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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-02-26 at 06:21:42
The Free Masonry has always been seen in relation to the American government.
The all seeing eye on the back of our dollar, for instance, is the very symbol of Free Masons.
Many of our early presidents were confessed Free Masons, then the public display of being a Free Mason vanished. Why?
This could be a (very) elaborite hoax, but it seems to have enough information to back it up. ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Puni(F) on 2005-02-26 at 08:37:46
May I ask..Wtf is a masonry? A mercenarie?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-02-26 at 12:06:41
You should watch national treasure with nick cage it has a lot to do with the masons!! Also my friends grandpa is a mason!! he even has a real ring. Our forefathers were masons. they do some ritual well not rituals but sort of like it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-02-27 at 13:23:55
Have you ever seen the episode of the Simpsons with the Stonecutters? The Masons are like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-02-27 at 15:49:10
hmm i might of theirs just so many episodes cant keep track of them all!! crazy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-02-27 at 15:50:59
The masons... died I think tongue.gif

Cults don't last forever, you know.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Munchkin(ZM) on 2005-02-28 at 19:37:24
I agree with DT. These 'Free Masons' sound like a cult..... (Unless its a Kiwi Cult, then its fine biggrin.gif)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-02-28 at 22:00:10
Ok, so heres what I've found on Free Mason's.
A breif History
They started out as hired mercenaries during the crusades. Known as the templars, there symbol was a red X. After they were no longer needed, they became violent at their former employers, Kings and such. They were named pirates, and it is said that the red X became a skull and cross-bones. After they stole what they needed from the kings, they settled down, somewhere near Ireland. They eventually became on good terms with the rulers again, and became a sort of club for the elite. They even became a section of the church. It wasn't until after the civil war of America that the Free Masons actually became a bad name. Around this time a man, Albert Pike, was the leader of the "club." (He also founded the KKK) The Free Masons were kicked out of the church and have since died down. But there are still many revivals today. Bill Clinton was supposedly on video camera at one of these such revivals.
I'm not too sure how solid the facts are in this history, because they were mainly from internet sites related to anti-government propaganda and the church.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Drj12 on 2005-02-28 at 22:46:20
I think that the free masions were a very well respected group at one time, but i think that, because of society's advancement, they are not as well respected as some other groups today.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Munchkin(ZM) on 2005-02-28 at 23:07:22
Oh, well that KKK part is disturbing, I didn't know that the Free Masons were like.... White Supremeseesess... So... I now officialy dont like them biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wolf on 2005-03-01 at 01:03:49
QUOTE(Rantent @ Feb 26 2005, 04:21 AM)
The Free Masonry has always been seen in relation to the American government.
The all seeing eye on the back of our dollar, for instance, is the very symbol of Free Masons.
Many of our early presidents were confessed Free Masons, then the public display of being a Free Mason vanished. Why?
This could be a (very) elaborite hoax, but it seems to have enough information to back it up. ermm.gif
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one question, did you see the movie "National Treasure" that is a good movie but trust me if explaisn that who thing
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-03-01 at 03:32:33
Sorry I didn't see national treasure, it looked pretty phony. I guess I'll see it when it comes on video. sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-01 at 23:46:19
I cant remember if it is the devinchi code, or the book angels and demons, but one f those 2 has a adventure plot which involved the free masons...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Munchkin(ZM) on 2005-03-02 at 23:39:55
I think you quoted the wrong personononononon....

And I havn't seen National Treasure either so....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2005-03-03 at 23:06:31
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They started out as hired mercenaries during the crusades. Known as the templars, there symbol was a red X.

You sure about that? During the Second Crusade, the Knights Templar were highly respected fighting monks. They were eventually destroyed after the high religious figures of the day distrusted them and called them heretics. Fromt hen on, the Templar were obliterated.

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Cults don't last forever, you know.

The KKK is still around.

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These 'Free Masons' sound like a cult...

They were considered a secret society where the social elites would meet and talk business.

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Oh, well that KKK part is disturbing, I didn't know that the Free Masons were like.... White Supremeseesess... So... I now officialy dont like them

Actually the Masons were nothing like the KKK. And as a point of interest, the KKK was started as a renegade badn to ward off Northern soldiers when the North invaded the South in the Civil War. It wasn't until later that they became known as the white-supremecasts they are today.

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orry I didn't see national treasure, it looked pretty phony.

How right you are. It was based on the idea of the Masons' existence, but most of the places they go to and clues they find aren't real.

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I cant remember if it is the devinchi code, or the book angels and demons, but one f those 2 has a adventure plot which involved the free masons...

I only read the Da Vinci Code, and that talked about the Opus Dei (which was a religious sectm not the Masons). So I assume it wa in Angels and Demons that you read that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-04 at 01:29:03
Yeah Angels and Demons talks about the Illuminati (scientist cult) and their fusion with the Masons therefore making their symbol an Illuminati symbol (the pyramid).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-04 at 18:16:02
Actually the theory goes, that the knights templar werent entirely wiped out but instead some survived and went into hiding, and helped start the begginnings of free masons.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-03-04 at 20:30:42
Another interesting factiod I found three days ago. Albert Pike, (the former leader of the KKK), has a statue in Washington D.C. It's rather strange that they would build a monument for someone who started such a cruel group. Well it's still standing today, although there is much opposition for it. People have tried to remove it many times.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by arglebosters on 2005-03-04 at 22:31:13
LOL I know this is late, but before people knew what a free mason was it was getting very random. LOL I just realized that this is too. NOOOOO not randomness!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-04 at 22:36:42
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Feb 27 2005, 01:50 PM)
The masons... died I think tongue.gif

Cults don't last forever, you know.
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I was invited to join the female wing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-05 at 05:44:37
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*cough*
I was invited to join the female wing.
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lmao, wow, thats awsome. GJ FIrekame
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DevliN on 2005-03-06 at 04:07:46
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t's rather strange that they would build a monument for someone who started such a cruel group.

Do you not read the replies in your own topic? The KKK wasn't started as the puritanical group it is known as today. Pike has statues everywhere because he was a good guy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-03-06 at 10:13:53
xD Da Vinci Code= crap. The Freemasons was just a club made up of our fore fathers. Just an excuse to go drinking, maybe do some rituals, just have some fun. The Jolly Roger (skull and crossbones) was NEVER used by pirates. There is NO historical record of pirates EVER using it. Freemasonry has pretty much no influence on our current Government at all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-06 at 10:42:07
If you're trying to make us believe that America is based on Christianity you're wasting your breath. No duh it is...I mean really... -.-;

I don't see why you're making such a big deal out of this, or perhaps my opinion is a bit biast since I am a Christian and all.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-03-06 at 12:28:35
Honestly, I generally have trouble getting my point across. What I said above was really pretty stupid to throw in. My point was that Christianity contradicts intself, and is alot like a cult. It's something I've been thinking about for a few days, but I should've posted it here. Sorry if I confused/offended you. I'll make a different topic to do that. Editing the earlier post.
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