Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-08-24 at 21:55:43
I just stuck that in there because there are so many veggitarians out there. 
How on Earth can you not like a nice big fatless steak smuthered in A1?
Golden Coral, here I come!
How on Earth can you not like a nice big fatless steak smuthered in A1?
Golden Coral, here I come!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-25 at 00:57:23
Why does no one ever pay attention to what i say?
Hearing is the EXACT same a touch.
Smell is the EXACT same as taste,
the sense of balance is just feeling where liquids are in tubes in your head.
breathing is just an easy form of energy for the body.
Our taste is dictated by our genetics among other things. it USED to be that healthy things were tasty and unhealthy things less so, but think how good McDonalds tastes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-08-25 at 02:19:21
QUOTE(Zb2k @ Aug 24 2005, 01:28 PM)
Shapechanger I think you forgot about the number one goal in life that everyone tries to accomplish. Having fun. Everything that we want to do is fun, or it will benefit us somehow in the future and we will be able to have fun or feel good.
And I don't see why taste is useless, it feels nice to eat food that tastes good.
Also, I would say that sight is the most important sense, it is best at determining the world around us. Feel helps with that but not nearly as much as sight.
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And I don't see why taste is useless, it feels nice to eat food that tastes good.
Also, I would say that sight is the most important sense, it is best at determining the world around us. Feel helps with that but not nearly as much as sight.
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demarius, you could say that all he sense are the same becuase eventually they all come down to senidng electrcul signals to our brain for it to interprit what we sense.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-08-25 at 02:54:03
they are interpreted the same at a base level, true, but what i'm saying is different.
Taste/smell = chemical input
touch/balance = sensing kinetic/heat energy
sight = interpreting photons.
See?
Also if you want to be REALLY specific, everything is exactly the same on a base level. i.e. quarks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-08-25 at 03:30:47
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Also if you want to be REALLY specific, everything is exactly the same on a base level. i.e. quarks.
Lol. You could be arguing about anything then
If you wanted to describe each sense scientifically then yes, you are right Demaris. But, to loose your sense of tast wont affect your sense of smell. It would vise-versa... but thats not the point
Each sense is basically its own. To be blind is much different than to be deaf. To be a quad is much different than to not be able to smell and taste.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zb2k on 2005-08-25 at 14:56:19
Demaris, I don't understand your reasoning behind all senses being identical, but I understand you can see a plane flying at 40,000 ft when you're on the ground, but you sure as hell can't taste it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2005-08-25 at 17:43:35
QUOTE(Demaris @ Aug 25 2005, 12:57 AM)
Why does no one ever pay attention to what i say?
Hearing is the EXACT same a touch.
Smell is the EXACT same as taste,
the sense of balance is just feeling where liquids are in tubes in your head.
breathing is just an easy form of energy for the body.
Our taste is dictated by our genetics among other things. it USED to be that healthy things were tasty and unhealthy things less so, but think how good McDonalds tastes.
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Wow, I can think of a couple things wrong with that post. But since people have already told you that the senses are different (although the type of message sent to your brain in each one is similar) I will do another. Breathing gives you 0 energy, if you sat there and took a breath you would not gain any energy but you might feel as if you have. This is because the oxygen from the air is taken into your blood and delivered to your cells who use the oxygen to burn carbs which gives that cell energy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-08-25 at 19:58:50
How off topic are we gonna get lol?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-08-25 at 20:06:06
We're StarEdit Network what do you expect. lol
We're nothing but a whole bunch of kids that act like kindergardeners.
We're nothing but a whole bunch of kids that act like kindergardeners.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-08-25 at 20:12:18
true dat millenium
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-25 at 21:35:46
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true dat millenium
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I second that, never expect much from the SEN community in terms of serious discussions and logical arguments.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vibrator on 2005-08-25 at 22:57:19
Especially when ur talking to deviesk >_> lol jk (but its kinda true 
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(but its kinda true )Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-08-25 at 23:03:09
well, i expect it, just people dont often live up to my expectations.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-26 at 12:39:44
QUOTE(Rhiom @ Aug 25 2005, 11:03 PM)
well, i expect it, just people dont often live up to my expectations.
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That's why you lower your expectations.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hofodomo on 2005-08-26 at 13:06:48
Like Pamela Anderson said blones should do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-08-26 at 14:43:18
i dont lower my expecations, i just keep hoping and keep getting disappointed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by jukuren on 2005-08-30 at 02:12:28
You all notice that, we will never be told "What happens in "death" " Or..Rather "What is it like to be dead?" Since, well, clearly seen...No 'dead' corpse can revive itself and tell us a 2 hour long recount of his experience in 'death'. Whatever research man has tried against this 'terror', who has succeeded? Tell me somebody, who has the answers? Nobody.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-30 at 13:14:08
QUOTE(jukuren @ Aug 30 2005, 02:12 AM)
You all notice that, we will never be told "What happens in "death" " Or..Rather "What is it like to be dead?" Since, well, clearly seen...No 'dead' corpse can revive itself and tell us a 2 hour long recount of his experience in 'death'. Whatever research man has tried against this 'terror', who has succeeded? Tell me somebody, who has the answers? Nobody.
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Ya, that's like what I was saying earlier:
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When you die you won't even know that you died because you're dead. You shouldn't care if you die, because you really wouldn't know it, because you are dead. Therefore you shouldn't fear death.
You can't know you are dead because you are dead. Heh you might be dying and know that, but you won't know when you are "dead".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-09-01 at 18:37:07
True, noone knows what death is like, but some people think the visions the near-death survivors saw closely resemble to what we might see if we die.
Those people say that they saw themselves (their spirit) go through a series of tunnels or something and at the very end, they see a bright light at the end. Before they reach the bright light, they wake up and survive.
And scientists say that the bright light you see at the end is one of those brain cells which spark alot. I 4got most of the details but it was something like that. I remember seeing it on Discovery channel or something
Those people say that they saw themselves (their spirit) go through a series of tunnels or something and at the very end, they see a bright light at the end. Before they reach the bright light, they wake up and survive.
And scientists say that the bright light you see at the end is one of those brain cells which spark alot. I 4got most of the details but it was something like that. I remember seeing it on Discovery channel or something
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-09-05 at 13:11:52
wow this some strong stuff and verycrazy stuff...i dont want to think about very much but gj on your theories they are very good
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-09-05 at 14:34:23
QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Sep 1 2005, 06:37 PM)
True, noone knows what death is like, but some people think the visions the near-death survivors saw closely resemble to what we might see if we die.
Those people say that they saw themselves (their spirit) go through a series of tunnels or something and at the very end, they see a bright light at the end. Before they reach the bright light, they wake up and survive.
And scientists say that the bright light you see at the end is one of those brain cells which spark alot. I 4got most of the details but it was something like that. I remember seeing it on Discovery channel or something
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Those people say that they saw themselves (their spirit) go through a series of tunnels or something and at the very end, they see a bright light at the end. Before they reach the bright light, they wake up and survive.
And scientists say that the bright light you see at the end is one of those brain cells which spark alot. I 4got most of the details but it was something like that. I remember seeing it on Discovery channel or something
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I don't think the visions you see after you die would be any more impossible than how you can have hallucinations from other drugs. It all has to do with the brain.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zb2k on 2005-09-08 at 19:07:22
QUOTE(MiLlEnNiUmArMy @ Sep 1 2005, 04:37 PM)
True, noone knows what death is like, but some people think the visions the near-death survivors saw closely resemble to what we might see if we die.
Those people say that they saw themselves (their spirit) go through a series of tunnels or something and at the very end, they see a bright light at the end. Before they reach the bright light, they wake up and survive.
And scientists say that the bright light you see at the end is one of those brain cells which spark alot. I 4got most of the details but it was something like that. I remember seeing it on Discovery channel or something
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Those people say that they saw themselves (their spirit) go through a series of tunnels or something and at the very end, they see a bright light at the end. Before they reach the bright light, they wake up and survive.
And scientists say that the bright light you see at the end is one of those brain cells which spark alot. I 4got most of the details but it was something like that. I remember seeing it on Discovery channel or something
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If anyone watches Penn & Teller BS you'll know they proved why that happened. A bunch of people involved in car accidents said they saw a tunnel and at the end there was a light. Then they took a few people and put them in those pods where you get spun around a room very very fast, and they let them stay in the pod until they passed out, and all three of them said they saw the same vision. So when someone claims to see that "tunnel and light" it's actually just a reaction when someone moves at very fast speeds, it has nothing to do with Heaven or entering some kind of after life enviroment.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-09-08 at 19:35:24
My take on it:
When you die, there is nothing. Zero. Null. Its like a dreamless, endless sleep.
As RexyRex says, Santa Claus=God. Heaven and Hell are bullblam.
Souls and reincarnation vs. Null. It all comes down to Occam's Razor.
For souls and reincarnation to exist, you would have to suppose hidden energies and fields exist, and some other weird things, since we cannot detect souls, when in the body or in transit.
The Null idea is logical. Perception comes from the brain. When someone dies, their brain dies. Therefore, they do not perceive. It is the simplest and most logical arguement, therefore, by Occam's Razor, it wins.
When you die, there is nothing. Zero. Null. Its like a dreamless, endless sleep.
As RexyRex says, Santa Claus=God. Heaven and Hell are bullblam.
Souls and reincarnation vs. Null. It all comes down to Occam's Razor.
For souls and reincarnation to exist, you would have to suppose hidden energies and fields exist, and some other weird things, since we cannot detect souls, when in the body or in transit.
The Null idea is logical. Perception comes from the brain. When someone dies, their brain dies. Therefore, they do not perceive. It is the simplest and most logical arguement, therefore, by Occam's Razor, it wins.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-08 at 19:41:39
Occam's razor is not always true.
Just because we can't detect something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Only recently did we discover things like quarks and gamma rays.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-09-08 at 19:46:40
But at this time, its ridiculous to suppose things exist for no reason, without experimental proof or mathematical proof. Its not even logical to suggest souls exist and reincarnation occurs.