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The bold letters sum up why many people believe in God.


That's bad cause it would help us to become better people? So wait, God's out to create bad people on purpose?

Also, you trying to tell me that if u you believe in God, you have no free will?
(Not targetting you personally o-0, just what you're saying right now)

Hell is a threat. HIts a way to keep yourself morally straight.
I have a good heart, and I don't need Hell to do good things.

No. You misunderstand hell. Just like the million other things in the Bible, the flames are symbolic. You cannot get burned w/o a body. He sends you to hell when you absolutely DON'T wanna believe in God. Trust me, everybody gets a chance to believe in God. If they refuse, suit yourself. You'll go to hell, and that's your choice. Hell is a place where you are separated from God.


First you tell us what to believe, and now you act like you know more about us than we actually do ourselves. I personally believe in God because I want somebody to love me no matter what I do. I want to be loved (Not man to woman, but u know what I mean, like relatives, but much greater). With God, I'm confident in myself and my actions, and I do the right things by thinking "Would God be happy if I did ______?.


Basically, God wants us to believe in him through faith and trust in him. It's similar to the trust my parents have in me. When I tell them something, they never say "Oh REALLY" or "Where's the PROOF?", they trust me. But the love between me and my parents is nothing compared to the bond we and God have.

Hell isnt a threat it is your descision to make. some people want to go to hell, pity on them some people dont think there is a heaven or hell. whatever the case it is YOUR choice.

Accpeting God isnt that bad. anyway its more of an investment. Believe in him while you are alive then after your dead have eternal happiness in heaven. it seems very fair.

It's a huge and confusing universe, and I'll admit that there is a good possiblility that God does exist.

I think in three stages:
Instinct
What I've been Taught
Logic

Instinct does, in fact, tell me that there is a greater being than myself watching over me. However, this does not point directly to a God. It could be ghosts, aliens, etc.
What I've been taught is to beleive in God. Yet what I've been taught is often wrong, so I don't neccesarily credit this much.
Logic tells me that there is no God. It doesn't make sense, there is no proof. Of course, logic told everybody a hundred years back that man could not fly in any way, shape, or form.

So I do admit that God could exist, but I also think that if he really is as powerful as they say, he ought to know exactly how I will act and react to everything. He should be able to guide me along whichever path he wants. And this could possibly be happening right now, as I type.

You see, I am in conflict with myself again! This always happens.

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So if what you say is true, I can live my life 'for God', making no real acheivements or contributions to Mankind, simply helping hold the pyramid, I will be granted eternal pleasure?

I don't buy that!!
Pleasure is an illusion. Pain is an illusion.

You didn't answer the questions I asked. You just skipped over to the ambigious detail I used for hell.


I suppose I should've commented on what you said instead of just high lighting it. Sorry about that.

My point was, you didn't believe in God because he's real or fake. You believed in him because you WANT to believe in him. You WANT someone to make sure that everyone gets fairly judged at the end. Here's the quote again:


You clearly said right there, "I don't think this is a world I want to believe in."

BTW - Attack the argument this time not just the irrelevant details.

Same for you guyz. Remember this quote?

as someone asked... I do not believe in god, I simply believe in mankind. I think god was created by humans as a way to give meaningto their lives. Think about it, earlier on this board was some lunatic who was going crazy because he realized theres no point to life. MAke a god, and BOOM! A reason for you to live. I believe in the betterment of our species as a reason to live, not some all powerful god that just so happens to be there. Who created god. Explain that to me. Time i believe is the only thing that does not have a beginning. Then again you can reason that ALL THINGS THAT HAVE ACTIONS have a beginning.

You just did it again. You attacked the irrelevant details. We can go on who is or who is not irrelevant, or you can answer my questions.

......i wonder who he was.......

On another note, As the wise man Ferris Beuller said of Lennon "I do not believe in the Beatles, I just believe in me."

There are thick headed people on both side of this argument so why do we even try? You should share your beliefs but not to the point that you are calling each other idiots. GROW UP AND STOP USING BIG WORDS TO BACK UP YOUR BULLCRAPS

Another reason I believe in God is because I believe in a definite good (another name for God). I don't think that somebody who has tried his hardest in life and has succeded has the same exact end as a man who just got everytihng handed to him, killed millions of people, and had a carefree life. I don't get how topics like this are not locked. Who cares if you think it's a stupid idea. People get warned for saying "This map sucks, just stop making maps" but nothing happens here. I mean, "The Bible is teh bullshiz, just get rid of the idea"?!

Stop trying to run from the debate.

Everyone, go look at posts #151 and #156, and then look at the responses to them.

but you see, I'm not going to hell, so how does that statement matter?


yes it was you. You finally figured out the truth. There is no point to life. Though you went a little overboard with it.. You guys should live by this quote.
Don't live by a book or a being you THINK is there. Hey guys I have an imaginary friend... yes he exists... why? because I BELIEVE in him. (not really) Life you life to the fullest by what you want to do (that isn't illegal)

You know what?
The Ancient Greeks knew the Olympians, Titans, etc. existed. To them, they were as real as God is to you beleivers. The only difference is I would have been decapitated had I claimed the Gods to be fake.

I am confident that in future years, we will look back at religion and think of them as Myths, just like we think of the Greeks.

There is no difference.

exactly

That should've already happened if Christianity is the "most rediculous" religion out there.

If you prove Christianity wrong so that I can stop believing, I swear I will give you all my minerals and just suicide.

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Oh, how the tables have turned.

The Greeks simply couldn't understand a wide variety of things, and made Gods to explain them.
We can't explain more complicated things, things that will take longer to explain, so we make a God to explain them.

If they continue making topics like this, can I get my warning level reduced? (That's right, I said sum1's map sucked and said to them "STop making maps")

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Are you 100% confident and 100% sure that we will disprove christianity? And why christianity? Are you saving the easiest for last and goin with the hardest? I have many arguments against other religions including Hinduism and Buddhism.

Warning level really isn't anything you should worry about (unless you constantly break the rules).

Usually, asking for someone to reduce your warn level would probably increase it

My comments are directed at all Religions, not just Christianity.
Yes, I am 100% confident all religion will be proven wrong eventually.

I'm just saying, isn't this more insulting than what I said? This is affecting many people. But, then again, it's all opinions.

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You're 100% sure someday we can go back in time and we can travel out of dimensions?