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Lol? If the animals are going to DIE anyway, and decompose and be used for other living things to use as FOOD, why can't we.

PLANTS>herbivores>carnivores--->poop makes more plants which starts the cyclo over again. AYAY poop is good for something besides flies

The plants don't kill the animals, and nobody said you can't. I said you shouldn't.



I dunno about you but I don't go around ing in crop fields.



I'd love to see you running around crop fields eating dead snakes and rabbits.

Using actual poop for fertilizer is bad because of E.coli


Don't impose your beliefs on someone else just because you think animals shouldn't be eaten. That's what I hate about vegetarians. Especially since they barely have any reasons not to eat animals. I don't mind vegetarians being vegetarians just because they choose to be, but the reasons like animals shouldn't killed for food is just bull and vegetarians shouldn't preach vegetarianism. People who eat meat don't go preaching hey eat meat!

How is it bull ? Its a living thing, don't kill it, just because its a different species doesn't mean it isn't a thinking, breathing, organism.

If we left animals in the wild, they'll eat it other alive (literally).

Do you feel guilty when you get over a bacterial infection?

Parth, I'm tired of it. We kill animals for food, yet animals are still killed for making veggies for--you guessed it--people like you. The farmers intentionally hunt down and kill vermin so YOUR veggies can make it to your market basket or whatever. So guess what: Your argument is STUPID. You tell us we kill live animals and eat them, when in fact, you are also killing live animals--but not eating them!

I don't consider pests and roaches as vermin, and if you mean rabbits and snakes, then no they don't go HUNTING them, try reading the above posts.

So sorry, they don't hunt them, they shoot them from their barn windows.

Mhmm, all farmers are like idiots on counterstrike. They sit in their window looking for things to shoot. Of course its completely okay if you're going to shoot it then eat it, I mean you're EATING it, when there's hundreds of non-living things to eat. Nothing wrong with killing a living thing for food, nothing wrong with cannibalism either! [/sarcasm]

Yes, I totally agree with you. Plants and animals are living things. We kill them and eat them. That is totally okay.

Wow, comparing cannibalism and eating animals because you can't muster up a reaction of disgust at eating meat, so you compare it with a social taboo. Brilliant. You forget the fact that the combines which harvest your crops rip apart animals in the fields, insecticides are used, and animals that are eating your crops aren't often rereleased elsewhere, instead they are shot.

Wilhelm, thank you for summarizing everything I have said in one easy-to-read paragraph. Maybe he'll actually read it and admit defeat!

What's going to happen if I don't eat meat, and let animals live? It will make me feel better inside because I'm not killing a living, breathing, thinking animal? It will help me sleep better because I've let something live? That's bull , if something dies it dies, death is part of nature, and if it's being used for food then it justifies it even more. Just because it's living doesn't mean you can't kill it. You don't get an award for killing animals, and you won't get punished for eating one either.

I'm saying, go ahead not eating meat, but don't tell me that eating meat is WRONG.


Did you read my argument about why it's better to intentionally kill an animal for food rather than unintentionally kill them for no reason?

BTW: Those same animals you don't want to eat would probably eat you if they had the chance and if they were big enough to kill you, and hungry enough.

meat is good...*drools* mmmmmmmmmmmm.. meat...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAH...vegetarian...AHAHHAHHAAHAHAHA

People feel the same way about other products. "Well, since they're already produced, I might as well use them up anyway, otherwise somebody else will." This is not the right attitude, because lack of demand will decrease manufacturing.

Personally I'm not vegeterian but I don't eat meat much anyway because steak always looks burnt, bacon is soaked in disgustingly large amounts of fat, and chicken... well, I eat chicken.

Please don't make posts like this. It does not contribute to the conversation at hand in any logical way Thank you!

Parth, do you consider killing insects wrong too? Why don't you go try and save the billions of insects on the world being threatened? Hell, I've bet you've stepped on an ant and felt no remorse. Ironic really.

Plants don't think and feel. A plant won't try to run away from me if I pick its berries...even if it could.


Why not compare them? You contain meat, so if I ate you, it would be totally humane because it was for food right? It should make it especially humane since I could have just picked some apples from a tree.


Thats not the only reason, meat causes heart disease and impotence if you didn't know. I hope you're living happily when you're 65


Of course death is part of nature, but then cutting some"thing" with a sharpened metal knife isn't.

Well, then you're saying that just because humans live and breathe and think then its okay to kill them too, because just because its alive doesn't mean you can't kill it right?

And in my religon, I WILL be punished for eating one.


Not alive, a wolf will hold its preys neck for 20-30 seconds to make sure its dead.
Bacteria doesn't think, bacteria doesn't feel fear when antibodies are kicking its .


Have you been reading...anything...at all?


I don't purposely kill insects...unless I have to. I respect most life. How are insects being threatened? I don't see the irony

Why would you kill insects? They have feelings. Don't you want them to be happy?

I said I don't, unless I have to. If I see a spider on my leg, and I don't know what kind of spider it is (I know a lot about spiders), I'll knock it off, not kill it. If I just see a spider walking around in my bathroom, I'm not gonna kill it. I don't go around stepping on ants, maybe if I'm not looking down.

Oh, well thats fine and dandy. I'd KILL that spider to DEATH because I've bitten by too many goddamn spiders and had too many damn bad experiences. Like one, I was going downstairs and I walked under the ceiling fan, and a spider drop onto my head!

Also, comparing cannibalism to meat-eating? They are quite different. You are more likely to get diseases by eating members of the same species then you are eating animals of other species. So, a person wouldn't eat another person unless it was a life-or-death situation. Even then they might not because cannibalism is a social taboo.

And if the only reason you dont eat meat is your religion, stop arguing. I can accept religion as an answer, I think we all will respect that.

Hah, spiders aren't very common in my region.

Well, I'm just putting cannibalism into the point where devilesk said that it was alright to kill something living, breathing and thinking.

If you read the earlier post, there are more reasons. Here's a few so you don't have to scroll ALL the way up.

Happy Reading:










http://www.goveg.com/feat/chewonthis/
http://www.veggieviagra.com/
http://www.peta.org/feat/obesity/
http://www.goveg.com/feat/heartdisease/

I wonder if you're patient enough to even read all of that, or even visit the sites.

Yeah if i only eat meat and if i only drink milk.(or other dairy products)

I eat meat with lunch and supper. usually not breakfast but i like to have eggs and bacon and such. I am about 100 pounds to 110. hmm ill weigh my self later... im not obese from eating meat. The people who get bese are the idiots who go to mc donalds everyday or go to kfc everyday..