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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 23:06:10
That's all you can do? Attack me personally? You got nothing to back up your argument except personal attacks now.

I got the DICTIONARY on my side. You got no argument.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 23:20:03
I have the argumant that the dictionary points out exactly what Anarchy is.

No where does it say it's bad. You perceive it is bad because you use your own biased opinions as facts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 23:35:33
The poll question was not what is anarchy. It was, do you support it? By anarchy, it meant what anarchists want. Pure anarchy. They're not revolultionaries, they're anarchists.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 23:39:31
Anarchy and Revolution tie into eachother man.

Without Revolution, there is not anarchy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 23:43:19
Ya, we've all agreed on that part. We've all already knew that for a while.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 23:45:07
But you cannot say you do not support Anarchy, only revolutions, or it would be considered hypocricy because revolutions, no matter what, bring about a form of anarchy. So if you support Revolutions, you support Anarchy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-16 at 23:54:38
I don't support anarchy, I support revolutions (Depending on which one of course). Anarchy is just a price for a revolution.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-16 at 23:56:47
So you are saying that you support revolution, but not Anarchy, when Anarchy is caused by revolution... That's hypocricy.

It doesn't matter if you support just revolution. You cannot support JUST Revolution, for it causes Anarchy; Thus, you are supporting the starting of Anarchy, by your revolution.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-17 at 00:01:14
Like I said, it's a price. I don't support having my foot getting cut off. But if my life is on the line, THEN I would support it. Only reason why I'd support it, is because I support the rest of my body a whole lot more.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-17 at 00:06:53
So you're saying you would support a revolution that will most likely kill people, and not support something that really doesn't actually kill anyone?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-17 at 00:12:29
Again, it's price. I don't support killing people, but If I have to kill one person to save thousands, then I would support killing that one person.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-17 at 00:15:18
The revolution itself kills more than Anarchy does.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-17 at 00:18:27
Huh?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-17 at 00:18:28
So what you're saying to me, is that you support the deaths of thousands of people, over the deaths of a few hundred?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-17 at 00:19:07
How in the hell did you come up with that? I simply said:

QUOTE(Loser_Musician @ Feb 17 2006, 12:12 AM)
Again, it's price. I don't support killing people, but If I have to kill one person to save thousands, then I would support killing that one person.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-17 at 00:20:33
A revolution kills more than a post-revolution.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-17 at 00:24:01
Where are you trying to get with this? That revolutions are bad?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-17 at 00:28:51
I'm trying to tell you that you cannot support just revolutions because "anarchy is bad". Because technically, revolutions are worse than anarchy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-17 at 00:37:05
I'm not supporting revolutions because anarchy is bad. I'm supporting revolutions because of the government they can create. Anarchy is just a price for it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-17 at 00:40:33
Then why deem anarchy bad? That would be hypocricy if you do that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-02-17 at 00:47:14
Oh, so anarchy is good? It's good to have complete chaos and anarchy in the streets while you're overthrowing the government? Ya, that's not bad. That's good. disgust.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-17 at 01:01:41
Again, you distort the meaning of Anarchy:

QUOTE(www.dictionary.com)
an·ar·chy  Audio pronunciation of "Anarchy" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (nr-k)
n. pl. an·ar·chies

  1. Absence of any form of political authority.
  2. Political disorder and confusion.
  3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose


Okay. Read above. Do you see the words chaos anywhere?

I thought so.

Absence of any form of political authority. That doesn't mean there is no policemen, or judges or not. Just no POLITICIANS (No government does not mean chaos.)

Political disorder and confusion. That meaning, that politics are not in order. They are in confusion. (Again, they are not in chaos)

Absesnce of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose:
QUOTE(www.dictionary.com)
co·he·sion  Audio pronunciation of "cohesive" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (k-hzhn)
n.

  1. The act, process, or condition of cohering: exhibited strong cohesion in the family unit.


Hence, the government is no longer conditioning the people to act a certain way. They have the freedom to act how they wish. But it does not mean that there is no Order from other forms or authorities.

QUOTE(Loser)
It's good to have complete chaos and anarchy in the streets while you're overthrowing the government?


Chaos and Anarchy are two different words, so why try to intertwine them with eachother?

Just because there is Anarchy, does not mean there is chaos, and visa versa.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2006-02-17 at 01:04:38
Definitions don't run reality, in reality Anarchy would cause chaos (maybe not forever but for some months)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-17 at 01:07:02
QUOTE(Lonely_duck)
Definitions don't run reality, in reality Anarchy would cause chaos (maybe not forever but for some months)


Oh, but they do run reality.

So you're saying that the definition of the word fag, does not run society? The real definition of fag, is an english cigarette. But society has twisted it's meaning around, to call someone a homosexual; Thus, the definition runing reality.

Please refraine from the discussion if you have no idea what you are talking about, thank you.

And by the way: Anarchy and Chaos are not the same thing. So get over yourself, and actually listen to the argument.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2006-02-17 at 01:09:01
I'm talking about if Anarchy were to happen there would be chaos, and why would people become policemen?
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