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To an extent.

I believe by hand-picked they mean from the old members. Because some old members are not there.

Like Mr. Camo

He should be there though.

@noobs: It's mostly suggestions compiled together from the members of the community, and the top ones are the ideal candidates anyway.

@Kell: Thanks.

My point was that in_a_biskit's description of an "oldie" forum would be innacurate if some old members didn't get in or if some non-old members did get in.

Let's invite the mature people to the HT forum.

Let's stop telling Moose who to let into the forum.

Maybe not, but you do get minerals for Lite and Serious discussion.




No Comment.


I stand with what I said before.

I just feel left out, I promise I won't do it again.

You sure aren't helping your image.

No, he's right, people just need to stop begging or stop telling who to let in.


I'm pretty sure everyone in the HT forum is mature, but everyone that is mature is not in the HT forum.

No, saying "Stop telling me who to let into my club! I'm the boss!" adds to the silly elitist image of that forum.

That's great. I really don't care anymore. Think its stupid? Go ahead and keep on thinking that. Think its elitist? Go ahead and keep on doing that.

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This isn't over Moose.
Locking the topic won't make the problem go away.

Locking won't make the problem go away? Where is the problem? I did something and I'm sticking with it, not much of a problem at all. Unless you've got a problem with me... in that case, bring it on.

Explain the problem. I don't see a problem here.

If you don't understand the cause of people's anger here...

The reason there is frustration is one of the reasons why Moose made it. Those who aren't in it and don't feel frustration deserve to be in it. Those who feel it don't deserve to be in it.

It's that simple. Mainly, Moose examines the people in Lite and Serious discussion. Try to act smarter there and getting in is a snap.

Besides, it's not like we're plotting secret things that no one knows about. It's basically the samething as Serious Discussion, minus stupid.

No, it's a forum for people with self-esteem poor enough to want to have an exclusive club on an internet message board. The comments from the guys who can choose who to let into the club all but prove it.


Plus, why don't you at least let everyone read the forum? Your "we are smarter than you and don't want you posting near us" argument isn't holding up.

edit: Damn, I edited too late.

Yeah, I'm sure you can judge other people's self-esteem level based upon this. Actually, I don't even see how it's possible since we allow more people in!


So you're saying Moose has a low self-esteem? If anything, his is normal (not high!). Maybe if you took the time to try to learn more about the members, you'll realize he's highly respected and probably the most respected mod of all time.


Good question. Ask moose.


Of course it's not holding up! It's not our arguement!

All of his comments are nicely summarized with this third-person quote:

I agree with letting us read the forum, though not able to post in it. It will allow most of the people complaining to well.... stop complaining. Also they can see how most of the people in the forum act and learn from them.

That shows high self-esteem.

I actually like the idea of letting other people view but not reply.

However, something in the back of my head tells me it's not a very good idea. I get these strange feelings now and then and it's usually right. But it might not be this time, so we'll see what Moose says later.

The problem I refer to is the fact that part of the SEN community feels that they have become "above" the rest of the SEN community, and have therefore chosen to schism themselves from it.
It is elitist attitudes that have been festered by a overall degrading quality of discourse that have contributed to this schism. Locking topics referring to this problem, and hiding behind virtual walls is not going to improve this problem.
The immature manner in which this problem has been approached in (in the manifestation of the high templar forum), is the sign of another problem as well. It's hard to tell where this problem lies, but I think it is with a few individual members who have problems with generalizations, have good reason to believe that they are above the rest of the community, causing them to automatically discount the thoughts and posts of many members because of arbitrary differences, and might also feel that they alone have the wisdom to decide who is "good" enough for inclusion.
There is nothing wrong with handpicking, but it should never be for inclusion into a community.

I don't think letting us see the section but not reply is a good idea. It is like seeing the money on the floor but you cannot go take it because some wall is in the way. If people see it they will want to reply and might make some topics in other section about it. Anyways that is just my opinion about it.

I think we should all forget it exists. (People who can see it and the people who can't see it alike.)

So, you're saying it makes more sense for me to start banning hundreds of members that degrade the quality of discussion accross the board instead of making a sanctuary for good discussion?