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Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-03-09 at 22:51:27
I edited all of this first topic post because I came on too strong with MY opinion. I'm more interested about your guys's.
Well, the question I'm asking is what kinds of features would make the perfect relgion for you? No killing, tongue.gif .
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-03-09 at 22:59:19
Umm... Wel you could never have a "perfect" religion. My ideal religion would probably try to agree with science. Simply because science can be backed up or refined, religions in general are pretty steadfast in veiws of the world. I like the idea of reincarnation, so I would probably include that. I also would like it so every believer were equal with one another. Most of all I would like it to be simple to understand, which no religion does an adiquate job of providing. (Not sure if this is possible, but it would be nice) biggrin.gif

BTW: Buddhism is not as good as it sounds, many followers have been known to commit self-inflicted injury to themselves and each other, to achieve nirvana. I believe that hinduism is a wonderful religion in its values, but I don't care too much for gods, and the cast system.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-09 at 23:17:30
First off Christianity does NOT teach to look down upon other religions. It teaches to help understand but to furthermore try to "recruit"(lack of a better word) members to your faith. Also, Jesus WAS real. there are accurate accounts of Him. God is also real for the obvious reason that Jesus had all his "powers". Also I TOTALLY disagree with your statements of Christianity. God is not fearful(btw wth do you mean by that?) He is a selfish God(as stated in Bible) ,however if Buddhism teaches you to be kind then why would you make those comments about other religions? Hmm. It seems someone is mixed up. I find it irritating that people like you don't do there research before they talk about stuff.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-03-09 at 23:24:06
Why do people so adamantly defend christianity, not taking any critisism, yet other religions take from christians. Many of those "recruits" would be perfectly happy finding themselves a definition of reality. An ideal religion would also be able to get converts simply by people deciding for themselves that the religion is an accurate representation of what is real.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-09 at 23:30:39
First off I am defending my religion. As I should hope anyone would do for themselves(in any case). Second of all whatever "Christian" it is your talking about who is amking fun of toher religions is falsely identifying themselves. Meaning they are not what a Christian is. If you are a Christian you do not put other religions down. I don't know any people who would do that and still identify themselves as a religious person. If anyone did do that then obviously they wouldn't be religious.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ScrollMaker on 2005-03-09 at 23:37:59
The perfect religion would be one that is true. But if it were true it wouldn't be a religion, just facts. Therefore making science the perfect religion. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-09 at 23:41:13
I first want to say, FireKame I really agree with everything you say and I hope you totally burn these guys. Also, science is TOTALLY based on non-facts. I honestly want you to name one thing that we KNOW is true and certain.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ScrollMaker on 2005-03-09 at 23:47:09
QUOTE(indecisiveman @ Mar 9 2005, 11:30 PM)
Second of all whatever "Christian" it is your talking about who is amking fun of toher religions is falsely identifying themselves. Meaning they are not what a Christian is. If you are a Christian you do not put other religions down. I don't know any people who would do that and still identify themselves as a religious person. If anyone did do that then obviously they wouldn't be religious.

That is what's called the No True Scotsman Fallacy. And it just adds to my point in the other thread that Christians are more contradictory than Christianity.

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QUOTE(indecisiveman @ Mar 9 2005, 11:41 PM)
Also, science is TOTALLY based on non-facts. I honestly want you to name one thing that we KNOW is true and certain.

Please hold while I scrape my eyeballs out, fill my empty eyesockets with gasoline, and turn my face into a bloody burning mess.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-09 at 23:48:47
Well ScrollMaker I believe you are misunderstanding me. BY saying Christian I mean you must have all of the needed requirements. Meaning the person who is putting down other religions is blastphemy. He can not be Christian if he is doing that. Anyone who does that kind of thing can not be Christian, by definition.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ScrollMaker on 2005-03-09 at 23:52:09
QUOTE(Mr.Kirbycode774 @ Mar 9 2005, 11:49 PM)
Also, you contradict yourself.  Science can't be a religion because you said religions can't be true, yet you said the perfect religion (which can't be true) would be one that is true, which greater enhances my quote above.

Yea, it was a joke. Notice the face with the tongue sticking out? I've said before, not sure if it was here, that science is not a religion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-09 at 23:52:46
Yes Kirby I did mean we need to respect other people's religions. I never said we need to thik they are right. Actually come to think of it, I believe I stated the opposite. I said we must try to convert people(found that word) into our own religion. that religion being Christianity.


P.S. Kirby it's me Chaos_Blade[Sc] angel.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-09 at 23:54:57
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An example of a stupid religion would be Christianity.

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Why do people so adamantly defend christianity, not taking any critisism, yet other religions take from christians.

That hurt me. For real. We're not all a bunch of blood sucking nazis.

Christianity is working fine for me. Don't bash Christianity based on the people who follow it...please... sad.gif

I really can't say why I like it, mainly because Jesus is a cool guy and what not, but the religon seemed to speak to me more than other religons, and I have delved into other religons.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-09 at 23:57:38
Since you are here I will ask you this now FireKame. Do you attend a Church of Christ? Also, I must say your words mean a lot. It is nice to find another person who is Christian and actually follows the Bible instead of bursting out with uncontrollable blastphemy. biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-03-09 at 23:59:53
QUOTE(ScrollMaker @ Mar 9 2005, 08:52 PM)
Yea, it was a joke. Notice the face with the tongue sticking out? I've said before, not sure if it was here, that science is not a religion.
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Oh, my bad. Usually, when I use tongue.gif I use it for like "hehe",or for "i just nailed you", but I've never used it for sarcasm. tongue.gif

But you do understand the problem of stating that the best religion is the true one, then saying that no religion can be true right?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-10 at 00:00:39
Do you mean am I mormon? No, I attend a Covenant Church (swedish denomination, if it helps any)

Blasphemy. hehehe...funny story there. perhaps another time ni?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-10 at 00:02:59
Uhh Mormon? Church of Christ is STRICTLY Christians only, lol. If that's what you meant....I wasn't totally sure. BTW: We share same B-day. I find that rather strange shocking.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-10 at 00:07:34
Church of Christ? gah my bad...I was thinking latter day saints...it's only 10 too. Forgive me. I've never heard of that denomination...are you part of it?

I was thinking about it and if protestant christianity were to bash on anyone it would probably be the mormon church, but that is still rare in my opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-10 at 00:10:58
Oh I see. Well to tell you the truth, I only believe in one type of Christianity...Christianity. Meaning I don't believe Catholics are Christians or Mormons and so forth. And no Church of Christ is a chain of churches for Christians. It is not a sub-religion of Christianity. Hope that clears some stuff up? dontgetit.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ScrollMaker on 2005-03-10 at 00:23:29
QUOTE(Mr.Kirbycode774 @ Mar 9 2005, 11:59 PM)
But you do understand the problem of stating that the best religion is the true one, then saying that no religion can be true right?

Well, I guess that's why there's no best religion, because they're not true! wink.gif No offense to anyone. I'm just making a joke.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-10 at 00:47:26
Umm I don't remember arguing with anybody? If you can point out a spot where we have argued I would appreciate it. Also, I know what your topic was but let's just face it, there IS no perfect religion. However, there ius a closest religion. i have found that religion to be Christianity, iof course it may be different with everyone.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-03-10 at 01:45:07
What are you talking about if me and scroll were given guns we'd kill each other??? We'd be smart enough to remove the bullets and just club each other with the backside. happy.gif

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I WANTED TO MAKE A PERFECT RELIGION. religions are all a way of life. we all belive something that helps us get through tough times, that is what I call a relgion...
Speaking about religion isn't taboo... Speaking about religion ignorant of possible responses is taboo.

I suggest you edit the beginning and make it sound more like a hypothetical situation instead "creating your own religion". Why else do you think I made this rude, insensitive, slam upon you as the 4th post? I did it because I don't want anymore false stereotypical propaganda that morality is relative and religion is just a "way to choose life". There's already enough of that. disgust.gif

Do it something like, "If you were a god and were going to create the perfect religion for your people, how would you do it?" With a hypothetical situation, we can delete all our previous posts that came from how you presented the old introduction and make it all nice and joyful again. smile.gif happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TSoldier_Wol[f] on 2005-03-10 at 17:25:00
I say there is no censored.gif ing perfect religition, I just say that God was just made up by some censored.gif ing loser just to be famous so that other comrades won't forget about him. Just trying to get some attention.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-03-10 at 18:20:51

The perfect religion would be one that is true. But if it were true it wouldn't be a religion, just facts. Therefore making science the perfect religion. tongue.gif


Since when is science a religion ... I'm pretty sure it is a subject / study ...

Like the different braches of sciences like geology and climatology ect... I have never seen a religiology lol!!

I say there is no censored.gif ing perfect religition, I just say that God was just made up by some censored.gif ing loser just to be famous so that other comrades won't forget about him. Just trying to get some attention.

Ok then explain to me how Muhammed from Islam was made up? OR Buddah? Or? Jesus? They were all real people.. Now i know this is a sensitive subject whch causes flame wars... So im not going to go much further into that..


The perfect religion.. Hm... would probably be Mostly Catholic values.. With some of the fat guy's values (Buddah)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ScrollMaker on 2005-03-10 at 18:44:56
QUOTE(n2o-Simpsons @ Mar 10 2005, 06:20 PM)
Since when is science a religion ... I'm pretty sure it is a subject / study ...

Yea, it was a joke and even after that I said science is not a religion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-03-10 at 22:31:28
QUOTE(n2o-Simpsons @ Mar 10 2005, 04:20 PM)
The perfect religion would be one that is true. But if it were true it wouldn't be a religion, just facts. Therefore making science the perfect religion.  tongue.gif
Since when is science a religion ... I'm pretty sure it is a subject / study ...

Like the different braches of sciences like geology and climatology ect... I have never seen a religiology lol!!

I say there is no  censored.gif ing perfect religition, I just say that God was just made up by some  censored.gif ing loser just to be famous so that other comrades won't forget about him. Just trying to get some attention.

Ok then explain to me how Muhammed from Islam was made up? OR Buddah? Or? Jesus? They were all real people.. Now i know this is a sensitive subject whch causes flame wars... So im not going to go much further into that..
The perfect religion.. Hm... would probably be Mostly Catholic values..  With some of the fat guy's values (Buddah)
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Nice man. thats what I think. Except most of the 10 commandments can be condensed into like 4 tongue.gif and i like the idea of being simple is in my "perfect" religion. This is good, keep going people smile.gif
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