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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-01-31 at 11:11:40
I think we should have given more, our country is much bigger than others (economically speaking) we may be down, but its still much, much, more than other countries have so we should lend a helping hand and help poor countries that are in need.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-01-31 at 11:52:42
I think it is just a matter of discretion. Perhaps all countries should have made a donation proportionate to their GDPs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-01-31 at 12:15:25
Thats actually not a bad idea, i havent heard that yet...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2005-01-31 at 16:53:26
[center]Or else everyone shouldn't have donated anything. But bleh, want to read what I was going to say? Read what I wrote in the other tsunami thread.[/center]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-01-31 at 17:33:07
Bush should send anything there. ANything helps those poor homeless sick people around the Indian Ocean
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-01-31 at 18:48:35
None.
We should "donate" to our own homeless people first.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-01-31 at 19:17:30
This topic always makes me laugh. If we don't give enough money to a tsunami, we're seen as horrible monsters. And then something like Iraq comes up, and our interference is seen as a horrible mistake. I don't like double standards much.

We did give a lot, you know. Besides, India said thanks for the help, but no thanks. Way to be, India.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-01-31 at 21:18:41
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Jan 31 2005, 05:48 PM)
None.
We should "donate" to our own homeless people first.
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IP what are u talking about?? How selfish! You're saying we should be focusing our money on our own people rather than those whoms homes got wiped out by a big tital wave?? Our own homeless people are homeless for a reason. It's sometimes their own fault they're homeless, but not all of them. As for the tsunami victims.... it's really not fair. Some of them were rich and profitable families and then suddenly lost everything to the tsunami. Most people there are starving and dying from diseases. THey're in much much more need of food and shelter than our own homeless americans. Now how would you like it if let's say Lake Michigan had some sudden earthquake and a huge tsunami formed and crashed through your town of Milwaukee and finding that everyone refuses to donate money to you and instead spend it on their own poor people?? Wouldn't that suck?? Well that's basically the attitude you have there which is wrong.

Unless you were just being sarcastic...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zycorax on 2005-02-01 at 13:13:55
You can never send too much to places like that. A lot of people is suffering. I dont know how much money Bush sent, but Norway have sent one milliard NOK. I dont think thats enough from a rich country as Norway.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-02-01 at 14:46:16
It's not the matter of how much money they need anymore - they have more than enough. It's just that they need organizations to help manage it. I believe the United States, not Bush, sent $350 million. Compare that to the $1.2 trillion spent on Iraq, and you can see why more than a few people complain about Iraq. Yet, I live in redneck America, aka Central Pennsylvania (not to be confused with the hillbilly south), and so many people are in support of Iraq, but then the tsunami comes up and they whine, for example, "Oh, it doesn't affect us! Let those Asians alone!" It's thoroughly disgusting. Then, I try to explain to them how little that is compared to Iraq, and immediately they begin to fight with me about how Iraq is justified. I think we sent an adequate amount - the only thing left to us is to see that it is spread out accordingly in the right areas.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-02-01 at 16:23:57
Yea i hate it when people have that sort of attitude. Care about nothing but themselves, and dont even realize it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-02-01 at 16:55:24
Say that Germany had gone to war with Iraq instead of America, and we had stayed out. Do you think a single one of those people would support it if Bush didn't?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2005-02-01 at 20:43:06
[center]Uhhh.. Felagund... Whatever.

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None.
We should "donate" to our own homeless people first.


That is how I think, and how it should be. I don't see how we can donate to other countries, that aren't even in the best diplomatic relationship with our country, before we can donate to the homeless people in our own country.

And this really pisses me off.

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Yea i hate it when people have that sort of attitude. Care about nothing but themselves, and dont even realize it.


I hate when people say that. Just because we want to care about others in our own country before other countries means we don't care about anyone but ourselves?

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You can never send too much to places like that. A lot of people is suffering. ...


That automatically makes it other country's jobs to make it right? People always tell me that they think America gets involved with everything and that's why a lot of people don't like Americans. I agree with that. I'm sure many of you people have even said that too. But when a few countries get tsunamied on you're all, "Oh! Send money now. Help them all." Pffft... They're capable of getting themselves back on their feet. It's those type of people that should get their ideas straight.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-02-01 at 21:03:58
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I hate when people say that. Just because we want to care about others in our own country before other countries means we don't care about anyone but ourselves?

Well i was really saying that it's bad when people refuse to help others from other countries and instead just help their own people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Still_MatiC on 2005-02-01 at 21:13:20
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Feb 1 2005, 09:03 PM)
Well i was really saying that it's bad when people refuse to help others from other countries and instead just help their own people.
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Oh sure, I guess North Korea is terrible for not helping others first before themselves. The people are living in terrible conditions, but they'll understand if their country should aid someone else before them. Heck, one person from another country is more important than someone from your own. Great logic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-02-01 at 21:21:04
QUOTE(Still_MatiC @ Feb 1 2005, 08:13 PM)
Oh sure, I guess North Korea is terrible for not helping others first before themselves. The people are living in terrible conditions, but they'll understand if their country should aid someone else before them. Heck, one person from another country is more important than someone from your own. Great logic.
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Apparently u didnt read my post. I'm saying it's bad when people refuse to help others outside.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Still_MatiC on 2005-02-01 at 21:24:40
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Feb 1 2005, 09:21 PM)
Apparently u didnt read my post. I'm saying it's bad when people refuse to help others outside.
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I did read that. Sometimes countries refuse to help others outside because basically it isn't their mess, and they already have something to clean in their own country. Doesn't seem anything wrong with that.

I'm pretty sure what you meant to say was, you don't like countries that refuse to aid others espiecally when they are capable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-02-01 at 21:29:04
Right, but usually most countries/people i see that actually refuse to help people are rich/spoiled people. I hate it when people refuse to help others because they just simply dont feel like it.

Poor/bad countries I can see why they wouldn't help but that's because they've got a good reason not to. Whereas people like us, the United States, really should be helping others out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Still_MatiC on 2005-02-01 at 21:32:38
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Feb 1 2005, 09:29 PM)
Right, but usually most countries/people i see that actually refuse to help people are rich/spoiled people. I hate it when people refuse to help others because they just simply dont feel like it.

Poor/bad countries I can see why they wouldn't help but that's because they've got a good reason not to. Whereas people like us, the United States, really should be helping others out.
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Then you should've said that instead of saying

"Well i was really saying that it's bad when people refuse to help others from other countries and instead just help their own people."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-02-01 at 22:12:12
Kahoona, we already have programs and homes set up for the homeless. It's their problem that they don't seek help; it's not as if we're not willing to help.

That you even think that shows you know nothing on the subject.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by phlemhacker99 on 2005-02-02 at 12:28:13
I think what he sent is good enough. We are not the only country to help them out. Plus we have a war going on.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Drj12 on 2005-02-07 at 18:54:45
We are repaying the comfort and support that other countries gave us at 9/11. The US of A needs to give as much to the effort as we can. I do realize that the war is going on and everything, but the donations are coming from the people and should not come out of the government's pocket.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by cfro7211 on 2005-02-08 at 19:42:38
considering the amount of lives lost (150,000+ or somewhere near that figure. ) and the vast wealth of the United States, i think we should have sent a sum in between $750 million and $1 billion. You never know when we might need thier friendship--why not help them out now?

we've got money to spare, considering the budget is over $1.3 trillion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-02-10 at 00:03:16
and comparatively speaking, what is our deficit?

Rhetorical question, btw.
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