Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corporal on 2005-03-21 at 17:43:32
But really, if even a single female posts here, then I will wear a "Hello Kitty" avatar for the rest of my stay here. Fo' reals.
Anyway. Quite simply, I love maps and, if given one, I will examine it closely for longer than most people take to clean their ears. In my opinion the three key elements needed to make a game nostalgic are an epic story/emotional connections, superb music, and a captivating environment. Even with two of those being nothing more than mediocre, if the third is executed well enough then you'll have players dying of nostalgia five years down the road. A good example of a game covering all three of these is Majora's Mask - Though short, MM packed quite a punch. I even ended up buying both the OSTs and the orchestral arrangements off eBay... >_>
*ahem* Well, yeah, you get the idea. StarCraft also had all three elements, but for now I'm going to focus on environment/landscape. In SC, one of the selling environmental aspects of the game is that anyone could easily shape their own landscape from scratch and then build upon it with structures, units, and even some programming and an RPG storyline. This is especially important in multiplayer games, since by allowing people to create more than just a normal RTS you can keep the people's interest simply by letting their imaginations run wild.
However, few people actually bother to create real, natural art out of their landscapes. Most of the time they're symmetrical and geometric, and if not then the landscape is still quite lazily shaped.
I'm different. I've always tried to make my maps look as natural as possible in their construction. While that admittedly doesn't always end up with the most balanced of maps, I've still put more thought into my landscape than most - Though admittedly not as much effort, since once I get started [always the hard part] it all just seems to flow out on its own. But as long as I'm not spending all my time worrying about symmetry, I'm content.
I've created many StarCraft maps since I first got the game. Most have gone unfinished, and almost all of the ones I did finish were lost to a format. Of the ones that have survived, I still consider only one to have any luster left in it at all - The Tarsonis Highlands map I made probably two or more years ago. You can see it for yourself under the "maps" link in my sig.
But now that I look at it now, I see several mistakes - There's a lot of empty space in the top right and center-left-center, and the red player has considerably more distance between his closest enemies than anyone else does. The landscape is still decent, but I just had the feeling I could've done better.
My interest in mapmaking was rekindled when one of my friends at school suggested I distribute a copy of StarCraft, since his and Alex's discs both broke. Now I didn't feel like burning two discs and figuring out how to make a working copy of the StarCraft disc itself, but I did have the idea to distribute the spawn instead so that we could play online sometime. [skip ahead: we still haven't gotten around to playing online yet. >_< ]
I decided that none of the maps I had were suitable for a multiplayer game of any kind [at least not by my standards], so I went out to make a new one. It took me a while, but I was very happy and surprised at the results. See for yourself:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/cor...che/Islands.jpg
Thus my desire to create a map reflective of my abilities was finally fulfilled, and I had realized my potential. I want to create even more maps like this one, even if they are never to be enjoyed by others - I just want to sculpt the land to my will and let it out in all its elegance and glory.
And there ya have it - My introduction. If you read through the entire thing, then I'll ship you your box of cookies via overnight delivery. =P
Anyway. Quite simply, I love maps and, if given one, I will examine it closely for longer than most people take to clean their ears. In my opinion the three key elements needed to make a game nostalgic are an epic story/emotional connections, superb music, and a captivating environment. Even with two of those being nothing more than mediocre, if the third is executed well enough then you'll have players dying of nostalgia five years down the road. A good example of a game covering all three of these is Majora's Mask - Though short, MM packed quite a punch. I even ended up buying both the OSTs and the orchestral arrangements off eBay... >_>
*ahem* Well, yeah, you get the idea. StarCraft also had all three elements, but for now I'm going to focus on environment/landscape. In SC, one of the selling environmental aspects of the game is that anyone could easily shape their own landscape from scratch and then build upon it with structures, units, and even some programming and an RPG storyline. This is especially important in multiplayer games, since by allowing people to create more than just a normal RTS you can keep the people's interest simply by letting their imaginations run wild.
However, few people actually bother to create real, natural art out of their landscapes. Most of the time they're symmetrical and geometric, and if not then the landscape is still quite lazily shaped.
I'm different. I've always tried to make my maps look as natural as possible in their construction. While that admittedly doesn't always end up with the most balanced of maps, I've still put more thought into my landscape than most - Though admittedly not as much effort, since once I get started [always the hard part] it all just seems to flow out on its own. But as long as I'm not spending all my time worrying about symmetry, I'm content.
I've created many StarCraft maps since I first got the game. Most have gone unfinished, and almost all of the ones I did finish were lost to a format. Of the ones that have survived, I still consider only one to have any luster left in it at all - The Tarsonis Highlands map I made probably two or more years ago. You can see it for yourself under the "maps" link in my sig.
But now that I look at it now, I see several mistakes - There's a lot of empty space in the top right and center-left-center, and the red player has considerably more distance between his closest enemies than anyone else does. The landscape is still decent, but I just had the feeling I could've done better.
My interest in mapmaking was rekindled when one of my friends at school suggested I distribute a copy of StarCraft, since his and Alex's discs both broke. Now I didn't feel like burning two discs and figuring out how to make a working copy of the StarCraft disc itself, but I did have the idea to distribute the spawn instead so that we could play online sometime. [skip ahead: we still haven't gotten around to playing online yet. >_< ]
I decided that none of the maps I had were suitable for a multiplayer game of any kind [at least not by my standards], so I went out to make a new one. It took me a while, but I was very happy and surprised at the results. See for yourself:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/cor...che/Islands.jpg
Thus my desire to create a map reflective of my abilities was finally fulfilled, and I had realized my potential. I want to create even more maps like this one, even if they are never to be enjoyed by others - I just want to sculpt the land to my will and let it out in all its elegance and glory.
And there ya have it - My introduction. If you read through the entire thing, then I'll ship you your box of cookies via overnight delivery. =P
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-03-21 at 18:28:53
Welcome to Staredit Network.
Very long post
for a welcome post.
Very long post
for a welcome post.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corporal on 2005-03-21 at 18:37:37
QUOTE(KaboomHahahein @ Mar 21 2005, 07:28 PM)
Welcome to Staredit Network.
Very long post for a welcome post.
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Very long post
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Perhaps.
Too bad I don't put that much effort into political debates. Bah, I'm too lazy to follow politics anyway.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)MinigameEast on 2005-03-21 at 18:45:08
whoa girl, you didnt have to post that long of a post, we all love ya but holy this is the first time i read this much.
my brain hurts, time to get some advil
oh ya welcome to staredit.net
my brain hurts, time to get some advil
oh ya welcome to staredit.net
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Axellraff on 2005-03-21 at 19:44:29
CheezzzWizzzz...Watatowwww, big text!
But Welcome to StarEdit Network!!!
But Welcome to StarEdit Network!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2005-03-21 at 20:21:03
Congrats Corporal on making 2 mistakes.:
1. Looking at the garbage forum and the map making assistance forum to see if there are any females. (RexyRex and Firekame are females, so where is your "hello kitty" avatar?
)
2. Well, this isn't really a mistake, but congrats on getting people to say something else besides their usual posts
.
Welcome to SEN. If you are staying, can I take your order? Your bill will come to a total of one pie.
1. Looking at the garbage forum and the map making assistance forum to see if there are any females. (RexyRex and Firekame are females, so where is your "hello kitty" avatar?
)2. Well, this isn't really a mistake, but congrats on getting people to say something else besides their usual posts
.Welcome to SEN. If you are staying, can I take your order? Your bill will come to a total of one pie.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corporal on 2005-03-21 at 20:30:27
QUOTE(SA_Max71 @ Mar 21 2005, 09:21 PM)
Congrats Corporal on making 2 mistakes.:
1. Looking at the garbage forum and the map making assistance forum to see if there are any females. (RexyRex and Firekame are females, so where is your "hello kitty" avatar?)
1. Looking at the garbage forum and the map making assistance forum to see if there are any females. (RexyRex and Firekame are females, so where is your "hello kitty" avatar?
)Ah, but they have to find this thread first.
^__________^
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MidnightGladius on 2005-03-21 at 21:25:33
Don't worry. As of the shoutbox that I'm reading right about now, they're on their way
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-03-21 at 22:18:27
[center] *nuclearrabbit calls Rexy/FK over...*
Welcome to SEN, by any chance, would you like a pomegranate?[/center]
Welcome to SEN, by any chance, would you like a pomegranate?[/center]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by pekkel_the_duck on 2005-03-21 at 22:22:59
I skimmed it, so I should get half a cookie. 
And yea, I know of 2 other girls who post here, dunno about others who might be. *shifly eyes*
And yea, I know, I didn't do my usual welcome, so no one go OMGWTFTHISAINTPEKKEL911BANHIMADMINS!!oneone!!11one!!1
-PeAcE
And yea, I know of 2 other girls who post here, dunno about others who might be. *shifly eyes*
And yea, I know, I didn't do my usual welcome, so no one go OMGWTFTHISAINTPEKKEL911BANHIMADMINS!!oneone!!11one!!1
-PeAcE
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2005-03-22 at 00:44:18
"OMGWTFTHISAINTPEKKEL911BANHIMADMINS!!oneone!!11one!!1"
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sorry, I just couldn't resist.
*Max is still waiting for Corporal to change his avatar.*
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[/center]sorry, I just couldn't resist.
*Max is still waiting for Corporal to change his avatar.*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by pekkel_the_duck on 2005-03-22 at 00:51:08
Now now, we don't need another Camo incident. Again. It's one of those jokes that are only funny once.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-03-22 at 20:54:33
Omg...it has begun...look at my signature.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-23 at 00:25:07
QUOTE(Corporal @ Mar 21 2005, 03:43 PM)
If you read through the entire thing, then I'll ship you your box of cookies via overnight delivery. =P
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Only if they have they're special.
now put on the damn hello kitty ava.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2005-03-23 at 00:29:49
OMGWTFTHISAINTPEKKEL911BANHIMADMINS!!oneone!!11one!!1
Join in or die! Break it and you will die!
Join in or die! Break it and you will die!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by pekkel_the_duck on 2005-03-23 at 00:32:51
No need to search, I've got one right here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corporal on 2005-03-23 at 16:50:44
Alright, alright, I'll put on the damn avatar...
Now where do you guys live? I need to know so's I can send your "cookies".
Now where do you guys live? I need to know so's I can send your "cookies".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-03-23 at 18:09:19
Ooh! What kind of cookies? 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-03-23 at 18:18:25
*FireKame finds yoshis mailing address
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BLISSARD[VdD] on 2005-03-23 at 18:20:11
May that be the longest post?
thats too much text,
, luckily I didnt read any, lol hahahah so I didnt waste my time and get a headache.
welcome to staredit.net
well I am new too I joined like months ago but didnt visit the website, but now I start to visit the website more often.
I live next to your house, bring some cookies over. Thanks! 
thats too much text,
, luckily I didnt read any, lol hahahah so I didnt waste my time and get a headache.welcome to staredit.net
well I am new too I joined like months ago but didnt visit the website, but now I start to visit the website more often.
I live next to your house, bring some cookies over. Thanks! Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-03-23 at 19:51:06
QUOTE(BLISSARD[VdD] @ Mar 23 2005, 06:20 PM)
May that be the longest post?
thats too much text, , luckily I didnt read any, lol hahahah so I didnt waste my time and get a headache.
welcome to staredit.net
well I am new too I joined like months ago but didnt visit the website, but now I start to visit the website more often.
I live next to your house, bring some cookies over. Thanks!
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thats too much text,
, luckily I didnt read any, lol hahahah so I didnt waste my time and get a headache.welcome to staredit.net
well I am new too I joined like months ago but didnt visit the website, but now I start to visit the website more often.
I live next to your house, bring some cookies over. Thanks! [right][snapback]171096[/snapback][/right]
Sorry, but you must read the whole post to be eligable to get the cookies. If you did not you are not eligable. Read it now!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2005-03-25 at 09:00:22
Oh, Pekkel! http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?idwusg17ep3k 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MyStIcAl-MySt on 2005-03-25 at 20:07:55
Uhm send cookies up to lets see, Ontario Canada and leave them floating in Lake Ontario, 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-03-27 at 00:24:10
hello Coporal.
would you like an acid bath?
Soothing
OMGWTFTHISAINTPEKKEL911BANHIMADMINS!!oneone!!11one!!1
would you like an acid bath?
Soothing
OMGWTFTHISAINTPEKKEL911BANHIMADMINS!!oneone!!11one!!1
Report, edit, etc...Posted by jukuren on 2005-03-27 at 03:05:40
Hmm..That looks a bit more than what I posted when I started, lol, but anyway, welcome to SEN! 