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Staredit Network -> Terrain -> Got Terrain Questions?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-08 at 17:57:06

Hello, got any questions on how the pro's do there terrain? Need help understanding step-by-step how to create beautiful effects such as the famous waterfall? Ask any questions here, and get 3rd-party help.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by A dead marine on 2005-02-08 at 20:21:34

How do the professional terrain makers blending the terrain so perfectly and it actually looks real?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2005-02-08 at 20:27:43

how did bros. blend teh staircase with the high dirt? i always end up getting an ugly and blocky effect...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-08 at 22:05:29

Well, most professionals use alot of Sprites to blend there placed tiles to form that realalistic effect. Really without the sprites it would look really blocky. Pro's take the time to make sure they put the right # of sprites in their maps. Basicly without sprites the map would look

ty. So remember this sprites are the key to terrain.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chill on 2005-02-08 at 22:56:11

Actually, I think terrain looks

ty if you use more than one or two sprites for cover up.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-08 at 22:59:14

QUOTE(Chill @ Feb 8 2005, 10:56 PM)

Actually, I think terrain looks

ty if you use more than one or two sprites for cover up.
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Well everyone has different opinions. But you must admit most people do use lots of sprites to cover up their blockyness.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KhaosKreator on 2005-02-08 at 23:04:01

QUOTE(urmom @ Feb 8 2005, 08:27 PM)

how did bros. blend teh staircase with the high dirt? i always end up getting an ugly and blocky effect...
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I made a brush for you.
Just use bushs/trees in the same area as where he did and it should be identical.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-08 at 23:11:26

How nice of you to help these peeps out, thanks.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KhaosKreator on 2005-02-08 at 23:23:53

QUOTE(T-Virus(U) @ Feb 8 2005, 11:11 PM)

How nice of you to help these peeps out, thanks.
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Np. I think if we get people to post the brushs they use more often, then it'll help everyone become better overall.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-08 at 23:28:45

QUOTE(KhaosKreator @ Feb 8 2005, 11:23 PM)

Np. I think if we get people to post the brushs they use more often, then it'll help everyone become better overall.
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Yeah i posted a topic about that..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by VoidArchon(MC) on 2005-02-09 at 00:48:28

QUOTE

how did bros. blend teh staircase with the high dirt? i always end up getting an ugly and blocky effect...

I wrote this from bottom to top so

QUOTE(VoidArchon(MC))

it's just a matter of taking time to find the right tiles...

QUOTE

ty. So remember this sprites are the key to terrain.

Actually, you CAN make any terrain non-blocky, it's just a matter of taking time to find the right tiles...which most people just go with the sprites thinking it makes it look professional.
Half the screen shots in the hall of fame will only work on a 64x64 sized map or less.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-09 at 08:01:37

QUOTE(VoidArchon(MC) @ Feb 9 2005, 12:48 AM)

I wrote this from bottom to top so

QUOTE(VoidArchon(MC))

it's just a matter of taking time to find the right tiles...

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Actually, you CAN make any terrain non-blocky, it's just a matter of taking time to find the right tiles...which most people just go with the sprites thinking it makes it look professional.
Half the screen shots in the hall of fame will only work on a 64x64 sized map or less.
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Well most people do not take the time, and sometimes you can't blame them...On my terrain i try my best not to use many sprites but to find the right tiles that fit, as you can see.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by -BW-Map_God on 2005-02-10 at 18:59:15

On Starforge I noticed you can make custom terrain tiles but when I make a new one (i.E. Test) I can't seem to find any way to change it from the white box it starts off as. Does it save somewhere and I need to load it in a different program to edit it

.

P.S. Sorry if this is a newb question but I haven't experimented with terrain that much so just trying to update myself

Report, edit, etc...Posted by FaZ- on 2005-02-10 at 20:31:23

Click and drag the tiles from the pallette onto the empty box to fill it. Here is the link to a video tutorial of Yoshi making a 3D building. Video Tutorial

Report, edit, etc...Posted by -BW-Map_God on 2005-02-10 at 22:03:51

Yea I downloaded the video earlier, just hadn't gotten to watching it yet

, thanks for the tip between the video and your advice I'm sure I'll be able to figure it out :-)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-10 at 22:34:19

QUOTE(-BW-Map_God @ Feb 10 2005, 10:03 PM)

Yea I downloaded the video earlier, just hadn't gotten to watching it yet

, thanks for the tip between the video and your advice I'm sure I'll be able to figure it out :-)
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Yeah that tut vid should help you out alot, SEN does a good job on tutorials for the newer map makers of SEN today.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Heimdal on 2005-02-10 at 22:56:29

I don't think people know all the caveats of the custom brush editor...

You can place a tile on it from either the master palette or the default palette (the one you get random tiles from). If you use the default palette, the tile will have a small "R" in the corner. This means that the actual tile placed will be a random tile from that group. You can also right-click tiles in the custom brush editor to make them transparent (marked with a "T"). These tiles will not change the terrain of whatever you place them on.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by -BW-Map_God on 2005-02-10 at 23:26:00

Wow, Yoshi's Tutorial Video was cool, its nice to see him blazing away so quickly finding the right palettes making his custom ones

. I got a ways to go before I come anywhere near that kind of terrain editing masterage

.

Thanks for those tips Heimdal, I for one was educated by them and I think your right about most people not knowing, I never even noticed the R's and T's before

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-10 at 23:49:22

QUOTE(Heimdal @ Feb 10 2005, 10:56 PM)

Well only you would know all this..why don't you make a tutorial

lol.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-02-11 at 19:37:34

I ask this:

Why not let Heimdal work on Starforge and we make them Tutorials.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-11 at 22:32:44

QUOTE(BeeR_KeG[eM] @ Feb 11 2005, 07:37 PM)

I ask this:

Why not let Heimdal work on Starforge and we make them Tutorials.
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True, GET BACK TO WORK HEIMDAL *pulls out the whip* jk

We all love you Heimdal...for your hardwork and dedication for making Starcraft better.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-02-13 at 06:30:08

QUOTE(Heimdal @ Feb 10 2005, 09:56 PM)

Ha Ha I knew that. Heres another niffty little tip

You can increase and decrease the size of your curser using the + and - keys on your keyboard. This works in both SCM Draft and Starforge.

More importantly it was my idea to have them add that lol.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheOddAngel on 2005-02-13 at 07:59:53

I knew about the R thing but I didn't know about the + and - thing

thx bolt

Report, edit, etc...Posted by UBCS on 2005-02-13 at 16:10:48

QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Feb 13 2005, 06:30 AM)

I suck with starforge i only use it for terrain i can't even figure out how to do triggers in it. I feel like a dumbass...rofl

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