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Naw, when I think of Christian, I think of protestant... Everybody says you're either Christian or Catholic, like 2 different things.

Unfortunately most of the atheists (and some agnostics) out there cannot distinguish the difference between catholics and protestants.

It's not that hard to do. I still cant see why some of them lack that ability.

I don't really care which you are. I believe you just believe in God to go to heaven... and follow his rules...

I (and I gurantee many others) believe you currently don't know what the hell you're talking about half the time you post on the forum. Please leave.

Well those idiots that are athiest and agnostic are the equivalent to the idiot christians and catholics that they also speak of. It's mostly about not being informed. I think that's the problem with atheists. The problem with religious people is that most of them have crappy reasoning and arguments and beliefs.

Finally, someone makes the equal connection evident(meaning you put it out there). Both sides have Idiots and Intelligentes, that is a major point. Look at this(no real offense Neiji):


Good example of one not knowing alot of what he is saying by saying what he is.
Here is another example(again no offense..):

Good example of someone else who also does not know the essence behind what they are saying. This was just to support what devilesk said, because I believe their is equal fault for rivalry on both sides of the "world-wide" God issue.

I'm not going to disagree with you using this to describe Neiji, cuz he IS stubborn. But see the part that says unreasonably? Unreasonably would be refering to what YOUR opinion of reasonable would be, not a whole. Since you have seperate beliefs what is unreasonable to you, won't be reasonable to others since their opinions are individualized. That explains alot of things that you're trying to say about locking this topic.

Now I said we shouldn't lock this topic because you think it is useless right? Again, it's only useless for you, so why shoudl YOU be here if it is useless for YOU and you agree that discussing things YOU HAVE already discussed it pointless?

Now that I've said that for the (1-2-3..) 3rd time, I hope that is clear to you now. However this topic has become off-topic and turned into many a spam of topics. So now I have no argument for it being closed for that. I personally read at least 15 posts that were just spam and rude remarks, so close it for those reasons.

~Tdnfthe1

How in the hell are we supposed to resolve ANY arguments with thinking like that. You're saying people should have their own way of logic?

hello, my name is Leif, 1+1=3, it's my opinion of logic and reasoning. You can't prove me wrong. And you know what the scary part is? You actually CAN'T prove me wrong with that whole POV thing you got going on. And I'm not targetting just you. I'm targetting a lot of people that use this kind of mentaliy all the time. Some of it is good, but some of it just down right stupid, yet it sounds very smart.

Kinda like an insult some might to say about the last sentence right above: "Ya, just like you're post alpha."

Seriously, with a POV on logic and reasoning, there can be no such thing as stubburness. And for the record, I didn't disagree with what I quoted from neiji. I only quoted it so my statement would go directly towards. I should've just did Neiji- (Insert Statement) So ppl wouldn't assume the wrong thing.

Wow. There's still life in this topic, but things are spiralling out so that even I'm lost. Rumor has it that we're beating a dead horse. I'm not so sure, but seriously...this whole discussion is falling apart. So un-fall apart it please

Actually I did know what i was talking about... that simple sketch (obviously you couldn't comprehend it) was practically saying he didn't know what was really happening. I guess i'll add you outside the circle as well.

U didn't talk about anything, you made a discrimative sketch to over-expose how arrogant you think he was. Like I said before, that is needless spam, we all see how useless Neiji's post was, what's your reason for pointing it out?(No offense again). Also, your post is off the topic of what the point of what my post is. That is also why your other "sketch" was pointless, it didn't help to prove any point you were trying to make. (his post was arrogant, we get it).

Alpha... Read...

That was my point(euro), you were just an example(and I said no offense).

Alpha you're referring to something that has nothing to do with the current view point of the thread. But since denying your way of thought makes me an idiot, I'll have to explain I guess?


I took me forever to understand what you were talking about, your grammar needs a little work.

If you're so sure of your opinions, you should've known I wasn't talking about you. I said Neiji's said something that he didn't understand the backbone behind what he said. Used your quote as a support. That cleared up for you?

How in the hell are we supposed to resolve ANY arguments with thinking like that. You're saying people should have their own way of logic?


lol, you went to the extreme on trying to say logic and opinion are crap. Once again read this.

Once again you're talking about the opinion part. Your words make no linking connection with that, you're saying someone having the mindset of bread being cow mucus is cow mucus and you can't tell them what it really is. My post is saying YOU, have done something, and YOU feel it is pointless to rediscuss it. It also says that people have different ideas of what reasonable is, not if an apple is really bacon or not. I just don't understand the motive or logic behind your post, but it was a post that is trying to deviate from the point of my post. Not that a point has to be replied to or commented, but you don't leap from one subject to something entirely different, that is what makes these threads feel so useless to some people. My point stands:


~Tdnfthe1

That there alone shows me you didn't read my topic good enough, and what you've typed has actually been agreeing with me. (What the main point in my post was anyways) Unless you were using sarcasm on it.



I'm not targetting you for personal reasons or anything like that. I'm just pointing out that there is a thing called universal logic. Just like there is universal math. Like 1+1 always = 2. No matter what your POV is. This some concept exists in logic and reasoning as well. Cuase math and logic are cousins. That's why I used extremes, cause they're good to get the main idea accross in abstract things sometimes. But this seems like it wasn't one of those times.

To clear it all up, my entire point was just saying: POV can only go so far. It is not arrogant to say that someone is stubburn or stupid sometimes, or if they're reasoning capability sucks. It's all may be very grey, but there is SOME light grey and dark grey to it. (I have a funny feeling we're agreeing on the same thing, just have a hard time noticing it right now.)

Again, I did not mean to offend you personally or anything. If you saw me say it in person, I gurantee it would not have sounded offensive if it did. Internet, I just sound more like an wonderful friend.

I don't see how you people are disagreeing on POV. You have a POV when you are talking about opinions, not facts. Although you can view a fact from a different perspective it's still in reality the same.

Let's take 1+1=2 for example. What POV can you even have about that? From a different view it still looks the same for me.

We're not disagreeing on anything( ). I said his post had nothing to do with mine, and he was going far off-topic by commenting on the extremities of opinion and PoV. There was no, "No you're wrong I'm right". That's disagreeing, I just said his post was further moving this thread out of place.

It's just you, I understood what you said, this aint the place for it at this time.
And yes I understood why you said it too.

It makes sense right now, none offended, just read things thuroughly(mispelled).

And just because I feel like pointing this out:

My point came before yours, you commented off a sub-division of the point of my topic, meaning I don't have to comment on it, especially since doing so would make this thread more off-topic then it already is. Clear? Don't take it offensively as you feel I did .

~Tdnfthe1

Sorry for being a wonderful friend and taking it the wrong way. My fault.

There was no at fault, not even a misunderstanding really. Just miscommunication.

~This thread is dead, someone lock.

How about we just all stop posting and let this thread lock by its own.

Otherwise, it's not going to get locked. Have you guys noticed that everytime we asked for a lock, it doesn't get locked? Only when it gets out of hand (flaming or w/e) does it truly get locked.

Hey I'll lock it, I created it. I just haven't been checking back.