really there?
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About the conspiricy...  If you have noticed, our nation is full of idiots...

If you notice, the planes explode...  So how could they "break" into the building...?

I agree...  But windows do not hold up a building...  The frame does...

Most documenteries kinda falsify the info a bit...

Any more questions...  I'll try to answer you...

But i'm just a pathetic loser that "hates" my country because I dispise the polititians that run it...

Oh, you can't forget...  I'm an idiot, too...
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It's good to think like this. It is good to question the government. But you're giving them too much credit. And I know it's really fun to think about conspiracies like this. Assuming you were like me:

Is the conspiracy they provide you not good enough? "Religious fanatics plan to attack america by crashing air planes into buildings." Is that not complicated enough for you? Do you need the conspiracy to be ultra complex? They're trying to trick the average voter, not the people who think. The people who like to think are only about 10% of the population. (Hopefully 10%)

Seriously, think. If the government DID want to stage an attack, wouldn't they do it some where else? Like at a football game or something, instead of the twin towers? Bush just kinda got lucky in an unlucky kinda way. He got to go do what his father got to do; Attack Iraq. I mean, if I was president, and I wanted to go after some country, I would go destroy a stupid national monument or sink some ship or something. Just something that would not hurt our economy. Cause I, like every other single person in politics, would be greedy. Last thing I want to do is make me or my friends lose money.

If this was all a big conspiracy, I take my hat off to the government. They are masters of what they do. And that is to trick people.

But they're major goal is to not just trick people. It's to trick STUPID people. Cause stupid people have more voting power than smart people, it's as simple as that. That's why they don't have to think too much out side of the box when they're doing stuff. Again, you're giving them too much credit.
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i can't believe theres people who are so blind as you are. I'm trying very hard not to flame you right now for saying i stooped low. It has nothing to do with me not liking bush so stfu and drink bleach. Because you can't see whats really happenig out there you go as far to blindly say he's right.

Listen, I know a few people who went to iraq and they clearly said that the people alot of the people don't want us there. Its an islamic country, in Islam women do not have equal rights as a democracy would give. So why force it on them? We are there for what reasons? To oust a man we put in power? To stop him from using his "wmd's"? Oh wait thats right, they LIED to us about that. There were none. So now we are fighting double wars over NOTHING. We should not of even been there, just like vietnam. Its not our fight. Notice clinton didn't invade, but wait while both Bush's are in power we invade.
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I already proved no lies were told.  Its not blindly following anything, its called common sense. 

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already proved no lies were told. Its not blindly following anything, its called common sense.

Oh commen Sense eh? So your a Scientific? Unless your a scientific, it is not *Common* Sense. You have no idea, I'm not a scientific either. But then again, its not *Common* Sense. Its something that has to be researched by real scientists and evidence has to be proven. Wouldn't you feel really bad if Bush had really done this? Right now, People are researching about this. I see no bad in In Researching about this and finding evidence etc. Because, May be the White house set this up, maybe not. But its always best to do the research and figure out at the end. If he didn't, then so be it. If he did, I'm pretty sure we would all like to know.
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Im talking REAL common sense, such as you wouldn't jump off a cliff becuase you know you would die, If your playing a football game and have had no succuss running the ball against the defence, then common sense would tell you to start passing it, etc...

plus there can be really no HARD evidence to go either way becuase all we have is video, and half the video are terrible quality.

If explosives were used, there would have been little if any evidence of them left.
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Actually Not really, If Explosives were used, there would have been MUCH evidence. Scientists could have discovered it was explosives due to the dmg dealt to the Steel. If scientists would have had samples of the event, We would've been able to identify. The problem here is, Incase you didn't know, The government extracted all the steel and destroyed it and anything else that could indicate some sort of explosion. They basicly destroyed the evidence. Thats something that trully happened. The Government destroyed the evidence basicly. So yes, we don't really have solid proof. But theres still other ways to proove it.
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The link doesn't work?

http://essay.theboywhocriediraq.com/
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Okay deciding whether or not it's possible WTC collapsed due to the airplanes isn't really the main issue. Currently I'm leaning towards it being a terrorist attack. Why? Because it makes more sense. I want to believe that the government isn't corrupt enough to create such a conspiracy and to kill thousands of Americans on purpose.

Evidence suggests that it could happen either way, but I don't think that 9/11 was created by the government, because it doesn't make much sense for them to do it just to start a war on terrorism. What do we have to gain? I think we've lost more than we've gained from 9/11, and if it was done by the government then it's even worse.

If it's true, and what they did is so bad, why isn't news of it more widespread? Why haven't I seen clear evidence.

I think you can come up with a conspiracy for every war and decision our government has made.
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No, I'm saying you are looking at the evidence and all the stuff that happened on 9/11 and interpreting it and making it look like something it really isn't.
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No, I'm saying you are looking at the evidence and all the stuff that happened on 9/11 and interpreting it and making it look like something it really isn't.
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I know this is a bit late but I have one word for you.

Money.

Okay, another word, too.

Oil.

Okay, I have a sentance for you:

They created this conspiracy to have a purpose to go to Iraq and take Saddam out, and gain the Oil trade there, all for MONEY.

So yes.

Money. That is all it is about.

I'm sure messing up our economy was worth it  I think if the government was going to try to create an enemy, they would find a better and cheaper way to do it.

Heho, What a nice argument you have there. Your are just so smart, I think you win there!

The local, sovereign military force is either defeated (i.e. Yugoslavia) or, as in the case of the United States itself, replaced by foreign UN "Partnership For Peace" (PFP) troops who take over the jobs of  US soldiers who have been sent overseas on  'peacekeeping' missions. In addition to being killed in ground conflicts on foreign soil, US military forces will likely be reduced in the next few years through disease induced attrition (i.e. from mandatory Anthrax Vaccinations required of all US military personnel). These vaccinations will, in all probability, eventually produce the symptoms of the so-called Gulf War Illness, which was acquired by a certain percentage of Gulf War soldiers who were given a "special" anthrax vaccine (intended by the Illuminati/CIA as a test run to ascertain how quickly (and fatally) the disease would progress with a substantial population of healthy young men and women).

Open-mindedness has nothing to do with this.
I'll respond to that with this:
Also, just because we have something to gain from going to war, doesn't mean we created the enemy.
Ya, I do win, so therefore this argument is done
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Open-mindedness has EVERYTHING to do with this -_- Because if you're not open-minded you won't take into consideration that it is possible that they set it up.

I never said we created the enemy, where do you come up with that?

And how do you win? You have not shown proof that our conspiricy is false.

... continuing to be Openminded is just not being judgemental. I have been openminded and considered the possibility, but then I have to form my own opinion about this whole thing.

... without creating an enemy we wouldn't be at war, where have you been? Even if you think 9/11 was by the government that was a way to create an enemy.

I win because Aikanaro said I win, so I win, try reading the posts people make.
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Oh, The sarcasm as its best. I hope your joking about the winning as was I. But heh, Whats your opinion on this whole thing? So far, well from what I've been reading,You've been nothing but naming our info either False, or thoerized. You don't really have any base at the moment. But, This is a debate so feel free to form your opinion any time.
Open-Minded? What a joke. Open-minded is to take a look at the info without having the thought that its impossible that the government would do such a thing. *Its been done in the past*. I wouldn't be that surprised if this was also the same case.

I mean, Cmon..Were reaching the Oil Peak. And so suddenly, The united states targets Iraq, which is filled with oil. How come out of all the countries, the United states chose Iraq? The inital excuse is that they could have had Chemical weapons. But so do many other countries. And hey, to remind you all, the United States is the country with the most nuclear Warheads and has chemical weapons. Why should the United States have the right to tell other countries to not have any if they have more than anyone else?? And, they are the ones most likely to make a war upon a country.
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cause we are smart enough not to use them or sell them to terrorists.