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Recently, I've met many people who somehow "realized" that they are "genius" in one way or another. I see this at school, in the public, even on SEN sometimes. I have also noticed that everyone is obsessed with being "correct". It wasn't like this last summer. Most of the time these people are pretty normal in terms of intelligence. It gets more concentrated every day and it forces a lot of people to have to worry about being right and/or understanding what everyone is talking about. I was wondering if this was a good thing or a bad thing in terms of daily life. (This topic may sound a little mean, but it can't be posted otherwise. So I at least didn't mention any names.)

This happens ALL the time on SEN and life as well.

Three words sums this up: Point of View. We all have different PoVs; there's really nothing we can do about it. You see things one way, they see things another. Both can have discrepancies on large scales and can even be contradictory. Just like Bush and Kerry. Many see Bush better, other's see Kerry better. One group of people might be more insane than the other; the other might be more logical than the other. It can also be flipped around too.

And yea, people are stubborn as well. Like when people get into an argument over anything on SEN, no one likes to "lose." No one wants to be the first person to be "defeated" by ceasing to post. So even when people know they're wrong, they nevertheless try to find any possible excuse to keep their momentum going. That's just life works... unfortunately.

But the thing is, that isn't the point of life. The point of life is to live and produce enough offspring to replace you. Politics, Science, Religion, etc. is there to make it better for you and for you to be able to organize yourself with other humans to work together. So ironically people thinking they are smart, is what caused people to think they are smart.
The funny part is that sometimes other people bring harm to individuals who don't agree with them, so Politics, Science, Religion. Something that is supposed to help your life, actually made it worse.

You learn that lesson in Metal Gear Solid 1. (Im not joking...)

Anyway, i know what you mean. It's annoying, especially when the person who lost either

-Starts completely rambling on about how your post is stupid
-Distorts what you have said

all hail psuedo-intellectuals! Go to hell, idiots!

sorry. My sis and I were talking about this; humans are under the illusion that we master everything, either through religon or science. But it is proven that no human (yet) can calculate where an electron is going and how fast it is going; it can only do one or the other. When we cannot conquer the smallest particle; how can we claim ourselves intelligent?

But this leaves room to discuss the folly behind size. The electron is no in a god-like state; bigger than life itself because it is the giver of all life. Without them, we wouldn't be. Everything has them, we would not exist without them. When you touch something you are not touching it, you are touching its electrons. Of course, it could be argued that it is owned by the object, therefore it is that object, therefore you are touching it, but then you go back to the beginning logic. Perhaps this circular logic is what is behind everything. Perhaps the only way to enlightment is to realize that no matter what you do, you will complete the circle and start all over. Only by realizing that, and grasping it, can you conquer life itself.

We can claim ourselves inteligent by knowing that we can not achieve the ability to see both how fast the electron moves and it's possition, no matter how delicate the instruments. Until we know all the limits of our boundries layed about us, we cannot claim to know anything within them.
I never looked at things as being correct / incorrect, right / wrong. I have always veiwed knowedge as the best explaination for what. The more knowedgable you are, the better you can explain what is happeneing at any situation. People have these bursts of "enlightenment" (I've even had them sometimes) when they realizes something new that makes sense to them.
Am I going to be the only person to congradulate Jet_Blast on being the first person to figure out the meaning of life? (Which actually differs from person to person)

Actually, the real meaning of life is

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But you can think whatever you want.


PS- And actually, that doesnt have to be the meaning of life, it can be diferent for a diferent person. Like maybe that person just wants to... take over SEN. Life goal. Doesnt care about offspring.

We think we're the masters of everything, because we are currently the masters of everything. (Just because we're the masters, doesn't mean we MASTERED everything. Just means we're the best right now) Intelligence wise. Until we find aliens (That are smarter than us), it's more than safe enough to consider we are the masters until then.

This whole argueing thing is really good. It may seem bad at first, but someone's got to do it. Hopefully 30-40 generations down the road, our descendents won't have to argue as much as we are today, because we will have resolved most of the arguements. (By we, I mean us and other 29-39 generations)

I don't look at things as right and wrong as Rantent said.
Being obsessed with being correct is just being obsessed with being able to conform to society and what they view as right or wrong. Everyone can have their own view as Millennium said. Humans over the time we existed have created our own views on correct and incorrect I think.

Happens all the time. Then, eventually, they die, and we won't have to worry about it anymore.



Obsessed with being correct? No duh. Its basic human programing to always be right, because if you're wrong, you're simply not living up to what you're supposed to be.(Human programing, not really true) It is possible to get over this, a person simply has to realize that this is their programing, and that if they simply admit that they are wrong or not right in one way or another, and that someone else is right, then they have already gone above their programing, and that is true intelligence.(Or so I think)



Yes, I know, it's ridiculous. Though it may be for the general welfare, it simply puts allot of useless strain on the human mind. Why go find out something that doesn't concern you at all when you could just as easily spend that brain power doing something that would be productive?



Well, I'd have to say that the only real pro out of this situation is that the arguements, no matter how defficient or one-sided they may end up to be, are still arguements, and they help to determine information, and seperate fact from fiction. Since many people seek "truth,"(Or so I think) this is a good way for others to learn, share opinions, and agree on certain things.

So yeah, I'd have to say its a good deal, with some tolerable downsides.

Let me rehash this in my own words (cause I feel like it):

People like to be right, or at least get away with thinking they are, because they can use that to control how they define the things around them. Control is power, and power is survival. So, in a nutshell, being a know-it-all = survival. It's as simple as that.

However, people who can think past their own survival far enough to not worry about being wrong are the ones that learn. In a survival situation, it can be a risky business learning, but those who can afford it are the ones who ultimately adapt and continue to be. Those who can't or don't breed in their own weakness, and die a slow painful death.

being right on forums is cool

Only if you are a l0ser at life lol jk

Yes but you have to realize that most of the people who think they are "genius" are actually average, and they think they are so good they don't even need to learn anymore and shut out anyone else's opinions (This being the most extreme "state").
Also it can have negative effects on society which are, in my opinion, stronger than the positive effects. Shunning someone from a group is a pretty mild example of this, if a group of girls think they are right and you are wrong, you are officially a loser and it makes a big chain of people disliking you. The girls shun you, the girls boyfriends shun you, the boyfriends friends shun you. This can get stressful on an average teenager's life and if it gets to be that extreme the person might hurt themselves or someone
else. Putting all that aside, the good side of it is that you learn interesting topics or bits of information that you just don't learn in school or in the newspaper, but is that worth all the mental stress?

Hmm, I've never had that problem. Everyone assumed that I was "the genius", only because of my usually good marks. It isn't really something that's good - everyone expects you to do everything perfectly, if I screw up, its like "OMG! You suck!" I'm always saying, "WTF? Hell no, I'm not smart by a long shot." And no, I'm not smart. I'm just average. Just because I pay more attention to acedemics does not make me smart. I have a lot more things I need to learn to even consider myself knowledgable. Plus, socially, I'm a retard.

I'm not looked up or down at. I'm merely ignored. Then again, I go to a private all boys school, and those who doesn't do well and doesn't donate a shit load of money is "asked" to leave. So one can say we're left with a bunch of guys that at least understands the value of acedemics.

Heck, I'd place myself at below average intelligence. I don't think I can say that I'm really smarter than over 3 billion people. Nor can I say the same to many of the people i know.

Ah, yes, but the fact that you are actually capable of competent thought does give you and edge, no? Believe, in ppublic schools these days, people are total and complete idiots. There are only the select few in schools that are capable of actually thinking rather then taking the easy way out and being stupid. Why? Well, I have no friggin clue. BUT, it is important to remember that people like this, who are average, but simply don't think, or atleast think beyond their own opinions, are what cause people to end up thinking that they may be "geniuses." Believe me, I know, I was one of them for a period of time.

Anyway, I believe that if this is the TYPE of "geniuses" Jet_Blast54 is refering to, then
it's probably just a total and complete waste of time, and shouldn't even be bothered with. BUT, it does give me an idea for another topic...

I personally dont mind losing if i am truely proven wroung because that means i can now adapt to what is truely right and be a better person for it. SO go ahead and prove me wroung on any given subject just do it well


perhaps some things can only be grasped as a whole and cannot be split into smaller peices and therefore circular logic is required?


actually on a surviving factor we arent nearly the mastrs of this planet. bacteria got us beat at a ratio of about 1 billion to one. tough luck for us being masters, better luck next time. also we depend on them for life.


sometimes the survival of others is important too, becuase the survival of others can eventually in the end lead to your own survival. take the example of the farmers of the world. although more often then not they arent that intellegent (no offense to those farmers out there) but are essential for the continuation of city life. so intellegence isnt everything, same goes for our own survival.

ps: you'll have to excuse me, but i'm a better talker/ explainer in real life, and not over forums.

I said intelligence wise, you need to look better. I do admit, there is a typo, I did a period instead of a comma. My bad, thought the parenthesis would give it away. I mean, what kind of sentence is just, "Intelligence wise." (The period high lighted in red should've been a comma)

is intellegence so important when as a bacteria you dont need it to survive, and survive on a much larger scale then anyhtings humans do?

So you're saying the meaning of life is to procreate, and that bacteria is better than us become they can procreate faster? Is that the only reason why they're "Better"?

Ever hear of the saying, "Quality over Quantity."