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UPDATE- Dont read all of this, it's a waste of a life.

It's now official... this type of game has never been played before, it's not a blood, a defense, and rpg, it has no catagory! I dont wanna detail it to much just in case i change something. First lemmie explain warhammer40000. This is a real game based in the 41st millenium. There are armies like Space Marines, Tyrandids, Eldar, Eldar, Chaos Space Marines, and so on... I hate to say it, but Starcraft completely ripped off warhammer40000!!!

There are 3 or 4 teams, (havnt decided between 3 or 4 yet!) which are in diferent forces, such as imperial army. Which contain the Imperial Guard and Space Marines. (getting me?) These armies have their own bases with a platform with beacons on it. There you will choose between things to buy, such as the [default] Space Marine Tactical Squad, Bike Squad, Heroes, and so on. All costing minerals. (kill to get minerals!) It doesn't sound very complicated, but it is. Now in the real game Warhammer40000, they all have stats. Such as

Space Marine Tactical Squad
WS---- BS---- S----T----W----I----A ----LD ---- SV
4-------4------4-----4----1--- 4----1 -----8 ------3+

What i have to do is convert this into sc form. (MATH! ARRGGG!!) Thats only HP and armor, i have to convert their weapons too! Some units such as the Siege Tank (Seige Mode), i have to make a trigger that when it gets out of siege mode it converts into 3 Ghosts, When the ghosts cloak they convert into a Siege Tank (Siege Mode). This map is going big!

About the races. In my map I am most likely going to have 6, 7, or 8 races. The reason I'm not sure is because this map should have 4 teams (Each team contains 2 players). but i need a neutral player (Like to show u what ur buying at the beacon.) But then i will have 7 players which makes it all uneven. so I'll either find a solution to my prob and have 4 teams, have 3 teams and maybe an uneven player that does alternate things, or just three teams...

The races im definately going to have are- < and > indicate teams
<Space Marines (Superhumans), Imperial Guard (Similar to todays army)>, < Tyranids (Zerg), Also Tyranids (Zerg)>, <Dark Eldar (Protoss), and Tau (Robots)> These may Change

This is kinda repeating myself but it describes the above better! just read...
Each base has en elevated platform. On these platforms are beacons, where u choose to buy squadrons, tanx, heroes, etc. (each army has its own squads, tanx, etc.) They all cost minerals. Minerals u get killing... You upgrade at ur armory and bay like usual.... Sounds good so far right?
You don't train units at buildings.

Screenshots may be slightly changed in real map.

Ignore Minerals and ore i this pic cause u dont train em, u buy em at a store. (trigger)
This file is broken. So i am removing it.

Another Place to have some battles --Imagine 2 armies rushing in there--
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I would show more of this but this is all i can fit in this one preview... Its a tactical spot for battles. Nice cover!
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Get in the trenches! just another little terrain installment that makes the game a little funner
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This file is getting big so im going to for now on put the dates...k

March 1st, 2:32 Thats better right?
I've run across a slight prob... just slight... the Dark eldar are harder to do than i thought... The tyrandis will be the easiest, cause they EXACTLY the same as the zerg, but the Protoss are a little difernt than the Dark Eldar... (In close combat, range, and size speaking...) exmp, There is a Dark Eldar unit calld the warrior and he has a rifle... the closest that fits him is a zealot... A ZEALOT IS CLOSE-COMBAT! Thats okay, its just alittle setback...

March 2nd, 7:56
today I didnt get to work on my map much but ive been researching like crazy!!! Prob is, i dont have a book (there is a book on evry race) for the Tau, but i have a friend who has a friend who has it so i could borrw it from him this weekend.... Tommorow ill try to contribute a couple hours to it and i hope u people keep coming for updates... (just once and awhile to keep this post up! ) Tomorrow ill expect more screenshots and much more updates! Ill update daily!

March 3rd 7:14
I'm changing dark eldar to eldar in my map because ive found out that eldar have more amounts of similarities then the dark eldar do to protoss... I am making tons of progress today, because i have some time on my hands...

March 4th 3:54
w00t! Its friday and that means its the weekend and the weekend is where i do my maps! By the end of this weekend, im hoping to have every unit done! Maybe more then that! One problem is im running out of units! Im out of ghosts and i need a unit with a rifle for my last army in production- Tau. If i changed it to an army without rifles... i cant find any!!! I couldnt do necrons cause they have some wierd rifle too! arg! ill find somthin out!

March 6th 2:19 yea, u read it right-- 2:19 in the morning.
Not sure if i can make the Tau. (allied with Eldar) I dont have enuff units... but then it would be unfair for the imperials get 2 diferent armies for allies... ARG!!!!

March 8th 5:05 PM
ARG! its officil i dont have enuf units to make the tau in this... so the game will be alittle lopsided. Thre is a 1% chance i can get the tau in, but fer now itll be like this-


Imperial Forces
Space Marines
Imperial Guard

Tyranids Brood
Tyranids
Tyranids

The Eldar
Eldar
Eldar

As u can see the imperials get 2 dif armies and the others get 1 a force.... but thats the way it goes... its no biggie anyway cause the Imperial Guard and Space Marines share races (terran) while the others get an entire race to themselvs... (sometimes an army can get a guy of a dif race though...)

March 8th 7:08 PM
A depressing update for me... my great almighty trenches that i have a screenshot of (ill keep it the screenshot) must be tooken out... It turns out that the AI of this game is crappier than i thought. when shot at by some1 in the trenches, the player being shot at goes all the way around, enters the trench, then shoots!!! WHATS UP WITH THAT... if u have any suggestions for nething tell me...
now im angry! time for ranting!!
okay... im better...

March 10th 9:10 PM
Races(unit and hero settings)- 70% Next 30% is easy!!!

Triggers- 0%

Terrain- 90%

Upgrade Settings- uh... im not sure.... ill edit this later...

March 15th 5:20 PM
Im still putting Moogle's and Felagunds ideas (pg3) into consideration, so im gonna finish the races today!!!

OMG!!! i just saw the tyranid guants (mega uppd lings. huge in number) rush in the on the imperial guard (weaker ghosts. huge in number) IT WAS AWESOME!!! I wish i could show u a video of it... i might get a replay in for it... CAUSE IT WAS SOOOOO COOL!!!

March 17th 6:21 PM
I think ive decided that i should make the races choosable so im gonna have to do some MAJOR renevatin... I am going to make 4 teams by giving this map to someone else and let them do the p12 thing or wtever.

Also, i would like to put alittle bit of story in the game like this- (Imperials)
"Sir, it looks like we need to get ready for some major battles. It seems the tyranids are close by and the Eldar HQ has lost it and is threatening to kill us. Orders From Marneus Calgar tell us to stay hostile. We will be recieving some back-up every once and awhile."

Now thats prety cool, right? well, if i make the user chose the teams i cant do that... but i might be able to do switches... like if

trigger
-team 1 chooses Space Marines and Eldar
-team 2 chooses Eldar and Imperial Guard
-team 3 chooses Imperial Guard and Imperial Guard
-team 4 chooses Tyrandis and Eldar

action
Set 'Switch 23'

but there are so many combinations i feel it wwould take forever to do this... plz reply

March 20 2:10
Ive made a crapload of progress... If i wasnt on SEN I would be in a MAJOR problem, but 1 of u guys could probly fix it.

Like i said i dont have a playa 12 so i need to give this map to some1 so when im done they will change all p8 people to p12. AND it seems that the editor i have (StarFire) (only avalible to me) cant disable units from being built at buildings, i need them unable to be built at buildings! So if some1 can disbale every unit from being built too, thx.

Edited. The finishing mapper has been found. Thx ShadowBrood! Of course this wont be done till i finish my map...

March 22 3:45 PM
Once again thx for all ur support all u guys!

heres my project in porgess bar form-

THESE WILL BE UPDATED DAILY! THESE-

Races
96%
[progress]99[/progress]

Terrain
85%
[progress]80[/progress] (That's if i dont demolish my terrain because of uneven bases! )

Triggers
10%
[progress]4[/progress]

Tutorial
100% (Dont download it yet, read the green.)
[progress]35[/progress]

So uh... Itll just take one long weekend and ill be done! (How fortunate am i!?!- Half a Day this thurs, day off fri, weekend, then ill play it Easter Vacation!!! W00H00!)

March 22, 4:45 PM
Forgot to say, im gonna release mini demos for yall!

(You are unable to play, just watch... but they are cool, ull see)
I think it will be done by tomorrow.

March 25, 1:41 AM
EDIT: Ran over some major tech difficulties... so the tutorial will come out tommorow... blame blizzard's AI...

March 25, 7:14 PM
You guys are probably wondering why my tutorial is not out. Its done. Im just giving it to a friend to protect it. So youll get it after hes done.

THE TUTORIAL!!!
(No such file #6854)

There is one minor bug in it, after the Imperial Guard attack the Tyranids, two small bugs happen-
-not all units go to attack
-attack ends early (ull see) HAVE FUN!

Dont bother downloading that. Im getting the unbugged version in alitlle while. Itll be great. So just ehck up on this every little while and the unbugged version should be here!!!

by the way, if u play Warhammer40000 or even Warhammer Fantasy, tell me

Many people who try to make maps based on other games don't finish. I'm not saying you won't but it sounds like a very long project.


What the hell is this information supposed to mean...

This map's category sounds a lot like Tactical Warfare...

lol, thats what im saying... i have to convert those chineise statistics into starcraft! (divide this by thise, multiply that by 3, add that to this, etc.) ur not supposed to know what they mean, im just saying i have to take 1s and 4s and turn them into sc numbers! anyway, its combined with a blood, and a tactical warfare i guess... --large amounts of units- -tactics- -crap like that- o yea, and about not finishing it, this map is the first map i actually think im gonna finish! (its not a movie, all the statistics are laid out in an easy 300 pg book! ) I want to do this so much and believe it or not im doing this really fast for some reason!

Xtreme motivation! by what? my first finished awesome map!

More power to ya Warhammer. Motivation is what I need...its what we all need. Keep us up to date on your progress!

-bearcat_fan

Im a little confused...
Anyway no one here steals maps so its ok about that.

How many races can you be?
Can you select any units to build at start or will you need to upg
your bace and build buildings to get tougher units?

Screen Shots would be nice

Sounds like a very interesting map and for its complexity you
described it very vaguely...

thx for telling me i didnt explain enuf.... Im not adding down here look at the top and ur questions will be most likely answered...

Couldn't you use Player 12 for the beacons and such?

i wish legacy but i have starfire edit and it only has 8 playaz... [mac app]

I have roughly 7,000 points worth of Space Marines. I also began to collect Lord of the Rings miniatures last winter, but I never got past the starter set. As you should well know, it costs a pretty penny to collect, build, and paint an army, not to mention the paints, knives, and cases involved.

I think it'll be the bestest map whenever its finished.

thx dude! I'm feelin some weird glow comin from it!

7,ooo... Believe it or not i really dont collect them any more and i havnt played a game in awhile (only because the people avalible to play with. gettin me?) but i know all my facts... I'm not even close to ur army... i probly have like almost 2000... or maybe even 1500... but i know the game off the top of my brain! (and i have a land raider)


--Space Marines-- --Ultramarines to be exact--

Seeing similarities between the two, it really depends on which game came out before the other. Same with chess and the Chinese version of it: the exact same number of pieces, in a playing field with the same number of columns and only 1 row of difference. There are kings, bishops, knights, and pawns that move almost exactly the same, and the rooks (or chariots in Chinese chess) move the EXACT same way. I'd say whichever one was developed later was the one that copied from the earlier.

i thought i wouldnt have to put it but warhammer40000 has been around since the 80s!!! Starcraft was like.... what? 1998?

I'm assuming your following the Space Marine Codex for the toughness, strength, intiative, etc.?


It will certainly be a unique game, but will there be other races such as the Tau or Imperial Guard? The Imperial Guard are much mroe advanced then our army to tell you the truth.. Since I play them..

Will we be able to play other races..?

Also, I'm Valhallan regiment.

I know alot of stuff off the top of my head and, the rulebook has every army, AND if i ever need to see the codex i know some people who play the armies. (like the imperial guard) Though i am using the old codex for space marines, there is no big dif. Tau, imperials, space marines, dark eldar, tyranids. All the armies im using. To see if im adding nething to the map just look at my first part, i constantly add...

Looks great, I'd love to be one of your testers.

u probly will be.... but ive only done about-- 2 armies and the basic terrain...

hmm sounds like a great game
i myself play warhammer 40k so this sounds like a great game
what teams will u have like for example space marines necrons eldar dark eldar
choas space marines tau imperial guard etc.

The armies in the map are Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Tyrandids, Tau*, and Eldar.

*I might change tau to necrons...

Already been done. Please make it better than this piece of shit.

In understand what those stats mean.... becuase i use to play warhammer, imperial guard all the way!!! anway, how do u plan to incorporate states such as leaderhsip into starcraft format?

It has 'already been done' 20 times! Thats like every other one, like a blood. mine is not near a blood. mine's diferent from every one.... units just dont pop up for no reason now... u must buy. occasionally ull get backup just in case ur dead poor and need min.

ADDITION:
the thing about leadership is, i cant... this map isnt fully like warhammer. (like taking turns) it just has the warhammer units, story, well- it all makes sense, its just not like the actual game. so leadership, will not be used. no falling back either--fast action game. gettin me? but things will be used like when you buy a space marine squad-- 10 strong space marines
when u buy an imperial guard squad-- 30 weaker imperial guard
Buy an IG Sentinal Squad-- 3 sentinals

But USUALLY special powers will be on the unit-- Eldar Ranger- Cloak (extremely limited)
eldar far seer- eldritch storm (psi storm)

Yeah, this sounds great. I've been waiting forever for someone to achully make a good WH 40k map.

Note: I play IG. (Cadian 311th)

awesome thx! I know this map will kick!
speaking of kick, Imperial Guard are really fun in this since u get 30 guys a squad!

Just so you know, you can make it turn based. Where when it's not your turn it gives your units to player 8 and when it is yout turn it gives them back. Then have a time limit on how long your turn lasts. Then you also need to do more triggering for ranged skill and to determine who wins in melee combat. This idea will be harder to do but can you can show off saying you made a complex map.