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• Religion should be personal.
• Religion should not cause ANY type or form of violence.
• Religious opinions shouldn't be turned into facts(Eg: one religion is more accurate than another, one is more superior, etc.)
• Religion doesn't need all these topics.

Whatever it is, keep it personal. There's no way you should be making retarded threads about "Belief vs Belief", "Belief contradicts itself", or "About belief".

These opinion-threads should all belong in the garbage forum.


This is my formal rant. Thank you.

- Religion is Personal, but it is also very important to everyday societies
- It shouldn't but it does
- True, that's what none of us have been doing here so far
- Religion is a very controversial serious issue so it does deserve this many topics.

There's no need for your retarded remarks over perfectly fine religious threads. So keep your comments to yourself.

Again, religion is serious so it's perfectly fine here. If you have a problem with that, i suggest you leave.

Religion is not important to run a healthy society.

"Serious"...
Religion is a little too serious. That's what I'm trying to say. Explain what's so serious about a fictional character named "God" in some fictional story called "The Holy Bible"? You may believe I'm mocking some religions, but they are just hard facts. I know nothing can overwhelm your beliefs, because a belief is just something that can't change.

You're saying I should keep my comments to myself, when there are hundreds of "comments" already in these "religion threads", some of them (comments) made by yourself.

Again, religion shouldn't be serious. In fact, it's almost a joke to me, and I'm being nice about it.


I'm not talking only to MillenniumArmy.

How about a compromise? If there are more than three open topics about religion at anytime, a moderator closes some of the less used ones? Or something along those linse. I agree that we're being flooded with religious topics, but if they want to talk about it... well, it is for Serious Discussion. Let's just try to minimize the amount we have.

Religion is a very very serious issue in many countries around the world. It doesn't mean the countries run soley through it but they live by it and many things happen because of religion (good and bad).

Religion is serious because first of all, "God" is not fictional. He's the creator of the universe and all of us. Secondly "The Holy Bible" is not a fictional story. It's a series of books written by many people thousands of years apart. It's a way of keeping track of event's/teachings. No one can overwhelm anyone's beliefs but there's nothing wrong with expressing our beliefs or perhaps, widening each other's PoVs.

By comments i mean your rants. At least the ones in the other threads say (or try) to say things that actually pertain to the topic. Yours didn't say anything.

If it's a joke to you, then fine. But just because only you think it's a joke doesn't mean all religious topics should be moved to the garbage forums. And again, if you truly have a problem with this, just leave it.


That's up to the moderators, not us.

But why just religion? What about all those other ones out there on SEN such as in the gaming forums. There are PLENTY of threads in which all are basically talking about the same games. Why leave those the way they are but not religion?

Both religion and all those dumb best of or repeat topics should be limited. There is no need to tell someone that you believe in something you've never seen to someone who doesn't also believe in it already, stop wasting your time. He was just making a suggestion, no reason to comment on it. I have to agree with Death on this, his points are valid and don't really negetivly affect any relgious users of this site unless they have some kind of disorder that means they have to spam their religion everywhere or they'll become deeply depressed. But whatever, if you and everyone else think you need a dozen topics full of the same ole same ole by all means. Just don't expect people to be happy when their new creative topic hits the bottem of list because all the other threads were just bumped up again.

Again, just a religious belief, denial of facts, trying to fit a ridiculous explanation into an area that can not be explained...


My post was the start of a thread, the start of a new topic. But you deny the facts, so you didn't see me say anything.


Like you said...

That would mean I am entitled to rant as much as I like, because I believe religion is becoming ridiculous now.

I have to disagree with Deathknight about this.
True, there's plenty more topics then there should be, but you yourself are sounding like a 'The Bible is true, there is no other possibility at all, and my opinion is absolute, because it's not opinion, but it's fact' Christians(no offense to anyone).

You're saying we're being bad by your definition of 'serious'.
But many people would disagree with your definition, and, being a community, 'serious' is defined by the public.


If the members want it, and it doesn't degrade the forums, then it serves the forums good. If it serves the forums good, the Admins want it. If the Admins want it, then the Moderators will act upon it, most likely. So basicaly, the Moderators work to public interest, as a side-product of their, well, moderating. And if that includes such a policy, then it could be done.

Oh ok so now you say it's a fact that religion is balony. Facts are always backed up by proofs. Where are yours?


Then either you should change the thread title to something else that isn't immature and make you look extremely stupid and take out your "rant" in the second part of the post. Because those are really what's making your post stupid and useless.


Your list of reasons in the first post is all you needed. That's good enough

Right here:



You said I should leave, but maybe you should? If you think it's immature, stupid, and useless, then leave. The topic title has everything to do with this.

That's not proof; that's just a vague generalization. It still doesn't back up your point as to why you think religion is a denial of facts. Now tell me, WHAt facts is religion denying? And give me specific points, not vague generalizations.



Clearly i have no problem with this. But im just trying to help you here, make you not look stupid and look like a 14 year old, not a 7 year old, but ok if you want me to leave, i shall rest my case. You go ahead and continue to make a fool of urself.

Riiight... May I remind you some people REALLY believes there IS a superior being over there ruling us all? You're just contradicting yourself with "religion should be personnal" and this. You're taking this ranting occasion to try and dismantle religious beliefs of other people...

Don't take me wrong, though, I'm with you. Too many religious topics going in circle and spawning in the SD forum.

in Medieval world, religion A allowed a faster evolution (crusades) today the religion slowed down our evolution. terrorism exists because of the religion

Ok, there might be a whole bunch of religious topics going around. But as long as they're actually going somewhere and not getting repetitive or out of control, then it's cool. So far the moderators have some a good job in locking some of those topics that indeed were going out of control or stupid.

I'm not speaking of flamming or spamming.

I'm speaking of threads that keep bringing back the same discussions again and again. It's always gonna end up being a war of people that thinks religion is serious, and people that think religion is just another scam.

Debating religion is like trying to slice air... You know you're doing something about it, but you just can't prove your facts (on EITHER sides...).

As insane as I think religion is, there would still be terrorism, even if it were not for religion. Although, true, there would be less.

EDIT: Something should be done...
I wouldn't call it a contradiction. This is about putting a stop to all the threads about religion, and has nothing to do with weather peopel beleive it is personal.

Technically, you cannot prove anything - you cannot truly prove that you exist, that the computer in front of you exists, that the floor beneath your feet exists, et cetera. It's all theory, you can only go by logical assumptions (par exemple: you can see, feel, smell, hear - sense - your chair, so it probably exists).

Also, I don't think you quite understand the definitions of the words 'vague' or 'generalization.'
He didn't say that.

Except for you:


He's immature, and yet you're calling him stupid, and said this topic was 'retarded,' though we've since established that it is not. Nice.
Honestly, it's because religion is insane. You say that the universe was created this way, and that life exists because of this, and that everything works the way it does because of this, even though it is just one extremely unlikely possibility out of an infinite number of others, and that you believe this because someone told you so.

Right now, alot of the terrorism activities out there are incited not because of our religion, but of us being America and the "intrusion" of palestine by israelis.

Nah. Terrorism isn't started out of religion, isn't started out of the instrusion, whatever. Terrorism happens for two reasons: One being that people hate other people quite a bit, but some of them can't annihiliate the enemy. Two being that it's a cheap and effective way to fight an enemy, by constantly keeping them in fear, you control them, or atleast mess with their heads. Now what causes hate? A difference in opinion, a feeling that you've been wronged, or simply bigotry, religion is only used for justification, it doesn't start the hate, unless it's teaching bigotry.

or their is extremist ! Which is some one who might bend the rules a little or something or interperate a different way and go kill people that arent your religion and think you will be higher in the caste system. .(according to Islam (i think))

im probly wrong about this but it's hard to remember the exact definition

I think I'm a little bit late but here is my thoughts on the religion threads.

They are pointless unless we are actually discussion, debating about whether or not something is true is an unwinnable debate because neither side will give up. The idea of God is too unlikely to an atheist (as well as a lack of evidence, since I am one), thus they will never accept any scenario in which god takes place. Problem is, all the theist people's worlds revolves around a god and the two cannot be connected. Therefore, people will not be able to understand each other fully and the threads will simply be full of nonstop articles of stuff that people have said trillions of times before.

Now to laff at some of what you guys said.


It's not very important at all. At least not in our everyday socieity. Tell me, would you die from your work simply because you stopped believing in god? I'll give you a hint, I'm alive.


No it's not and no it doesn't. The only serious outside world discussion with religion is the evolution and creation thing being taught at schools.


The part I bolded is spam (sort of). And it's an opinion. Opinion doesn't equal fact.


Actually, dk's entire point here was there are too many threads on religion. Actually, what he's doing is simply defending himself from the attacks by people who think religion is so important that it deserves 4000 threads.

It's denying the fact that there are no facts so it tries to create the REAL vague "facts" about something that simply can not be explained. Like the creation of the earth for example. No human could witness it anyway, so how does some book become factual? I don't see any proof behind religion and gods and such, so there is reason to believe it doesn't exist.

If you're sick of religion threads, then why did you make this? This is a religion thread, so you're just making things worse. Also, I don't think it's your place to say if "God" is real or not.

I dont think u understand anything of what i was saying so please refrain from saying things if you dont know what im saying.


Yes he did. Go back and read


I'm not saying mine is more right than his. I'm just saying it's what i believe.


Again you misinterprete what im saying. Calling someone stupid and saying what someone is doing makes him look stupid are not the same things. I didn't say this topic was stupid; just the "rant" he did was stupid.


Ok so now you're being discriminative against "insane" things, just like black people being discriminated against back in the old days. Nice


Right, not really in our society, but in many others around the world.


The huge controversy about religion is whether it's true or not


Opinion isn't spam. This is spam


What do you mean it's denying the fact that there are no facts. It never said that anywhere in the Bible.

Little do you all know, this has just turned into another religion thread.

I have every right to. It's an opinion is it not?


It sais "God created the Earth". Boom. Right there. How was this written then? Did God come down and tell people about it?


You turned opinion into fact.


And you're right, another religion thread here, and also becomming ridiculous...