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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Entropy on 2005-02-01 at 02:33:37
SEN will Host a New Forum Section: Melee Map Making.

This forum is for anyone who ever has made a Melee maps with the intention of either creating a beautiful terrain* to do battle or aspiring to create a map that tends towards race balance. Concepts ideas are also welcomed so long as they pertain to creating maps that are visually stimulating and/or promote fair melee gaming for fun or for competitive gaming. Concept ideas usually means maps with mineral, gas, expansion placement and terrain details that have subtle to drastic effects to the game play and strategy.

Why SEN as the home for this mission?
We have a forum and all the tools at our disposal within this site. We also have some of the most creative minds in the UMS and Concept map making that the Starcraft community has to offer. This way our communities will learn from each other and perhaps foster a synergistic environment.

The final dream?
To revive the old Map of the month project Battle.net used to have, hopefully with the partial involvement of Blizzard.

Battle.net Map Archives - Map of the Month

One good map made by our community for the whole community on a monthly basis. The main focus however will be in creating maps that are fit for professional gaming both in balance and quality. However ALL melee maps will be welcomed for discussion in this forum.

I have posted an excellent article by Araxas to start helping out with this new SEN project.

Map Making guide by Araxas

~ Entropy



* The military concept of "terrain", not the map editor defenition of it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-02-01 at 03:00:17
Looking forward to seeing some more melee mapers and maps coming here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-02-01 at 09:36:48
SEN has evolved from no melee maps to melee maps now. Ah well, looking forward to some newer melee maps instead of all the broodwar maps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-02-01 at 09:44:42
Step 1 of the master plan? smile.gif
I'm kinda interested on how you plan on getting Blizzard involved. Do you have an audience with them or something?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Entropy on 2005-02-01 at 10:12:37
Kaboom: Not evolved ~ simply expanded into the best "map making" site out there. That's what SEN is about map making. Melee and Non Melee is all map making.

IP: Let us say that Blizzard "read" Araxas guide. Let us say that the maps in the Invitational Mystery Map Tournament are part of some at Blizzard attempting to try to revive the Map section too. Let us say that the new patch with the 3 modified ladder maps is part of this trend. Let us say I had my small part of influence in all of this. Read the English version interview: http://www.wgtour.com/news.php?idN=11624&datab=broodwar or directly here http://www.hangarnet.com.br/fconteudo.php?abririd=201&pag=2.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-01 at 10:36:47
We may just have one forum, but as the one forum gets used more and more, we'll increase the number of forums we have dedicated to melee map making. Although, I really don't know how many concepts, ideas, and assistance you can have withmelee maps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zycorax on 2005-02-01 at 11:59:29
Wee! A own part of the forum for the melee map makers w00t.gif I checked the Map Making guide and learned al lot of that smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-02-01 at 18:04:03
could make it a tutorial or something
Report, edit, etc...Posted by best.sock on 2005-02-01 at 19:00:25
<3 entropy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-02-01 at 19:37:56
QUOTE(Chu @ Feb 1 2005, 02:00 AM)
Looking forward to seeing some more melee mapers and maps coming here.
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Looking forward to us actually playing these melee maps...

QUOTE(KaboomHahahein @ Feb 1 2005, 08:36 AM)
SEN has evolved from no melee maps to melee maps now. Ah well, looking forward to some newer melee maps instead of all the broodwar maps.
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Yup, SEN has evolved... ALOT. From a crappy site..... to the best, censored.gif ing, kick ass site ever w00t.gif

QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Feb 1 2005, 09:36 AM)
We may just have one forum, but as the one forum gets used more and more, we'll increase the number of forums we have dedicated to melee map making. Although, I really don't know how many concepts, ideas, and assistance you can have withmelee maps.
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Oh, melee maps have alot to be talked about. U're right, concepts, doodads, theming, Blueprints, strategies, mineral placement, start ups, etc. Oh the possibilites...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-02-02 at 15:07:32
Wow, I've been harrassing Yoshi for about 6 months when SEN started to include melee maps, and now Entropy comes here and everything swiches in a space of a day :/

I'm not complaining. Wuv you Entropy ^.^
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-02 at 15:36:30
QUOTE(Shadow Paladin @ Feb 2 2005, 03:07 PM)
Wow, I've been harrassing Yoshi for about 6 months when SEN started to include melee maps, and now Entropy comes here and everything swiches in a space of a day :/

I'm not complaining. Wuv you Entropy ^.^
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I was implanting it before I left. You left when I did, you made no indication you wanted to return. Entropy wanted to continue it, he got it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-02-02 at 17:04:44
You use the word implant a lot happy.gif.
I was about to ask if you really meant to say implement, but after looking up implant in the dictionary, I guess it isn't bad word usage or anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-02 at 17:44:11
I don't use it too much...

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?act=Sear...ighlite=implant

wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-02-02 at 18:06:16
You could probably have two forums- Melee Showcase and Assistance, and Terrain Concepts.

And all this stuff with Blizzard... *Ðeathknight imagines his waterfall on Blizzard.com.
O_O
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-02 at 18:33:58
I don't think we need a entire forum for terrian... but I'll do the Melee Showcase and Assistance. You think anyone would use melee maps in production? Melee maps are too fast to make methinks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wolf on 2005-02-02 at 18:44:51
i'm looking forward to seeing some more melee mappers and maps, i'll post there and i'll also preticipate in makeing some melee maps happy.gif happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-02-02 at 19:30:27
We also need concepts, if not already planned to do so.

I dont think we need both a Melee showcase&assistance and a melee map production forum. They're basically the same thing. You would be giving out comments and suggestions eitherway.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Entropy on 2005-02-02 at 23:14:37
Melee maps take a long time sometimes ~ to test them so they aspire to some balance. I will post a nice interview soon in the news if you guys accept it, if not worthy move it to the melee forum.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-02 at 23:17:29
Yeah, but you dont exactly need an entire production thread to tell people that you're making mineral deposits. Its more of a "I'm done, lets modify it after" kind of a thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-02-03 at 00:53:02
I don't understand how complicated balancing a Melee map can be. To me its all commonsince and mathmatical if you want to really hard core.

Maybe its because i don't play melee hardly at all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-02-03 at 14:38:11
Omg did u guys seroiusly add a "Melee map showcase?" Forum??

Those two forums should be combined and be one!

EDIT: NVM! I actually read the forum names. I thought it was "Melee map production" and "Melee map showcase." tongue.gif

But still i think its best for concepts to be it's own forum.... disgust.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-02-03 at 16:03:39
Yoshi, terrain is a huge part of melee. Placing a doodad in a certain place can affect the outcome of the game. People could also discuss extended terrain-- hell, why don't we have a melee/ums terrain forum combined or something like that?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-03 at 16:52:15
The question is DK... how much would it be used?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-02-03 at 17:20:20
QUOTE(Yoshi da Sniper @ Feb 3 2005, 03:52 PM)
The question is DK... how much would it be used?
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Alot

Just about every single map people make could contain tons of terrain talk.
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