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Hopefully one day, people won't need a president to keep them in line.

I was ok when we went after Osama, but all of a sudden, came Iraq. I applaud Bush for that. He really knows how to channel our anger.

Iraq is bad, ya. Because they supposedly "Threatened" us with Nukes. (And we didn't?)

But don't talk about North Korea, or china, or the holocausts that went on in africa during the 90's. Let's not worrying about them at all. I mean, they changed their ways. They're not evil or anything. Ya know? They're nice people. I mean, it's not like korea as nukes, and are building them when we told them not to. I mean, it's not like their doing that.
Man, I love my country. We basically do whatever the hell we want to do. And attack anyone we want, and if one of our senators disagree, label him unpatriotic. Because, everyone wants to be patriotic to their country. No one wants to be an outcast. So no one really stands up or anything, and I love that.
God I love fake democracy.

AHHHHHH OMG, How many times did I tell you we had hummers that had no armour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wasn't argueing with you about that. Devlin is HELPING me, even if he doesn't mean to.

report the posts if this is an issue.

lol ... I see everyone still as an oppinion. I hope this topic gets solved soon. I don't know how much you guys can possible talk about . I'm going to be an american soon.. I hope that Bush doesn't cause me an problems .

Dude, we ended that pathetic argument a long time ago, and by posting this, you are attacking me. So why should I not push the report button.........











Cause i'm not going to waste my time with your pathetic little mind that can't seem to comprehend the absolute necesity of shutting the **** up. The argument was over, yet you still try to provoke me into attacking you back.

Get a life.


And have a nice day

Wow STARS-Chris just managed to completely change the context, scale, and stance of his argument without contradicting his earlier posts.

Would you like another glass of pwned into submission Chris?

How does that help you as well? He said from the start that vehicles were unarmored. And I just brought you guys the facts that I've actually Googled.

And actually you stated that we had tons of armored vehicles and few unarmored hummers that weren't supposed to see action. I specifically researched this to show that most of the injuries are due to unarmored vehicles.

Crazy.. Bush is Crazy. I think that Bush should go to war for the fun of it and screem and scare the kids. Or go to Africa and talk to a monkey.

I think he'd have a really nice time in Africa talking to a monkey. It would be just like Bush looking in a mirror.

LOL! That is all true, lol. Have you seen those pics of the monkeys and his face on the internet? Seems like a perfect match to me...

Anyways. Bush is in Iraq to finish what his father couldn't finish. And he is also in there to establish a "Democracy" to make it so we can trade Oil with them, really cheap.

And just a little note, did you know that Muslums don't believe in charging interest?

Just a crazy little fact..... That shows how ignorant our president is....

Think about it. We go in there to establish a "Democracy" so we can get oil for cheap, and now, they are going to start charging interest (Which is against the Muslums beliefs) seems to me, we are just there to bash on the Muslums (Which I wouldn't doubt an ex-crack head like our president to bash on a religion cause his religion says their religion is bad. All religions do that)

I would just like to point these out.

Apparently some people don't realize, that Clinton reduced the national deficit by slashing the military budget to death, shutting down many arms factories, withdrawing troops from foreign countries, closing embassies, and overall reducing our military power. Now, if the world was a perfect place, this would be completely acceptable, but many groups of people believe in the use of force to convey their opinion. (ex, taliban, martyrs) By reducing our overall military strength, and thus our national defense and security, he exposed our nation to a greater risk. Now I am not blaming 9/11 on Clinton, or even Bush for that matter. But when you are seen as weakening in the world by terrorists (and even civilized countries), you become a much more likely target.

But did you know that Bush is actually SHUTTING DOWN our military bases? That is worse than Clinton cutting the budget in my eyes....

Yesterday on the radio, I heard a part of Bush's speech about the situation in Iraq. He said he will not pull out until the battle has been won. If we pulled out now, it would make us look like cowards. He said he will strike fear into the hearts of all the Iraqi terrorists. Once they get a good government going, more and more iraqi's will be encouraged to join; on they get a good military going, more and more iraqi's will be encouraged to join as well. Once this happens, more and more countries in the Middle East will probably follow Iraq's footsteps.

And the rest i cant remember...

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O and I think the speech might've been an old one too...

But you know those are lies and deceptions put out by him to make it seem like the situation in Iraq is good, when in fact it's horrible.

You have to read between the lines buddy.

Oh, and if we are "striking fear into the hearts of Iraq terrorists", why are they not retreating? Why do they still procede to take civilians and massicure them? Why are they still using gorrila warfare against us? Why have they not surrendered????

Seriously, Bush is an idiot.

So, oh smart one, please explain to me what my context, scale, and stance of my arguement was. Kellimus stated we had NO armoured vehicles in the first part of the war. I corrected him in stating that we did, and then I also noted that he must be talking about the hummers that had no armour. And some how you guys prove me wrong by telling me we had no armoured hummers and most deaths were due tot hat fact? Im puzzeled on how that proves me wrong when we both are stating the same thing.




What are the lies and deceptions? please explain better...

It is simple fact, there are two kinds reactions when some one is losing a game/battle/match/etc... The first reaction is to accept that you are going to lose and retreat/kill yourself/surrender/etc... The second reation is the "Hell no we are not going to give up!" So in this reaction you fight harder/work harder/be more daring/etc...

I believe the terrorist are well supplied with men, but I do believe they are losing. Why? Becuase they have not stopped the elections in Iraq, they have not stopped the new government from forming, they have not stoppped the new government creating a constitution, they have not driven out Coalition forces, they have not done anything helpful to them selfs.

So I believe that the terrorists are losing, extremely slowly though. And they are fighting harder then ever because they know they can't win ts they become more daring, build more bombs and attack more often in a last ditch effort to stop democracy.

I have been in football games where my team was winning 21 to 7 going into the forth quater and the other team came out and hit harder and drove on us like no other. We thought this was a whole different team becuase they wanted to win. They almost beat us to, we won by a field goal. 24-21. close one.

Actually, any attempt to stop the elections in Iraq would have undermined their anti-American stance by being anti-Iraqi. Since democracy is a fairly popular idea, this would have turned even more of the populace against the militia. It's a very shady topic, deciding if the militia fighters in Iraq are "good" or "bad." It's easy enough to label them as terrorists, but I'm sure a good deal of them are just fighting against America, an invading entity. They may use some terroristic tactics as a means of lashing back against the United States.

True, Im glad I wasn't bashed by you

But most of them are forgien insurgents. I bet some of the insurgents are trying to hit Americans/forgieners only, but maybe other, more radical terrorists are hitting anyone they can see. I hear about more Iraqis being blown up then Americans. Its always "And today in Derka-Derka, just outside Bagdad, 9 Iraqis were killed and 3 Americans were injured in a car bomb attack..." Plus I also keep hearing about attempted assinations of Iraq government officails.

Maybe there are the insurgents who want America out, and the other insurgents who want Democracy out.

Luckily he aint my president (Bush)

I remember him saying he could easily defeat the terrorists with out highly trained military.

Well, so far, the terrorists are owning our army. They don't even get training, except how to make sure that they can shoot.

Do you why? They are using the same strategy we used to pwn the hell out of the British in the American Revolution. Guerilla tactics.

It's seriously the best strategy.

Now, if our soldiers could get past their training and use the same hide and seek strategies, we would have a chance. Otherwise, we're ed and you know it.

"Owning" our military? The only thing they're "owning" us on, is the amount of money we're spending on it. They're not owning us man power wise. We've only lost about 3,000 soldier, and for a war, that's pretty low. That's like, no WHERE near compared to the real wars. You know, the ones where if we lost, we wouldn't be america anymore.

I don't picture this as a war, I picture it as a very small war. I mean, a lot more americans get shot in america with guns each year, then soldiers get shot in Iraq.

Wow, am I agreeing with Chris? Rock!

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Yes, the caucasians will be inconspicuous amongst the arabic people. /sarcasm

Guerilla tactics stop working once you stop blending in. Besides they only work against a well-organized (like squad) enemy. They'll be obsolete against lone oponents.

I would say they were owning us awhile ago, but we have had like 4 major operations in the past months and have killed like 2,000 of them and captured many more in those 4 operations.

I got an email from my friend who is an Army Ranger, Brad Jenison. He stated that he was patroling in Iraq (couldn't tell me where) and he and his unit were searching a house based on tips. When they entered the house a man took off running out the back door. Brad said he felt like he was on the show 'Cops' while chasing the guy down. hahaha I think thats pretty funny cause Brad did catch up to the man and tackle+hand cuff the guy.

Only 3,000 , oops who cares. What if it was your brother or cousin or someone you loved? Would it still just be another person that died in the "fake" war?

It is a "confritation" not a war. Good ol Mr. Bush (idiot) uses the word War to make it seem plausible for us to be in Iraq. If the American people were actually smart, they would realize this.

3,000? isn't it more like 1,700!?!