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Hey all...

I was just wondering, why is it that more people will prefer maps with childish names than one with a more grown up name. For example, Cat and Mouse, does that get any more like a 2 year old thought up the title, or what? I mean, why not call it baby and bottle? Maybe this is just me, but it is driving me insane. To make a good map do I have to call it something like "kitty defence" or "frog RPG." All I would have to do from their is name the characters stupid names, like kat. That would be a hit, right?
Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems that games like Cat and Mouse should be less loved (I know another game, but forgot, o-well).

flaming_X

HOW DARE YOU MAKE FUN OF THE CLASSIC CATS AND MICES!!!!!1

When it first came out, it was my favourite game. When other's ruined it with totally unbalanced versions, I started to dislike it. x(

It used to be an awsome game until the stupid versions.

Never actually knew the original versions of C&M... Anyone care to show me? I have always known them as unbalanced z... Maybe that's why I never liked them.

What versions are the most balanced?

Anyway.... Cat an mouse? CHILDISH? HAHAHA! Funny one... Frog RPG is much much more childish in my oppinion anyway. Cats & mice says it all in its name: Frog RPG doesn't say ANYTHING on what the RPG is, except it may somehow includes frogs in it...

I lost the original some year ago... The only thing closest to the original I can get is a really good CPU one.

The versions with JUST cat and mouse are the great ones usually. Once you get into ants, bird, dog etc, it all turns crappy and unbalenced.

I remember playing it when it was new. Ya it was pretty cool, but it wasn't the name of the map or the quilty of the game it was the enjoyment of outsmarting your opponent, like "scream"

Although that map is made pretty good.

The name is just something people can identify with.

Cat and Mouse was a great game, although I have never played Frog RPG, if anyone has it or knows were i can get it please let me know.

They were ment to be "examples" of good map names (always on flaming_x's oppinion...)

I doupt it actually exists.

hmmmm im just wondering its "Cat n Mouse Winter" the oringinal version?
because i think that version is one of the best because is very balanced between cat and mouse.
(Just my opinion)

BTW, My opinion of Childish maps:

I like defense maps. I really do. When Sunken D 10 way came out, I had a few good games.

Then, all of a sudden, many more versions of it poped up. Some even EXACTLY THE SAME THING except for a unit change (and creator name change of course).

The levels dont change, the terrain dont change. Yet its created by someone else?

THATS my defintion of childish maps. No one wants to play it because its exactly the same thing, and mapper wana-bes dont want to put any real effort into it.

Actually people DO play these maps. That's how good maps get lost in history. I used to play Matrix defence Zerg A LOT (I really mean it), before, but I stopped, some other crappy versions came out, and it dissapeared...

I don't see how you can explain we can't find the "original" maps online and can find 2364 other versions (considering your theory of "modified maps sux0rz")

You have just defined my major Psychotic Annoyance... Version People.... hahahaha... but i agree with that most of the time people who alter the name slightly and maybe 1 unit but give themselves complete credit are 9 year olds looking for a kick... which is basically.. a childish map.

This is why people should protect maps. There are always 23859 new version, and in the end, you realize the best version was the first one, which you do not have or cant find anymore.

I've just been inspired to post some of the orginal maps I've seen on bnet onto our DLDB.

You know thats not a bad idea, could even go as far as making a section just for originals but i will search through what i got and see if i can find some originals to add.

[glow]I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!!![/glow]
Going off everyone elses topics, sure people barely modify and claim it as their own, but I make my maps, and they get nice ratings might I say, and no one cares. I also protect (I'm not retarded). But, it is just the fact that no one really cares about who made the map anymore, it is about who will win! WTF am I babbling about?? CRAP!! I'm so far off topic

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Try making advanced "childish" maps. It's pretty fun. As for me, C&M will always be a classic and I try and make my own "balanced" ones. The problem is, Cats have always had a bad reputation, so people will not join their team. EVER! I remember when D maps were good, I remember playing Matrix 3 Way 4 Race, which was a great classic. Then came all the lurker defences... which made me lose interest... Anyone remember RUNNING OF THE SQUIRRELS! or Archon Tag? Those were old times... I think Archon Tag is a classic as well... I don't see why people think they are childish. There is NO such thing as CHILDISH maps on bnet! Every game you play will involve sc units, triggers, etc. How can it be childish? The name isn't the game, but people seem to forget that. C&M is NOT a childish game. It's a classic, that even today is played. I mean the C&M genre is so damn popular I have like 30 versions of it, it's crazy.

Yea i remember the Archon Tag maps. And the Matrix line of maps were good as well. My favorite out of them was still Matrix Circle Defence or Matrix Sideline.

Its just a map name plus the game is about strategy i dont think children would know about strategy, so how is it childish?

Its considered slightly childisn because your incorperating the game of Tag into a startcraft killing fest, of course by putting it in SC and you cant really tag your opponents but instead killing them... well you get the point...

Honestly, maps cant be childish. We wouldn't hear of those if no one played em.

They can be, infact, I think people prefere childish maps just because they are easy to play (rules aren't to complexe, if you know what I mean). I mean, I made a really fun map called TTD (The Tower Defence) and because no one took the time to look around for the towers, which are what give you points, no one understood it. It was fairly simple, just that it wasn't simple enough for people. After that, I tried another map called Marine Rush. In it, all you are is one marine with 25-100 other marines that are allied with you. All you did was run to the center and try and help your team win. If the computer, the other allied marines, died, you lost that round. (Just so people know, it had a bunch of easter eggs). IT WAS SIMPLE!!!! I think, more childish the map name and idea is, the more people like it...

Yeah, now-days, Most of the People in Battle.net thinks All maps are just to build buildings or units to kill. No No No !

Briefings... Yes, Briefings are one of the most important part of the maps. Yeah, the colorful explosions and animations are really cool, but I think Briefings should have at least part of the 'How to Play' Part. But Right before the Game Starts, People go "SKIP B!!!!!" ...

Some of the Map I made are quite simple. For Example, One of my maps were : SlayerS_`BoxeR` Control (Yeah, I'm a Melee Fan too). All you had to do was try and Control your units to kill your enemies and then go to the next level and so on, but People were like : "Wow, this is gayer than Micro Challenge!" ........

Enough of me Talking now,

~Zzang

First off, It depends how you use the breifing! I mean, I do a nice colorful explosion of a begining, but it always gets to something like controls/point of the game! That is what the breifing is for, and on your map, that sucks man, sorry!

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