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The object of whether Time and God has come up many times; whether it is why did God create the world in six days, or is their such a thing as predetermined fate.

It was causing topics to go off topic, so here marks the beginning of the discussion on time. What is time? Does God fit into time, or is he outside of it?

By the way, the examples above have to do with Religon, but you could also bring up other topics concerning time.

We are presuming that he does exist. If he doesn't exist then my argument is void. *Shrugs* Saying he exists outside of time is like saying he exists outside of our universe (trying to think like a Christian here). He's here, there, everywhere. However, if he gave us our means of interpreting time, he is an idiot. We could have a five day cycle with seventy-three weeks a year instead of a seven day cycle with fifty-two weeks and an extra day a year. He would not need six days to create the universe. He would need nothing. He would not need a day of rest. He would, again, need nothing, seeing as he is supposedly *all powerful*. I think he is called a he because the authors of the bible, whomever they might be, really thought (as was people's wont back in those days) that any god must surely be male because males are obviously superior to females. /sarcasm. If anything, a god would be a female for giving birth to humanity. However, that is off-topic.

Time is simply the chronological order of events, meaning that future events will take place after past events, etc. Need I enlighten? I really don't wish to a) look up my post concerning this argument or b) type it up again.

Ok, although our fate is somewhat predetermined, we have the decision to choose our fate. The future is set no matter how hard we try to change it. Say we can travel through time and five minutes from now i spilled milk. Say i go back and the five minutes pass and i don't spill the milk. Me not spilling the milk was the outcome because even though we changed the predicted outcome we saw, we really just saw 1 thing that could have happened.

You're talking about traveling forward in time, which is pretty much impossible.

Oh u bring up a great idea. Time was then created by God. He could have done everything in 1"second". Lets think like a Scientist.

Of courcse theres time but when was the beginning? It would be nice for you to try to research that. When was the beginning. If time is like a line, with no beginning and no end, then this is way out of comprehension. If God wanted us to use the format he gave us, 7 days a week. For each day, he created things. According to the Bible, he created things like bam.... I wasnt there so... how can i be so sure.

Time travel would be an impossible and dumb thing if there would be no limit to time.

Time is an arbitrary measurement and in all real considerations does not exist.

Good thought. Most people (including scientists)are still baffled by the fourth demention, although we know that it exsists because without it where would we be.

Time does not exist. Nothing exists (Trying to be like other ppl that say God is bogus) NOTHING EXISTS! YOU CAN'T PROVE IT!!!

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time is a way for humans to measure what occurs through our history. its a human creation, to an extent. the concept of time, that is.

so....you are saying it could be broken? because every human creation is never perfect and can be broken....

You can't "break" something that doesn't exist.

If you don't believe time is arbitrary, define the term "second"

A second is a collection of time otherwise unrepresentable.

OO a Favored Topic! Let's Hit up the Concept of Time, and God!

#1:Time is a strange concept to start a topic on. It's a very open question. You can't simply say time is something that can be consumed, because time doesn't have time for itself. Get it? Everything you do consumes time, but does time consume time? it can't, it doesn't even make sense. So if time can't consume itself, then in theory you shouldn't be able to travel in time, or there should also not be some sort of 4th dimension of time. Time is simply a way of expressing Days and Nights, years. Hours and minutes are just broken down so we can have "time" for every moment we are capable of making a thought. If Humans could use more then 10% of our brains, we'd have Things like Trillaseconds, just to measure what we do with our life spand as a race, and individual. However Time does flow, and Time can't be Gained, it just passed. It becomes history, Hence that time is a Human Developed Trait for Measuring Lives and events.

#2:God? God can or can't exist. Everything was created or began by something. Something started Universe, and something started the Universal Cycle. Wonder what the Universal Cycle is? well notice how solar system have a bright sun at the center? and eventually the sun explodes turning everything to gas and then compressing turning into another sun and the process repeats. Eventually solar systems will all compress with the core of our Galaxy(Milkyway) and make a Gigantic Sun. Now..Since there are over thousands of galaxies well think about it...
There will eventually be 1 Large Sun in universe, How big it will be i can't phasam to think. But the point that this will happen isn't my point, my point is what could create soo much damn Energy into 1 Single Intentity! I mean something has to manipulate it to be that way. It can't just be the way of the universe... Something since before the beginning of "time" has predetermined the being of a Universe, and then the Human Mind was made out of most things, but the truth is,.... with thousands of Galaxies, how many other Damn Humans can there be on their own Planets thinking the same thing I mean it's unthinkable yet extreemly cool.
.........OOps went off topic....hehehehe

Well um..Yeah someone else Post I've gone to Far...

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second:
In the International System of Units (SI), the time interval equal to 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium‑133 atom. (188)

simple, ain't it

Do I sense a snap?

If you don't think time exists you are either full of bs, really, truly ignorant, or don't believe in any other form of measurement. I mean all dimensions are human conceptions. You just don't want to believe in time because you can't see it, only what it does.

*Edit* If you don't come here with an open mind you shouldn't be debating.

'Time' exists, but not as we think of it. There are places in the Universe where time has literally stopped (The surfaces of collapsing stars). It's all relative and depends on various forces such as speed and gravity:

High speed = slower time
High gravity = slower time

How can you know about slowing down time and such?

There is scientific evidence to suggest that time is relative to speed and gravity at the very least.

It's the time dilatation effect where speed is involved. Did you know that your watch loses a few nanoseconds if you're speeding across the Earth in a plane all because time slows fractionally for you at that speed?

why the hell are they using cesium? but yeah, thats an interesting piece of info, but it still means time was a man made measurement

Isn't the speed of light constant, but time isnt.

For one thing Woa you should read my post on time. And second you just made an ignorant comment by saying people are full of Bs because they don't believe in time. Belief is an Opinion, Opions can't be wrong, and no one in this thread has said anything to suggest they're not open to discussion on anything. The guy who said God Doesn't exist and time doesn't exist made a good point, the fact is you can't prove that time is an Actual "thing". We Can believe or not believe that time flows and has a past and a present, or another dimension. It's entirely up to the thinker(errr I mean person, w/e). So out of all the Comments in this thread yours seems the most ignorant, because you became outraged that someone believes (or commented/joked) about them not believing in time. Well that;s all for this post...I also lost my Strain of thought

More People Must Post!! Debate! Debate! Debate! Debate!

I think we should all kill ourselves because life is pointless and we could all be living a lie! I maen if you could question existence then whats left...

Not when you realize that at one time you can have two cesium-133 atoms oscillating in perfect harmony in New York, and put one on a Concorde and fly it around the world and then the atoms wouldn't be in harmony.




No. The speed of light changes drstically due to many things.