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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 21:39:10
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 09:35 PM)
QUOTE(Demaris)
So we should live like savages, and kill when we please?

Seems like a primitive and ineffective system to me.


Look where we are now. That's EXACTLY how things worked back in the day, you pudwhacker.

Ever heard of the French Revolution? Where are the French now?

Are they all dead? No.

So it's PROVEN Anarchy works.

And by the way, if it hasn't already been pointed out (As it seems like it hasn't because of your repetative ignorance) Anarchy is only temporary.
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If it is only temporary, then it DOESNT WORK!!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the french revolution, tens of thousands died. Millions of dollars in property was burned. Riots broke out. They didn't all die, but they weren't happy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 21:39:54
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Are you a fool? That's exactly what Anarchy does! It rids the people of authority, until a new form is created!

That is what I have been saying.


Those are called revolutions. Destroy goverment, replace it w/ new one.

Anarchy is destroy government, and stop there. Anarchy is so bad, it can't even last that long. That's how bad it is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 21:40:28
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 09:37 PM)
QUOTE(Loser)
As what demaris pointed out, removing a flat tire doesn't fix the car. Unless you plan on replacing it w/ a new tire. (In this case, a new government)


Are you a fool? That's exactly what Anarchy does! It rids the people of authority, until a new form is created!

That is what I have been saying.
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Ok, you've admitted TWICE now that anarchy is only temporary, thus meaning that THERE ARE BETTER SYSTEMS.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-02-16 at 21:43:17
Substitute teachers are temporary; a normal teacher can be horrible.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 21:43:48
QUOTE(Loser)
Those are called revolutions. Destroy goverment, replace it w/ new one.

Anarcy is destroy government, and stop there. Anarchy is so bad, it can't even last that long. That's how bad it is.


QUOTE(Demaris)
Ok, you've admitted TWICE now that anarchy is only temporary, thus meaning that THERE ARE BETTER SYSTEMS.


Both of you seem to have the dillusions that Anarchy is permanant.

Loser: You're missinformed. Anarchy is a state of temporary "chaos"

Demaris: You're to dumb to realize that Anarchy is there to DESTROY your precious little governments, and create a new one in it's place.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 21:44:40

There isn't a single government that is 100% perfect. Corruption affects everything.

A somewhat flawed system is better than no system at all.

To use your analogy arbitrary, it is the difference between a bad (or good) teacher and no teacher at all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 21:45:34
Anarchy IS A SYSTEM!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 21:47:10
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 09:43 PM)
Demaris: You're to dumb to realize that Anarchy is there to DESTROY your precious little governments, and create a new one in it's place.
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I.....understand....that...anarchy....is...temporary.....!

That statement is so unbelieveably flawed that I can barely even put it into words.

You are saying that Anarchy DESTROYS. A BAD THING. THUS ANARCHY IS BAD!!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 21:49:06
You're right, anarchy is a state of temporary choas. That's not being debated at all. Every revolution has a time when it's in some type of anarchy.

But I'm talking about the anarchy revolution. Not the american revolution, or the bolshevik revolution, the anarchy revolution.

Anarchy is NOT a system, it's a STATE OF chaos. There is no such thing as a system of chaos. That's a pure paradox in itself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 21:50:48
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 09:45 PM)
Anarchy IS A SYSTEM!
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Ok
the
DICTIONARY
Definition

Absence of government. Not a system. The lack of a system. You....Lose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 21:50:49
QUOTE(Demaris)
I.....understand....that...anarchy....is...temporary.....!

That statement is so unbelieveably flawed that I can barely even put it into words.

You are saying that Anarchy DESTROYS. A BAD THING. THUS ANARCHY IS BAD!!!!


Destroying a corrputed system for the benefit of the people, is not bad. Where in the hell do you get that idea from?

Guess what happened when the Berlin Wall fell? ANARCHY. For how long? Until Soviet Russia drafted their constitution.

Look at Iraq. What happened after Sadam was annexed from power? ANARCHY. Until when? Just barely, when their constitution was written.

So technically: Anarchy is good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 21:53:21

You are ignorant of foreign events.

In iraq, mass riots and gunfights broke out. You don't hear about this because the media
that you said brainwashed us didn't want you to hear about it.

You seem to think riots are good.





Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 21:54:34
QUOTE(Demaris)
You are ignorant of foreign events.

In iraq, mass riots and gunfights broke out. You don't hear about this because the media
that you said brainwashed us didn't want you to hear about it.

You seem to think riots are good.


It caused peace, did it not?

But you're brainwashed more than I, if you want to go down that line.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 21:56:03
Dem has came in and laid down the law. If there's no reasonable defence this time tomorrow, I'm closing thread. If lots of people have a problem with that, I'll reopen it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 21:57:38
QUOTE(Loser)
Dem has came in and laid down the law. If there's no reasonable defence this time tomorrow, I'm closing thread. If lots of people have a problem with that, I'll reopen it.


What law? The fact that he is ignorant of the truth, right along with you? And now you're going to close the thread because my points are getting to much for you to handle?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 22:00:09
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 09:57 PM)
QUOTE(Loser)
Dem has came in and laid down the law. If there's no reasonable defence this time tomorrow, I'm closing thread. If lots of people have a problem with that, I'll reopen it.


What law? The fact that he is ignorant of the truth, right along with you? And now you're going to close the thread because my points are getting to much for you to handle?
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You seem really full of yourself right now. What's your current defence? That you're so much smarter than us that we can't comprehend you? The arrogance.

I could close it now, but you seem out numbered for now. Want to wait for the rest of the people to come back and help your side out. Cause it's near dead.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:02:16
QUOTE(Loser)
You seem really full of yourself right now. What's your current defence? They you're so much smarter than us that we can't comprehend you? The arrogance.


Full of myself? I'm the one, pointing out what Anarchy is, without putting my biased views into it like you and Demaris are.

That's more arrogent than me being a prick.

And apparently, I am smarter than you. I don't put my biased views into a debate.

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QUOTE(Loser)
I could close it now, but you seem out numbered for now. Want to wait for the rest of the people to come back and help your side out. Cause it's near dead.


And you call me Arrogent?

You have ONE person on your side. I have two. They just haven't been posting. You have ONE individual, that I would like to point out that he cannot keep his facts straight, and I have two. The_Bun-Bun, and Arbitrary (Even if he does not agree with me, he agrees with my arguements from what I have seen in his posting)

I could care less if you close it. It just shows that you're a weak debater, because evidence against you has been provided, and you cannot rebuke it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 22:04:08
You want to carry this over PM? Cause this isn't helping the topic.

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You have ONE person on your side. I have two. They just haven't been posting. You have ONE individual, that I would like to point out that he cannot keep his facts straight, and I have two. The_Bun-Bun, and Arbitrary (Even if he does not agree with me, he agrees with my arguements from what I have seen in his posting)

I could care less if you close it. It just shows that you're a weak debater, because evidence against you has been provided, and you cannot rebuke it.


You fail to realize that's EXACTLY why I'm waiting. If you were the only, I would've closed it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:08:01
QUOTE(Loser)
You want to carry this over PM? Cause this isn't helping the topic.


If you wasn't the fudgepacker who got off the topic anyways, we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we?

Anarchy is good. Just face it. You both are to blind to realize the greatness Anarchy brings. It brings about a change. A change in the way of how things are ran. And usually, for the better.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 22:09:52
I'm a liberal. I support change. Anarchy isn't the thing I support. Revolutions I do, anarchies I don't. They are not the same thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:10:30

You sound almost identical to Adolf hitler


"You fools, you don't realize the greatness this will bring!"

I'm done with your arrogance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:13:35
QUOTE(Loser)
I'm a liberal. I support change. Anarchy isn't the thing I support. Revolutions I do, anarchies I don't. They are not the same thing.


Revolution and Anarchy ties into the same thing, you rimjaw.

Corruption leads to revolution which leads to Anarchy which leads to creation of a new government which leads to corruption which leads to revolution, ect...

What in the hell do you think happens after the government has been overthrown by the people? It sure in the hell isn't nap time. ANARCHY is what it is. Then they rise up, and create a new system!

QUOTE(Demaris)
You sound almost identical to Adolf hitler


"You fools, you don't realize the greatness this will bring!"

I'm done with your arrogance.


Then don't post here. Save us the spam.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:14:09

You are just a ideologue who keeps repeating the same thing after we have disproved/debunked it over and over.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:17:04
QUOTE(Demaris)
If you even TRY to say that hitler accomplished great things, I swear I will stab you.


Stab me: He created the ideal for a unified Germany. But went about it wrong.

Now quit going off topic, and leave if you don't like my "arrogence"

During the rise of Hitler, what was there? A diminishing form of government (Heading to Anarchy) Hitler saw this, and used it to his advantage. He knew it would become Anarchy, so he would be able to take over the government, and create the facist Nazism country of Germany.

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QUOTE(Demaris)
You are just a ideologue who keeps repeating the same thing after we have disproved/debunked it over and over.


Thanks for changing what you said.

Disproved me how? Debunked me how? With your views? If i'm not mistakened, views and opinions are not facts; Therefore, you have debunked/disproved me with absolutely no facts, except your opinions. Which are not facts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:24:57
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 10:17 PM)
"arrogence"
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Way to misspell it.

Arrogance, not "arrogence".
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