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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-02-16 at 22:25:24
He put it in quotation marks for a reason..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:26:35

I didn't misspell it either.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 22:26:42
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 10:17 PM)
Thanks for changing what you said.

Disproved me how?  Debunked me how? With your views?  If i'm not mistakened, views and opinions are not facts;  Therefore, you have debunked/disproved me with absolutely no facts, except your opinions.  Which are not facts.
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The dictionary. Assuming you've been supporting anarchy the whole time.

We're NOT debating about what anarchy is. Everyone here already knows what anarchy is. We're debating wether it's a good way to govern people. In it's case, it's rules for governing is to not govern.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:26:42
QUOTE(Demaris)
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 10:17 PM)
"arrogence"
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Way to misspell it.

Arrogance, not "arrogence".


Ah! Nice way to break the rules *Thumbs up*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:27:20
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And you call me Arrogent?

He misspells it earlier too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:30:21
QUOTE(Loser)
The dictionary. Assuming you've been supporting anarchy the whole time.

We're NOT debating about what anarchy is. Everyone here already knows what anarchy is. We're debating wether it's a good way to govern people. In it's case, it's rules for governing is to not govern.


As Bun-Bun has said: People can govern themselves.

But you two seem to have the bright idea that Anarchy is forever.

No.

ADDITION:
Also. No one can escape anarchy. It is always there, and will be there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 22:33:07
I've NEVER SAID it was forever. Infact, I've said the COMPLETE OPPOSITE. That's why I'm not for anarchists. You know, people that want to have pure anarchy and try to make it last forever.

PM me if u want to continue this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:33:20
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 10:30 PM)
QUOTE(Loser)
The dictionary. Assuming you've been supporting anarchy the whole time.

We're NOT debating about what anarchy is. Everyone here already knows what anarchy is. We're debating wether it's a good way to govern people. In it's case, it's rules for governing is to not govern.


As Bun-Bun has said: People can govern themselves.

But you two seem to have the bright idea that Anarchy is forever.

No.

ADDITION:
Also. No one can escape anarchy. It is always there, and will be there.
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You filthy hypocrite.



Where have I said I think anarchy is forever? Even once?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:35:22
QUOTE(Jet_Blast54)
You both need to shut up or something before this good topic gets locked, calm down!


Hey! Thanks for adding to the spam, you pudwhacker! You could have easily have PMed us, instead of waisting your time with spamming the thread with off-topicness. I aplaud you.

On Topic:

If you think Anarchy does not exist, look at every revolution in the world.

Hell.. Look at the United States! We were in a state of Anarchy before we created our Republican-Democracy!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 22:36:24
did we EVER say it DOES NOT EXIST?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:37:37
Judging by the basis of your arguments, yes.

ADDITION:
Also saying things such as: "It can't exist" also fabricates the image that you don't believe it has ever happened.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:38:11

Do you read? or just make up crap off the top of your head?


Anarchy exists, but it is a BAD THING.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 22:39:35
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 10:37 PM)
Judging by the basis of your arguments, yes.

ADDITION:
Also saying things such as: "It can't exist" also fabricates the image that you don't believe it has ever happened.
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Wow, you don't read what I type. I'm done arguing w/ you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:40:09
QUOTE(Demaris)
Do you read? or just make up crap off the top of your head?


Anarchy exists, but it is a BAD THING.

If it was a bad thing, then why are most the countries that have had revolutions, here?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 22:42:23
Revolutions and anarchies are not the same. Just because a revolution goes through a period where there is anarchy, does NOT mean the word revolution has the same meaning as anarchy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:44:10
QUOTE(Loser)
Revolutions and anarchies are not the same. Just because a revolution goes through a period where there is anarchy, does NOT mean a revolution is an anarchy.


QUOTE(www.dictionary.com)
2 entries found for Anarchy.
an·ar·chy  Audio pronunciation of "Anarchy" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (nr-k)
n. pl. an·ar·chies

  1. Absence of any form of political authority.
  2. Political disorder and confusion.
  3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.


Sorry, but the dictionary pwned you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:45:34

Just reading up on logical fallacy, you've committed:

1.Argumentum ad logicam

2.Argumentum ad ignorantiam

3.Argumentum ad hominem

4.Argumentum ad antiquitatem

5.Amphiboly

6.Affirmation of the consequent

7.Ad hoc


Just to name a few.



ADDITION:
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  1. Absence of any form of political authority.



Still supports me and loser's argument.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:48:46
QUOTE(Demaris)
Just reading up on logical fallacy, you've committed:

1.Argumentum ad logicam

2.Argumentum ad ignorantiam

3.Argumentum ad hominem

4.Argumentum ad antiquitatem

5.Amphiboly

6.Affirmation of the consequent

7.Ad hoc


Just to name a few.


Again, I thank you for getting completely off topic, and being a hypocrite.

You called me an idiot: Ad Hominem Abustive.
You use opinions as facts: Argumentum ad logicam

Enough of your spam. Leave us. (Reported for spam)

On Topic:

Please read my above statement Loser, than we shall discuss upon it further, without the spam from the rimjaw.

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Demaris)
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  1. Absence of any form of political authority.



Still supports me and loser's argument.


No, it does not. It shows that people may live within Anarchy. It is stating what anarchy is.

You don't need the government to rule you. If you do, you are pathetic and weak.

Oopsie. Guess that means you are, since you believe that there just HAS to be government to rule.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:51:20


And, once again, you only respond to the points which you have an answer that supports you. Way to fall into my trap.


ADDITION:
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You don't need the government to rule you. If you do, you are pathetic and weak.


Ok, I'm going to go to your house in the night, light it on fire, and wait outside with a gun for you to come outside so I can shoot you. You don't need the government, right? So you don't need a fire department or police.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:53:36
QUOTE(Demaris)
And, once again, you only respond to the points which you have an answer that supports you. Way to fall into my trap.


This comes from someone who claims they know all the Ad Hominems I have commited, yet commits them on his own?

And how can I argue against a pethetic unplausible one lined sentance?

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Demaris)
You don't need the government to rule you. If you do, you are pathetic and weak.


Ok, I'm going to go to your house in the night, light it on fire, and wait outside with a gun for you to come outside so I can shoot you. You don't need the government, right? So you don't need a fire department or police.


Ever heard of Human Nature?

Sure. Do that to me. Then you would get shot by all my friends unknowingly; Thus, making you a dead man, and my friends free from any punishment by any of your "friends"

ADDITION:
Again you put your biased beliefs, and your expectancies into your posts. A very horrible way to create a solidified argument.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:54:56

How so? What If more of my friends come and shoot your friends too? It leads to escalation and eventually war.


ADDITION:
QUOTE(Zordon @ Feb 16 2006, 10:53 PM)

Again you put your biased beliefs, and your expectancies into your posts.  A very horrible way to create a solidified argument.
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If you weren't so ingorant, you would know that everyone's beliefs are biased. It's the farking definition of the word.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 22:58:12
QUOTE(Demaris)
How so? What If more of my friends come and shoot your friends too? It leads to escalation and eventually war.


QUOTE(Zordon)
Sure. Do that to me. Then you would get shot by all my friends unknowingly; Thus, making you a dead man, and my friends free from any punishment by any of your "friends"


Do you understand the English language? Unknowingly, means that NO ONE would know; Hence, my friends being free from punishment of yours.

ADDITION:
I'm done with trying to debate against you Demaris. You're an arrogant little child.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-16 at 22:58:42

And you claim that I used unrealistic, overspecific scenarios? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



I'm done with you. You are FAR too arrogant to even begin to comprehend a word I am saying. Time for some food.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 23:03:36
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=revolution

Revolution overthrows a government as WELL AS REPLACES IT. Which is something anarchy does NOT do. Revolution does go through a state of anarchy because there is lawlessness, but it does not mean it is the same thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 23:04:25
ROFLCOPTER!

Go ahead and believe your own false dillusions, young one.

The wool of your own stupidity, arrogance, and hypocricy is pulled to far over your eyes for your own self to admit defeat.

I'm arrogant. Whipty do! At least I can admit it, unlike your pathetic and psuedo-intellectual self.
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