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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-05 at 00:26:38
I thought this would be a interesting followup to my rigging rant.

I was playing a 2vs2 Altered Starcraft III for no reason whatsoever. Just felt like it. My ally died off really quick, I found it strange that my reinforcements to help my ally were never enough to prevent his doom.

I ended up massing hydras and beating both of my opponents. I found out later, that red, had 9999999 minerals. Single handedly, I beat a rigger and his partner (it wasn't too much of a really interesting uber micro skillful tactics kind of game as it was the fact that they made really stupid mistakes which made you wonder what kind of people play SC these days).

I think the moral of this speaks for itself.

As of now, you will rarely see me in any public games now since half of them are all rigged. Sucks for the random person who enjoys a surprise game from "the guy from staredit.net" [/ego boost]. If you catch me in the channel op staredit.net, chances are I will be wanting to play a nice balanced game. Same for map night. Rigged games will never be allowed there, so make the most of it and join us in some fair games where the odds of winning or losing depends on skill, not your ability to set one trigger to give you infinity minerals.

Heres a screenshot and replay (replay might be corrupted and the outcome might be different then as its supposed to be, as it was in a game I just tried. Screenshot seems to be missing what red spent, but it still shows you how much he had).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-02-05 at 00:31:11
Not much I can do except congratulate you on owning them.
Look forward to map night tomarrow, ArchonTagInColor woot.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wolf on 2005-02-05 at 01:38:43
lol WOOT g/j yoshi, tonight is gone be the first mpa night i have ever been 2, well got to play in, either the channels full or i'm working or i'm just busy with friends and g/f this is gona be cool happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by yeow on 2005-02-05 at 02:00:25
Gj on killing them with hydras wink.gif

Too bad it might be corrupted, Im going to watch it in a slower speed and hopefully it wont screw up crazy.gif

Gah, it messed up again, 8x or 16x speed tends to mess it up, and maybe 4x, becuase thats what i watched it on
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oni-Sei on 2005-02-05 at 02:01:36
lol kind of expected it didn't you? if the host is in acertin spot(not for this chance) its possably rigged or they like that spot

Great job Yoshi keep up the rigger bashing its funny to see you pwn them and other people who rig maps

as for non rigged maps thats hard t ofind now and days isent it sad.gif glad all i play is db and RP

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wolf on 2005-02-05 at 02:05:06
QUOTE(yeow @ Feb 5 2005, 12:00 AM)
Gj on killing them with  hydras  wink.gif

Too bad it might be corrupted, Im going to watch it in a slower speed and hopefully it wont screw up  crazy.gif
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yeah it was kinda screwed up for me, but it may just be me, i've had other replays and stuff that do that to me(there annoying as hell)

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QUOTE(Oni-Sei @ Feb 5 2005, 12:01 AM)
lol kind of expected it didn't you? if the host is in acertin spot(not for this chance) its possably rigged or they like that spot

Great job Yoshi keep up the rigger bashing its funny to see you pwn them and other people who rig maps

as for non rigged maps thats hard t ofind now and days isent it sad.gif glad all i play is db and RP
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if u keep up the good work we the people of SEN can help beat the riggers then they will leave battle.net because they know we have beaten them
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2005-02-05 at 04:22:20
I do that all the time (beat riggers) not too much of a challenge if they rig a map XD
I once beat a terran with 9999stat marines
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-05 at 06:17:08
Personally Yoshi, i think your mis-using the News Page, for unrelated, personally topics, that although talk on this issue of Mapping, should really be left to Garbage, Serious Discussions and such. Maybe move them off the News Page, and replace with a small News Post, on the topic of; "Yoshi and Rigging; Views, Opinions and Options" or such. And leave it at that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2005-02-05 at 08:38:39
its not really much of an accomplishment, ive beaten riggers plenty of times, but still its an accomplishment, even if its a small one *grabs energy drink* cheers mate
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-05 at 10:17:15
QUOTE(.Coko[CK)
,Feb 5 2005, 06:17 AM]Personally Yoshi, i think your mis-using the News Page, for unrelated, personally topics, that although talk on this issue of Mapping, should really be left to Garbage, Serious Discussions and such. Maybe move them off the News Page, and replace with a small News Post, on the topic of; "Yoshi and Rigging; Views, Opinions and Options" or such. And leave it at that.
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I told you we're not a news site. If you're coming here for starcraft news, don't. Go to some of the other community sites for that. (Although we shall post news worthy items that effect map makers, like the new patch or something).

We're purely map making and map playing news, and you know very well that once in a while I'll voice my opinions and experiences.

I mainly did this because the rigging was getting on my nerves (literaly, 2/3 of all the games on bnet hosted are rigged, they're no fun).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow-Ninja on 2005-02-05 at 10:28:18
heres one of the most balanced mass maps i've seen
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-02-05 at 10:36:03
Only rigged maps allowed on Map Night are for testing purposes. (ALpha/Beta maps)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SaLaCiouS(U) on 2005-02-05 at 11:02:55
1. You're an idiot for bringing this up.
2. It's easy to beat newbs even if they have all the power in the world.
3. Rigged maps have ALWAYS been on Battle.net, and are no more prevalent then now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by illusion(SS) on 2005-02-05 at 14:56:27
i have an idea

WHAT IF, we sent a team of mappers out, to find all the maps they can. then they play them, and if they're rigged, un-rigg them, then protect them, then send em back out into the public!

BAM

no more rigging
Report, edit, etc...Posted by E)s-Fury on 2005-02-05 at 15:47:56
Illusion the problem with that is that the rigger's still have the original rigged maps which they will just spread back.

I don't see why people call Yoshi for discussing it, rigged maps are a serious problem on the UMS. I bet it turns tons of people off from playing certain games for a long time. Unfortunatley there really is no way to remove it, as long as people get entertainment out of beating people unfairly there will always be rigged maps.

Yoshi, I can suggest these two things:

1. Play melee, they are almost never rigged, and you can tell from the start.
2. Host the game.

Goodluck.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-02-05 at 16:41:13
QUOTE(Yoshi)
I think the moral of this speaks for itself.

"If you rig and you lose, then you, compared to the person who beat you, suck skillfully, and compared to everyone else who does not stink, suck morally."

QUOTE(Rexy)
Look forward to map night tomarrow, ArchonTagInColor woot.

[cough]tomOrrow[/cough] ArchonTagInColor is one of my favorite maps. Besides Snowball Warz, it's one of the few maps I can actually honestly say I'm a pro at. I'll try my best to go, and y'all better try YOUR best to let me join a game tongue.gif !

QUOTE(Coko)
Personally Yoshi, i think your mis-using the News Page

That's like saying, "No offense, mr. Admin, but you're abusing your powers and I think you <insert derogatory verbs here>!!" Besides that you can't really do anything about it, he can also IP ban you! But of course, Yoshi has enough respect for most of us to simply call you unthoughtful and, at most, stupid, instead of banning anyone just because he's having a bad day. Otherwise, why would I still be here?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chooie333 on 2005-02-05 at 17:42:20
good job yoshi put thoes riggers back in there place smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by illusion(SS) on 2005-02-05 at 17:56:57
ok, i got another idea, why dont we get all the maps that people usually play, un rigg em, protect em, and then put em on the DLDB so whenever someone wants to play the unrigged version, its here for them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-02-05 at 18:24:14
Hmmm... in the future I'll put my rantings in another forum (I guess theres too many people coming in to actually personalize the news posts now). Anyway, so rigging was a problem before, but now almost EVERY map I see is rigged... which is why I brought it up. It's gotten worse.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-05 at 19:02:52
Yeah, its no longer the news is it tongue.gif. I meant this doesn't follow the idea of a news post, its should be linked to a "Article Discussion" rather than a post in itself. We are not a news site, but i doubt SEN is a debate site.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-02-05 at 21:15:50
QUOTE(Yoshi)
(I guess theres too many people coming in to actually personalize the news posts now)

Sounds like a certain hypocritical admin with an avatar from the Mario series, doesn't it tongue.gif?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LordVodka on 2005-02-06 at 01:32:42
personally, i LOVE rigged maps. Although yes, they are the cheapest things ive ever played, its even MORE fun to find these riggings, exploit its weakness, and nail them for their cheatin' selves. It makes uncovering a rigger to his teamate and all the other players so much sweeter
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-06 at 12:48:10
Best way to play a rigged map is to ask for rematch and inbetween, rig it back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TRiGGaMaSTa on 2005-02-06 at 16:41:44
I bet after losing, the rigger decided he needed to win, so he rigged it even more. 9999 everything for him happy.gif!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2005-02-07 at 11:47:28
Actually if i was going to rig a map, i'd just make it give me all opposition units when i lost mine, and make them be defeated.
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