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Ok, we "all" know the old and simple trees on fire, that consist in disabling the bunker so it is transparent and make his HP low so it make fire, but, if you want the player to be able to have observers in the maps and he go next to this building in fire, he will see it !!!
The new system consist to make the buildings invisible for observers ! Yes, it's possible ! You will need to put a p14 scanner sweeper, put bunkers for a computer, disable them, make an obs for human, kill the obs some milliseconds after (he need to have time to detect disabled bunker) and all that before the scanner sweeper end, and after the scanner sweeper end, it's done, get an obs , and it's invisible ! Don't forget to make their hit points low.

Download a test map goodly done here :
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Screenshots :
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Comments are appreciated, thanks all
PS : If it's not new, put it in tutorial, so we can know it existed, and other don't make post like this... (and delete this post)

Good Job!!

Maybe I would add a screenshot ?

Sure

Wow that's a really nice affect. Will it work for protoss buildings too? U know so you can get blue fire and not beable to detect it with the observer?

If we can disable a protoss building, yes i'll test that with shield battery.

ADDITION:
Humm, it works with shield battery, but don't try pylons ! It close SC and say "script 6738412 does not exist" when you disable them. I'll post screenshot of blue fire to first topic very soon

The Shield battery made a crack on the floor (The shadow did)

What better then ?

Wasn't there something like this in Tuxedo-Templar's Fire Fighters map?
I think the forest caught on fire at one point.

Yeah, in Fire Fighters Tuxedo-Templar used terran buildlings for red fire. You can also use photon cannons for 'blue' fire if you want, althought I'm not sure whether it makes the shadow or not

What do you mean by "if it's not new, put it in tutorial"?
Of course we have a tutorial for this! Not this new one though...
2222 minerals when this was posted.
A bit of a new technique but it will only work on PC.

Maybe you should tell the 999999999999999 weird effects that p14 can cause in your map, between them, freezing, crashing, fogofwaring, etc ;P

That's what I meant , it's new, so forget this because it starts by "if it's not new" ;PPP



Maybe i would save 9999 hours of searching/writing ;PP

No, seriously, i posted this because i just discovered it and IT CAN BE USEFULL like my first topic said, it's for allow observers and fire trees....

PS : THIS WILL WORK FOR INVISIBLE BEACONS TOO I THINK ! (didn't tested but logically....)
So, just remember, we can make something be invisible from obs if it can be disabled doodad state. Just think of some new possibilities

exemple : in cat & mouse you have often a beacon to rescue other and sometimes its invisible, but we can get obs, and it's not very nice, so use it !

ADDITION :
if you need to find something, try before with buildings or another immobile thing, because frozen units arn't that utile.... (unless u can unfreeze them )

Isn't this a bit pointless because it pretty much destroys all other preplaced units by freezing them as well?

Don't units placed before scanner sweeper don't freeze ?

(make this trick once u'r map is finished, or delete it, continue ur map and remake it....)

You mean after...
Yes I suppose so... I was thinking about something different
Nevermind.

thats really cool does it show up under fog of war?

Golly so many people trying to discourage him...
I hate that about 40% of the people in SEN.

Congratulations man! That's an awesome find!
Heck I've been wondering (but never pursued a solution) how to fix that for the longest time.

My question is.... what was that about P14 being unstable?
If the map works once, won't it always work?
Or is it like... random crashes?
I thought each gameplay was the same.

Scanner sweep for p14... extremely unstable for any units preplaced or created within the time it takes for a scanner sweep to end. Make sure you know what you're doing before making a map with it. That is my advice.

Scanner for player 14 makes the game super fast, I did it on my melee map before but I'm not sure about this one

well, no, it's not fully freeze, and anyway, the building is belong to computer, so you won't have vision. (oh and I never tried to make the AI share vision to see if we can see it, thing to test)


Thanks


Well it never crashed for me since you use a bunker, but don't use supply depots or other unstabble buildings, I can't say if it NEVER crash, but i tested it some couples of times and never crashed for me (PC only !!!)


You're true (DK is never wrong lol!) but you could maybe add a Loading into the map and sometimes you have maps that players don't have own vision and it take times to apply vision, so it could be done at the same time, and it would be a real Loading lol ;p
ADDITION : And sometimes you could aslo add some copy/past/modified display text like "The house of the Haunted" by (U)Bolt_Head lol, that is the better exemple i have


Well, with all i tested, It make probably x2 while the scanner don't end but, after that its normal, i think.

'Nuther thought. I dunno if anyones tried it, or dun it before, but does putting red fire over blue fire give a good affect? Maybe Purple fire??
Wouldn't it be cool if you could have green fire...ooooooh

Mixing fires doesn't do anything because one type will overlap the other. And the closest thing to green fire is exploding rhynadons I think.

It's blood, living things have blood, not fire

lol