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Does christianity even exist anymore. Well if you look at that question the first thing you thing is that any person who would even think that question is somehow crazy. But i have really thought this through and have come to the point where i consider christianity dead. I mean christianity was following christ and trying to be like him. If you are thinking im like christ then you really need to look at yourself and everyone else. People used to be somewhat christ-like...helping the poor, sick, and dieing. But now it just seems to be the way to make priests, bishops, and even the pope's wallet bigger. Sure there are a few honest priests in the world but their disappearing. And this has been going on since about 500 B.C. The priests would always and still pretty much milk whatever they can out of the people. Christ taught us to do unto others as we would do to our selves...Well these people are supposed to be the most christ like and yet the seem to be almost a kind of anit-christ. And as hypocrits they tell us that we need to change our sinfull ways. Well i say they need to take a good look at themselves before they start critisizing us!!!

Yes, as time transpires, the concept of christianity gets more and more contorted. Right now, when people think of christianity, they usually think of catholocism, which i find is extremely faulty in many aspects (overdoing many things, indulgences, etc). They're giving christianity a bad name (in some ways, but not all)

Yes that is true but the blame must not be put all on catholicism. Almost every other branch of christanity has contributed.

If christianity had not changed it would have been forgotten. Change is an essential part of all aspects of life. With out change you die out, as many older religions have. It's not weird how all the religions nowadays are different from what they were 500 years ago.

I realize that but couldnt they try and stay sorta close to what it was 2000 years ago. I mean now its like the exact opposite of what it was then.

Christianity isnt dead, even during the crusades when Christians were sacrificing the non-christians, christianity was still alive. Just messed up.

The christianity im talking about is being Christ-like

Christians are as christ-like today as they were 2000 years ago if you ask me. The crusades were bad. And well... We do have some religious problems in this time... But that doesnt blank out the good Christians.

Back then there was only catholicism. Other branches (the protestants) formed because some ppl realized how faulty catholocism was.

It isn't dead... yet.

~~0.01% of the population is actually true to the core of their religion. I happen to now one, but he is being frustrated out of it; he is learning the world isn't fair.

Yeah TRUE Christianity is dead. Now they are just reading a heavily modified version of the Bible and people accept it as true Christianity.

Oh, never thought of that one. Look at the bible, i mean, that was mutilated!

There are always going to be people in a religion who don't follow it carefully. If you were to go to my church(strictly Christian, meaning not catholocism, etc.) you would see that everyone there is a TRUE Christian. Christianity was never meant to make people ACT like God. In the Bible it says your ultimate goal is to be saved and help as many others be saved along the way. To do this you must take the five steps to salvation. THAT is a TRUE Christian.

yea, I feel for him.

Christianity is a faith not a religon, first. The true path cannot be set into a stereotypical form; it is based on an individual relationship with Christ. Just saying "hey, Jesus is a cool guy, I wanna be like him!" isn't enough, and its up to you and the journey you go on to find out what more to it there is.

If you wanted to be christ like, you would be a hippie liberal. And jesus is too liberal for me.

I don't see how jesus is liberal, he's been dead for some time.

Nice one. Sorry, WAS liberal.

You know what? PEOPLE ARE NO BETTER NOR WORSE NOW THEN THEY HAVE EVER BEEN. PEOPLE DIDN'T ALL USE TO GIVE TO CHARITY, DONATE, AND PEOPLE NOW DON'T ALL IGNORE THOSE THINGS. These wonderful days of yesteryear aren't so great anyways. Now, Shadowbrood, you saying the bible is being minsconstrued is essentially saying "what I view the bible says is the definitive truth, the real message of the bible, and no one else can be right", which is assumptious, rude, and arrogant.

This is funny because B.C. means "Before Christ".



How would you be "liberal" before medieval times?
He (Jesus) was a person who was a leader of the Jewish people at the time. He was crucified by the Romans to tell Jews that they need to keep shut.
You sound angry, how about you sit down and count to 100.

What if that isn't a true Christian? What if that is wrong also?


But really, you all sound like you have never been in a church before. It is not bad as
crazy bad as you people think. Do you see a sign saying "Selling Christian T-shirts, $20.00, members must buy or go to hell." In front of a church these days?

Go look up liberal in the dictionary, then tell me jesus wasn't one. Pluto existed before we found out what it was.

That is different, being liberal is an adjective that people made up. You can't be "Pluto".

The point of it was, liberals existed before they had a name for it. Using the dictionary's definition of liberal, tell me jesus would not be considered one. Seriously.

It's the oldest branch of Christianity, therefore it's the most known one( and the one who had more time to commit stupid acts). And as someone already said there's enough blame to spread around other Christian sub-genres that are out there as there is today. (For instance, how the current England's 'Christianity' was origined with Henry VIII.)



It's called evolution and it's an essential part of survival. One of the exceptions and only to a certain extent is the muslim religion that sorta freezed out in time after Mohamed due to major fundamentalism and clinging to ol' references.
And I'm not saying that this doesn't happen in other religions but it's more evident in this case.

Keep the core (old origin part) of it, the best part there is, and evolve / addapt to the recent ages using what I call ESG (read enough good sense). That's the best plan can think of, imho.



So society has. The point your heading to!?! *Wonders*
Look up to the above reply at muslim religion to see what happened... Not a very diplomatic one abroad it's practicing countries, especially considering with all it's outdated references, those fundies and all that related crap.



Not exactly faulty. I would put it as incongruent with it's principles durin' those dark ages (inquisition, indulgencies, untolerance towards other creeds, etc.).
Imo, those sub-branches appeared mostly due to that and 'cause they had another PoV's of Christian teachings that the Catholic Church didn't exactly endorsed or agreed. *Winks*



From the above quote I have a couple of questions for you.
1) If it's dead then explain me what are those folks practicing it's core principles... around the world (for instance, just like my ol' man).

2) Of what moddified version are speaking of? 'Cause there are few out there.

3) Please carefully explain to me wich tradition who's passed from generation to generation by mouth before writting it down who hasn't suffered at least tad addaptations. It's like that sayin' (in my mother tongue that I'll translate to ya all): "Who tells a tale adds a dot."

And I'm currently reading the book who inspired Dan Brown's Da Vince Code and seeing that many times tradition was lost or even rearranged according to the hermeneutics who layed their hands on it. Funny thing is that the author (Margaret Starbird) initially tried to find claims to contradict another book.



True, there's always a couple of black sheep in any religion...
I just don't exactly agree with the part of my Christian sub-branch is better than yours bit, tough. Freedom of choice for evaluatin' for themselves, imao.

And Christianity says to help your fellow man (or woman)... not exactly to 'save' it. (And this save is by your own standards, not by general Christian doctrine.) Just to state that there are always a couple of variants amidst any religious sub-genre that snags with others.



It's human nature to identify themsleves with a group, either a religious, political or whatever you deem fit. That's imo how many these sub-genres choosen to name themselves in order to distinguish from each others. if that's good or bad thing... please don't get me to comment further on that. *Smiles n' winks*



Actually from the book that am reading it states that he gave along nicely with a right-wing group called zealots (from wich Judas, the follower, initially came).
Maybe your really snagging is with it's ideals that are perhaps too liberal for ya (in the recent society's eyes).



State of fact, please. (Aka proofs.)



*Lol* Beaten to the point.



Another paraphrasing of what I've said that agree with. In fact, it was to keep a menace to the Roman to spread over it (wich happened anyway).



And you keep judging a man who lived 2000 years ago by a today's referencial.



I can be right-wing and at the same time practice some of those noble principles. (Or get along with conservatives and still practice Christian principles.) Where's the catch anyway (yours at least)?

What's bad with using the definitions of today? Shouldn't it be bad to use the definitions of thousands of years ago? I think ours is a little bit more updated if you ask me.

Hm.. does anyone exactly how it was that Christianity was started? As in, who(m) started it, came up with the rules and principles (By this, I mean the very first, core principles, not modern day add-ons.), and what it was that may have sparked the concept of God in them(My guess is their Jewish background, under the condition that it really was a group of Jews who started it. I'm not too sure, not very familiar with religion.).

Anyway, I think that Christianity itself was never a religion filled with corrupted power-hungry religios officials(bishops, priests, cardinals, sometimes even the pope, though the former was a pretty damn good one.), but simply became so over time, because greedy mean ass people, greedy smartass people, took advantage of the religions power over others and tried to modify it to their benefit. Their abuse of power is what caused the messed up religion we see today. Aparently, I'm only restating stuff others have said, so....Guess thats it.