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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-04 at 15:02:26
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Our admin now feels it necessary to spend time on checking for people like him.

And if they don't, what's the point of the beloved rule that DEAD broke? If they don't check, why is there a rule against it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-11-04 at 15:07:40
As for respect:

Like has been said before, DEAD hasn't changed. He's still the same person he was before. I respect him just as much as always.

Sexypinkprincess is an excellent melee-map maker and also a pretty good melee player. I respect him as well.

Everyone else here I'm pretty much neutral to, with the exception of shocko, who I have little to no respect for, but that's beside the point.

As for what's happened:

Who gives a crap? He broke a rule, he was punished, life goes on. Get over it.

That's my opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2006-11-04 at 15:08:11
...because they don't want people to do it? You don't murder people because you know it's wrong, not because there's a law against it. You shouldn't speed just because there's no cops nearby, it's still just as dangerous. They don't want you making extra accounts because they consider it harmful to SEN (whether you agree or not, is irrelevent).

Enforcment of a rule has nothing to do with why the rule exists.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mockdead on 2006-11-04 at 15:08:12
QUOTE(Jamatul_101 @ Nov 4 2006, 03:56 PM)
DEAD is not a criminal. In other words, he shot with a paint ball at the president, not harming him.
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But then that means he's a terrorist and should be punished.

If you're going to use that analogy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-11-04 at 15:09:19
I've always thought DEAD of as that phsycho next door. All of his talk about 'armies' and 'terrorists' became quite vexatious.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?act=Sear...hlite=terrorist
(There is ~20 more that you can't see from the Staff forum, and a bunch more were deleted.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-11-04 at 15:10:00
QUOTE(mockdead @ Nov 4 2006, 03:08 PM)
But then that means he's a terrorist and should be punished.

If you're going to use that analogy.
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Damn terrorist cockaroaches! Protect the SEN Trade Centers!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2006-11-04 at 15:11:10
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In other words, he shot with a paint ball at the president, not harming him.

That's actually still a crime. Unless the president agreed to play paintball, it's somewhere along the lines of harrassment and physical assault.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-04 at 15:11:20
QUOTE(SexyPinkPrincess @ Nov 4 2006, 01:08 PM)
They don't want you making extra accounts because they consider it harmful to SEN (whether you agree or not, is irrelevent).
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And my point is then why that rule exists. Aside from rigging polls and gaining useless minerals, how are multiple accounts harmful to SEN?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mockdead on 2006-11-04 at 15:12:45
QUOTE(DevliN @ Nov 4 2006, 04:11 PM)
And my point is then why that rule exists. Aside from rigging polls and gaining useless minerals, how are multiple accounts harmful to SEN?
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They take up database space, and make everything load slower?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2006-11-04 at 15:14:44
It's harmful to the community if everyone is completly anonymous. If people don't recognize you, the community loses stability. Rigging polls means you're disrespecting the creater of the poll, and wasting his or her time.

Flaming isn't exactly harmful to SEN either, but it still is hurtful to other members' experiences.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-04 at 15:14:58
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They take up database space, and make everything load slower?

True, but so do a bunch of accounts that haven't been used in over a year. Those could be deleted, too.

I see the only harmful reason for multiple accounts being the idea that you can spam like crazy with a bunch of accounts. But there's a rule against spamming (that isn't always effectively enforces) that should take care of that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-11-04 at 15:15:06
QUOTE(mockdead @ Nov 4 2006, 04:12 PM)
They take up database space, and make everything load slower?
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Hardly. A few accounts will do pretty well nothing seeing as we have a few thousand inactive accounts anyway.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-04 at 15:17:24
QUOTE(SexyPinkPrincess @ Nov 4 2006, 01:14 PM)
It's harmful to the community if everyone is completly anonymous. If people don't recognize you, the community loses stability. Rigging polls means you're disrespecting the creater of the poll, and wasting his or her time.

And what if you believe polls are already a waste of time? tongue.gif

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Flaming isn't exactly harmful to SEN either, but it still is hurtful to other members' experiences.
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Good one. I like that point.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mockdead on 2006-11-04 at 15:17:26
QUOTE(Killer_Kow(MM) @ Nov 4 2006, 04:15 PM)
Hardly. A few accounts will do pretty well nothing seeing as we have a few thousand inactive accounts anyway.
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Actually, 5000+ inactive accounts clutters the database, and causes lag. Sorry buddy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-04 at 15:19:21
QUOTE(mockdead @ Nov 4 2006, 01:17 PM)
Actually, 5000+ inactive accounts clutters the database, and causes lag.  Sorry buddy
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Exactly. I'd worry more about deleting all the inactive accounts than multiple accounts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-11-04 at 15:20:01
I don't see what all the fuss is about. DEAD broke the rules by having multiple accounts.
He also used them in a malicious manner once. He has to be punished.

I do, however, think that his punishment is quite harsh, given the lack of damage caused and his presumably harmless intentions. DEAD has, in my opinion, improved a lot since the Kellimus days.

Edit: If the outcome of the OSMap poll was affected by his rigging then perhaps the level of punishment is appropriate.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2006-11-04 at 15:20:59
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And what if you believe polls are already a waste of time?

What if the OSMap vs NoOSMap poll was rigged? It's not a waste of time to the creater, and his or her decision to make one should be respected.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-11-04 at 15:23:09
FYI, that was one of the few polls that were very likely to affect my decision.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-04 at 15:23:24
QUOTE(SexyPinkPrincess @ Nov 4 2006, 01:20 PM)
What if the OSMap vs NoOSMap poll was rigged? It's not a waste of time to the creater, and his or her decision to make one should be respected.
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Well on that poll I do seem to remember a disclaimed that said the decision of the poll may or may not directly affect the decision of the administration. I rarely take polls seriously.

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Note that this poll is not binding in any way; we can make our policy independent of this poll if we so choose.

Is what I meant.

EDIT:
I stand corrected.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Killer_Kow(MM) on 2006-11-04 at 15:24:17
QUOTE(DevliN @ Nov 4 2006, 04:19 PM)
Exactly. I'd worry more about deleting all the inactive accounts than multiple accounts.
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Which was my point.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mockdead on 2006-11-04 at 15:26:04
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Nov 4 2006, 04:20 PM)
I don't see what all the fuss is about. DEAD broke the rules by having multiple accounts.
He also used them in a malicious manner once. He has to be punished.

I do, however, think that his punishment is quite harsh, given the lack of damage caused and his presumably harmless intentions. DEAD has, in my opinion, improved a lot since the Kellimus days.

Edit: If the outcome of the OSMap poll was affected by his rigging then perhaps the level of punishment is appropriate.
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And what does that mean?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-04 at 15:26:46
And mine...
QUOTE(DevliN @ Nov 4 2006, 01:14 PM)
True, but so do a bunch of accounts that haven't been used in over a year. Those could be deleted, too.
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Silly Killer_Kow. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-11-04 at 15:27:52
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Nov 4 2006, 03:20 PM)
I do, however, think that his punishment is quite harsh, given the lack of damage caused and his presumably harmless intentions. DEAD has, in my opinion, improved a lot since the Kellimus days.
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The Kellimus days?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2006-11-04 at 15:28:47
Yeah that confuses me, too. Are you saying that DEAD is more mature than he was then, and using the Kellimus incident as a time reference?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mockdead on 2006-11-04 at 15:30:46
If I were this "Kellimus" person, I would be offended by that comment because it makes it seem like he was all bad and such..

Who is Kellimus anyways?
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