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If I were to hug you, I wouldn't be hugging you, I'd be hugging your electrons.

How do you know anything else exists if you can't touch it? I mean, you could see it, but what if that is an illusion casted by electrons or something else?

We can't know for sure whether or not anything exists. That's why our minds have systems that can analyze any sensory input and interpret it. When you see something, that's just your brain's composite collection of data, interpreted in a way that is understandable. That's the problem with human perception - we can input our own desired sensory data unconsciously. Take dreams, for example. Have you ever had an incredibly vivid dream? So vivid that you could almost swear that it actually happened? That's because when you're asleep your mind resists outside sensory input and generates its own. That dream was so vivid because, according to your senses, it actually happened. I guess what I'm trying to say is that we can't always trust our own perception, because it is easily influenced by what we want to believe. Getting back to what FireKame said above, we have no choice but to make the assumption that we exist, because our mind won't interpret what we see as anything that it can't comprehend. I often wonder if other people perceive things very differently from how I perceive things given the same sensory input. It wouldn't surprise me if they did.

Yea, I've always been an advocate of the whole idea that what I precieve as green would be what you percieve to be blue.

But if that's so, do we see anything, or what if the blind guy sees more than us; and it's just so overpowering that he thinks he sees nothing at all?

if electrons exist, we exist, i dont exactly get what you mean with that whole thing but yeah....i think we exist

That means that anything could be anything and maybe we are really in a Matrix!

Life is a matrix actually... just we dont know what kind of matrix...

Everything's just a bunch of atoms giving the illusion of senses... You can "touch" before your brain is MADE to make you think it's "real" (following physics rules). You can smell because atoms each gives a different illusion of a perception.

If everything wouldn't be illusion, we'de be seeing, touching and smelling all the same thing. I can smell Vanilla to something that can smell Starwberry. This isn't real. The only thing that is real is time, and this principle makes it so the illusion can be.

I'm not religous but to those people who are, if God creates us, who created him/her?


Actually Firekame, biology explains most of it, but then again in your theory, those are just thoughts..

God was always there. If there was always a universe (in big bang theory) how did the universe get created?

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God always existed. If the universe (talking about big bang theory) was there before us, how did the universe get created?

Our mind is so complicated, your mind cannot comprehend itself. Its wierd but it is true. Some crazy guy who thinks that a guy is there however is hallucinating and talking to himself may sound and look crazy to you, but to that person, the person is as true as the computer in front of you.

All need say is People can only use a MAX of 10% of their brain at what time for sensing, memory, and others. Each Multi Task we take on takes up about 1.(something)%. and most people can only focus to about 2-5 things t once. If Humans find ways to break our limits of our minds, we'd probably find the answers to these questions. Like i said, this is all i need say.

Before the Big Bang, theories state that everything was just one mass of matter.

Einstein's theory of relativity states that everything does exist.

how did the one big piece of matter exist, and something else must've been there to create the big explosion. Can you prove that there was a big bang?

There was a Big Bang because the oldest celestial bodise are about 13 billion years old(I think) and if you use your astronomical equations and take into consideration Movement Dynamics in a Vacuum, Acceleration and Differential gravity you will see that at one point everythign was in one spot.

It is also believed that the universe will expand so much at one point that gravity will be so low that it will collapse and the universe will revert back into what is called the big crunch.

Okay, just read the first post, but what I say is:
I don't know !
And neither does anyone else.
It's impossible to know whether what you percieve is just an illusion, or perhaps a dream, or overactive imagination.
For all we know, there could be little elves that create 'sight-o-beams' and 'sound-o-beams' and 'smell-o-beams' and 'taste-o-beams', etc., experimenting with me, seeing how I react to whatever reality I percieve thhose beams as.

Or, as I like to say:
We could be unicorns and dragons asleep in a spaceship heading towards the planet of mountains using uber-space-drives, having really weird dreams about things called 'humans' and 'matter' and so forth.

Using that logic, why can't we just say that the universe always existed?

You've been sliced by Occam's Razor.

Fine. How can you say that the universe always existed? You're believeing in Big Bang for the same reason I believe in God...

Its the way u think about what u see and wut ur mind thinks as wut it is





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I think I understand Occam's Razor, but I see one giant flaw in it.
Let's see... we say pi is 3.1417.... and so forth and is an infinite non-repeating number. According to Occam's Razor, why don't we just say pi is 3? Did I misinterpret Occam's Razor?

Yeah, you did. Occam's Razor is what we use when a situation becomes overly complicated. We can calculate pi, so we don't need to apply Occam's Razor to it. But we can't make any assumptions about the existence of God, so we try to come up with an answer that is both scientifically feasible and uncomplicated. If we make the assumption that it's possible for something to "just exist" (I wouldn't make that assumption myself, but sometimes you have to work within other people's premises), we can eliminate God as the middleman and say that the universe just exists. I don't see a reason God has to come into the picture in the first place. It's just another example of a conclusion drawn without evidence. I'm not saying that it's impossible that God started the Big Bang. I'm just saying that it's wrong to come to that conclusion without evidence.


Who said I believe in the Big Bang? I've never once made such a statement. I was using your flawed logic. If you feel like attacking your own logic some more, be my guest.

No it isn't.

[center]The first crapload (Couple Hundred) of digits in Pi are

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609433057270365759591953092186117381932611793105118548074462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949129833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132000568127145263560827785771342757789609173637178721468440901224953430146549585371050792279689258923542019956112129021960864034418159813629774771309960518707211349999998372978049951059731732816096318595024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303598253490428755468731159562863882353787593751957781857780532171226806613001927876611195909216420198938095257201065485863278865936153381827968230301952035301852968995773622599413891249721775283479131515574857242454150695950829533116861727855889075098381754637464939319255060400927701671139009848824012858361603563707660104710181942955596198946767837449448255379774726847104047534646208046684259069491293313677028989152104752162056966024058038150193511253382430035587640247496473263914199272604269922796782354781636009341721641219924586315030286182974555706749838505494588586



Here's the first 10,000 digits. Thought about posting this but I'd kill my 28k.

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How did this topic turn into what pi is?

It's just 22/7, fools

22/7 repeats itself after a couple of digits.