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A shakra is like an aura or energy field that ilegidly covers a person. Some believe that they can see these things.

Do you think it's real? Discuss.

I think anything could be real, but theres no way to know if someones actually seeing these auras or just flat out stoned

I concur. Just like in The Matrix. That could actually be real. Faking images feelings and other things into your mind and only barely keeping your body alive.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people actually could perceive auras or "Shakras" around people. But again, like in that other thread, we have to take into account the nature of perception. People can convince themselves of anything. Many incarcerated serial killers, for example, are able to convince themselves that they are innocent of a crime, even if the evidence against them is well-documented and conclusive. I've always been of the opinion that the human mind perceives a lot more about people than we interpret directly. Things like body language and tone of voice are not thought about actively, but passively. My conjecture is that auras are a self-delusion. People who see auras might be just more perceptive as to the nature of people they first meet through body language, vocal tone, or even pheromones, and may have taught themselves, either on purpose or through wishful thinking, to interpret that information visually as an aura, when really the information is being received by their other senses subconsciously. I've thought a lot about this because some of my best friends here at school are really into auras and energy and stuff like that (musicians, go figure).

Do you think it is viable that shakras could be used to help heal people?

Nope. But I think that its possible for people who believe in them to delude themselves into thinking that they can and have healed people. If they can, where is the proof? It would be a simple matter to take a video camera and show a wound being closed supernaturally, or whatever. If it actually could be done, one of these so-called healers would surely have claimed James Randi's $1,000,000 Prize by now.

Sorry for the breaking news... on a rough tone perhaps. This seems a lot like the DragonBall anime series for my liking. And prob'ly seen similar at BF for a time now (or another forum I hang out). *Ponders*

On a seriouser note: It could exist but 'till scientifically sound proven, I'm not sure n' doubt it does. Its oriental belief in some of their practices, but not really proven so far. Pressure points system to heal they use, seems a lot like that (but I'm not sure).

Edit add: Guess that some day recently to come, I'll have to do a self evaluation of myself for stands on religious principles.

A family friend is a 'healer' and says he can see these auras. He's healed members of my family, alledgedly, so I decided to test my scepticism about the paranormal, and saw the guy about my insomnia and depression that set in badly after Christmas.

It was a weird experience, but I did feel better for about 24hrs afterwards. Being 'healed' is really quite odd, and it does actually feel like there's some kind of force straightening your back and making your hair stand on end. This happened when the guy wasn't even near me.

I'm still a big sceptic, but it challenged my views.

There are uncountable strange things in this universe, but I cannot, logically, condone this.

CaptainWill, what precisely did this "healer" do to you? It might just have been psychology at work.

Basan:
Yea, dbz is an example of it. Japanese religon has quite a bit to with shakras (well, some versions) so of course it would enter into their artwork.

As for the 1st paragraph, I tend to agree with ya.

Now for the 2nd... It could just be the power of induction/psychology.
Did you know that laughter increases the body response (hormones for instance) against enfermities in ill ppl? It's proven by scientifical studies. It maybe worked in similar ways for Capt.Will with the extra confidence boost that he was getting healed.



I dig the Japanese culture very much. Their logic, standards n' religions (mainly Taoism) draw my interests closer to search/learn it better. (For instance, the crime rate in there is 'round 3%. One of the lowest in the planet, if not the lowest.)

Edit add: And I knew that already(artwork in anime stuff).

Yeah, but I didn't believe I was getting healed... It was just a weird involuntary response by my spine and the muscles around it.

Ok then. Perhaps it was due to stress pressure that got relieved somehow. I know to need some massages (from someone dear to me) now n' then 'cause my stress acumulates in my shoulders makin'em tuff as door nails.

Did he touched you physically or not? I assume it didn't by your sentences.

Nope, don't believe in Shakras or any other energy that only "special" people can see. If these auras actually existed they would be measurable in some way. They would appear on a certain energy spectrum or they would give off a radiation of some type.

Yeah, he put his hand on my back, but didn't exert any pressure.

Shakras? I've always seen it spelled 'Chakras', but it could just be spelled differently in different areas, or, less likely, similarly spelled, similar, different things.
Anyways...



Not necesarily, though, part of the belief about Shakras is that they do give out something measurable. Nothing that can be measured with modern measuring-instruments, but by approximation.

First of all, there is no 'proof', no law, nothing, that states that the eye can only detect that which can be detected by machines, that has been confirmed and is undoubtable.
Secondly, anything - psi, teleportation, conjuration, Shakras - is, as far as we can guess, atleast able to exist, as we have no way of knowing if we have discovered every form of anything in the Universe, every method of doing things, and so forth.
If you asked someone from 2000 years ago whether it's possible to have images appear on sheets of glass without the aid of any 'gifted' people, Gods, Goddesses, spells, charming, reflections, and so forth, chances are, the person would say it is impossible, and that yuou could only do it with such things as 'magic'.
Because they didn't know about electricity, electrons, and so forth.

... Don't understand this.



The eye only picks up wavelengths from 400 nm to 700 nm, known as the optical spectrum on the electromagnetic spectrum. Different "machines" can pick up all the varying wavelengths for example radio, microwave, UV.



Until someone can prove that these exist, they are as good as not existing in the first place. I'd place money on psi, conjuration, and Shakras not existing and teleportation existing in the future with the right technology.



But computers and television never existed two thousand years ago. We're talking about Shakras existing right now, not in two thousand years from now.

Electrons existed 2000 years ago.

Also, didn't people think that we'd discovered everything there is to discover about 150 years ago?

I don't know if these people are just charlatans or something, but I know how we could test their ability to read an aura scientifically.

Keep a number of these people separate from one another, and make them read the auras of a sequence of other people. If the results are all close matches, then we have evidence for these auras.

It may be that we just give out differing levels of various wavelengths of light when we're in different moods, and that this contributes to an 'aura.'

(That's non-visible light, btw)

People who claim to see these things have been tested in that way and the results are in. There's still no such things as Shakras!

http://www.randi.org/

If that's not a biased website, then I don't know what is.

Who is it biased against? The scientists aren't the ones failing to perform, it's the people who claim they can perform miracles that are failing to perform.

Generally, people don't use complex machinery or computing devices to decide whether a car is 'big' or 'small', they just approximate the size in their heads.

But everything you listed is in, as you said, the electromagnetic spectrum.
I said that perhaps the eyes can pickup things other then that.

Until someone can prove that the Big Bang theory is correct, we might as well say it must be false. Also, as long as no one can prove that you're not the only thinking entity in the universe, we might as well say that, except for yourself, we're all in your imagination.

Okay. But, supposing we did show them our T.V,'s, they might believe that there are invisible creatures or sprites in there that are merely tricking us into thinking we've created a wonder box. Either way, they wouldn't understand what it is, or how it works; we do.

Okay.


The brain interprets the signals that your eyes receive, so unless somebody had a special ability to interpret some weird thing that nobody else could.... blah blah. Basically it doesn't work evolutionarily.


The difference is that we believe in the Big Bang because of the evidence we have seen prior to the theory. We don't make it up and then try to find things that might prove it is real.


Same as above.


So are you suggesting that Shakras can only be seen by time travelers who traveled back into our time?

i believe shakras are real like when some1 gets angry.



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