Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-06-03 at 13:41:18
There has been a lot of talk of how much of a negative contribution pop culture is. So let's flip it and look for positive things, just to see how well ya'll paid attention in history class 
What are the greatest contributions to art that your country took part in? For example, the Baroque music movement, Harlm Renissiance and birth of the Blues, etc.
List and give a little info on them.
What are the greatest contributions to art that your country took part in? For example, the Baroque music movement, Harlm Renissiance and birth of the Blues, etc.
List and give a little info on them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-03 at 17:11:45
Starcraft Map making is an art seriously. But that's only our SC world...
I'm not too familiar a bout art, but I think it's mainly the music which started this pop culture revolution i think (Elvis, Beetles, rolling stones, etc).
I'm not too familiar a bout art, but I think it's mainly the music which started this pop culture revolution i think (Elvis, Beetles, rolling stones, etc).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-06-04 at 02:08:45
I'm no art genius, but I remember when some famous artists used to paint, they sold no copies. Meaning no one really cared about their paintings, and noticed their skill. Yet, years later, we some how notice it, and sell their worthless paintings for millions of dollars.
Maybe this crappy music we hear now a days might get popular a few hundred or thousands years from now.
Maybe this crappy music we hear now a days might get popular a few hundred or thousands years from now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-06-04 at 02:22:54
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I'm no art genius, but I remember when some famous artists used to paint, they sold no copies. Meaning no one really cared about their paintings, and noticed their skill. Yet, years later, we some how notice it, and sell their worthless paintings for millions of dollars.
Maybe this crappy music we hear now a days might get popular a few hundred or thousands years from now.
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Maybe this crappy music we hear now a days might get popular a few hundred or thousands years from now.
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You could not possibly imagine how wrong I hope you are.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-04 at 13:31:37
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Starcraft Map making is an art seriously. But that's only our SC world...
Also playing melee is an art
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tdnfthe1 on 2005-06-04 at 15:11:22
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You could not possibly imagine how wrong I hope you are.
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#1) What crappy music?
#2)I don't think he's wrong actually.
A good art would most defenitely be custom dance. Such as different versions of ballet, pop, swing, tapdance, and my favorite, though i dont know it's name, our everyday teenage dance style associated with alot of Hip Hop and Rap music.
These were simply influenced into our world through many different events in history, and the eagerness to explore, advance and express ourselves.
And about SC Mapmaking, this is a huge art, that is something that very much challenges your intellect to master.(This is why we respect Tux-Temp so much)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-06-04 at 20:06:12
I was talking more like movements in art.
Schools of Literature: Transcendentalism, Existentialism, Romanticism,
Musical Movements: Classical, Baroque, Jazz, Rock, Cubism,
That's the sort of stuff I'm talking about.
Schools of Literature: Transcendentalism, Existentialism, Romanticism,
Musical Movements: Classical, Baroque, Jazz, Rock, Cubism,
That's the sort of stuff I'm talking about.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tdnfthe1 on 2005-06-04 at 21:50:52
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I was talking more like movements in art.
Schools of Literature: Transcendentalism, Existentialism, Romanticism,
Musical Movements: Classical, Baroque, Jazz, Rock, Cubism,
That's the sort of stuff I'm talking about.
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Schools of Literature: Transcendentalism, Existentialism, Romanticism,
Musical Movements: Classical, Baroque, Jazz, Rock, Cubism,
That's the sort of stuff I'm talking about.
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So you mean more of the elegant taste? I simple city kid like me can't comprehend too much about that stuff. Bach was an intresting fellow though, and so was Mozart(What's his whole name?). Bach defenitely made some very defenitive music that had intresting tunes to it, and how complex his music was on sheet is probably what made it the most intresting. I believe the more complicated and well-thought out the artwork is, the better the outcome will be. You can look all throughout history, as people refined their arts and spent more and more time on them it soon became a great thing. Ex: Beethoven, Orchestra, Jazz, Swing, Rock, different forms of musical performance, etc.
On the serious thought: I'm thinking some of the non-consistant members(most) won't post in your forum because it appears to be very broad and advanced. But this is just what i think.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-06-05 at 00:37:18
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#1) What crappy music?
I believe he was talking about rap... and I didn't say that he was wrong. I just said that I hoped he was wrong.
And as for Artistic movements... well, I'm afraid Tdnfthe1 is right in my case(partially, anyway). I'm not into Art and Artistic movement. I find satisfaction in my own Art (everything from still life, to oil painting, to anime
). So yea, I'd have to agree with Tdnfthe1, it doen't look like you're going to get many good posts, Kame...Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-06-05 at 00:41:27
Rap itself is Ok, but i dont like hip hopish rap. I like raps like Linkin Park and Eminem.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-06-05 at 00:48:12
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 4 2005, 10:41 PM)
Rap itself is Ok, but i dont like hip hopish rap. I like raps like Linkin Park and Eminem.
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Linkin Park is rap? ...
Eminem isn't bad. But if you consider the rap we listen to nowadays, because the cheap crap they advertise as rap and hip hop is simply poison to your ears. Every now and then, something good comes up...but most of the time, its crap.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tdnfthe1 on 2005-06-05 at 01:40:05
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 4 2005, 10:41 PM)
Rap itself is Ok, but i dont like hip hopish rap. I like raps like Linkin Park and Eminem.
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Linkin Park is rap? ...
Eminem isn't bad. But if you consider the rap we listen to nowadays, because the cheap crap they advertise as rap and hip hop is simply poison to your ears. Every now and then, something good comes up...but most of the time, its crap.
Eminem isn't bad. But if you consider the rap we listen to nowadays, because the cheap crap they advertise as rap and hip hop is simply poison to your ears. Every now and then, something good comes up...but most of the time, its crap.
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Note: This is caucasian rap. And you said Eminem isn't bad? His raps are just as gnasty and dirty as anything else you hear on the radio. Being realistic, you don't see it that way because he's caucasion and he told his story to MTV. For some reason people understand Eminem but not people like Mac Dre, or Dr.Dre.
I find that ignorant, and to most people who listen to rap will find you being a huge stereo-typicalist, and racist. They would then question you heavily on why you have said Eminem is so great, but everything else sux.
I won't get into this because Kame's topic has nothing to do with it, he's talking about some of the more beautiful sides to world art, and this kind of talking would end up as a completely different subject.
But to clear something else up, i didn't say many people will view this thread, i said many people probably won't post here because it requires a little bit of a higher intellect. Just clearing that up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FallenDreamer on 2005-06-05 at 02:33:33
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Note: This is caucasian rap. And you said Eminem isn't bad? His raps are just as gnasty and dirty as anything else you hear on the radio. Being realistic, you don't see it that way because he's caucasion and he told his story to MTV. For some reason people understand Eminem but not people like Mac Dre, or Dr.Dre.
I find that ignorant, and to most people who listen to rap will find you being a huge stereo-typicalist, and racist. They would then question you heavily on why you have said Eminem is so great, but everything else sux.
I won't get into this because Kame's topic has nothing to do with it, he's talking about some of the more beautiful sides to world art, and this kind of talking would end up as a completely different subject.
But to clear something else up, i didn't say many people will view this thread, i said many people probably won't post here because it requires a little bit of a higher intellect. Just clearing that up.
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I find that ignorant, and to most people who listen to rap will find you being a huge stereo-typicalist, and racist. They would then question you heavily on why you have said Eminem is so great, but everything else sux.
I won't get into this because Kame's topic has nothing to do with it, he's talking about some of the more beautiful sides to world art, and this kind of talking would end up as a completely different subject.
But to clear something else up, i didn't say many people will view this thread, i said many people probably won't post here because it requires a little bit of a higher intellect. Just clearing that up.
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Off Topic:
...I don't watch MTV =\ nor am I a fan of Eminem. I never said he was great. His older songs(if you could even call em that) are crap. But nowadays, he has done some cleaner, less ear-shattering stuff.
And from this point on, no more commenting on Eminem. Back to talking about Art!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-06-05 at 02:35:24
QUOTE(Tdnfthe1 @ Jun 4 2005, 06:50 PM)
On the serious thought: I'm thinking some of the non-consistant members(most) won't post in your forum because it appears to be very broad and advanced. But this is just what i think.
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I'm hoping to bring the point across that I have heard pop being described as horrible, and I want to know what is acceptable against that. Not to mention how many ethical, moral, religous, etc. topics that are brought up without any tribute to the artistic side to it.
Rap, for example, has its roots in the Beat Movement. It was started by a bunch of bohemian white guys I believe in LA, but I could be wrong. They came up with poetry called "raps." Slam poetry also has some roots there. And, although it is now known for the blend of R n B, and the rap that black guys do, it has its roots in numerous places. Beat Movement on the flipside also inspired artists like Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin--acid rock.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-06-05 at 05:01:19
The stuff that was developed in LA was the hip-hop/rap stuff that we can generalize as the stuff that sounds like the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme. The actual "old school" rap is called that for a reason. It was developed before then, although I'm not sure when. A friend of mine did a report on it a while back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zb2k on 2005-06-08 at 14:49:35
QUOTE(MillenniumArmy @ Jun 4 2005, 10:41 PM)
Rap itself is Ok, but i dont like hip hopish rap. I like raps like Linkin Park and Eminem.
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I really dislike hip hop and rap. C'mon how many songs can you make about 20 inch rims?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-06-08 at 17:53:18
Rock 'n' Roll, the next thing after Jazz had died down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_roll
As far as Canada is involved, just a lot of great bands, who started from nothing. I have more respect for someone who started out making next to nothing, and mostly just going because it's what they love to do... than someone who was born into wealth and decided to get someone to edit their voice and make it sound good.
To be a good rock band, you need a lot of talent, I dislike bands that have everything completly edited, and half the stuff you hear wasn't actually done by them. It's a lot of work to succeed in rock 'n' roll, and less about image.
Whatever, rock 'n' roll for life.
As far as Canada is involved, just a lot of great bands, who started from nothing. I have more respect for someone who started out making next to nothing, and mostly just going because it's what they love to do... than someone who was born into wealth and decided to get someone to edit their voice and make it sound good.
To be a good rock band, you need a lot of talent, I dislike bands that have everything completly edited, and half the stuff you hear wasn't actually done by them. It's a lot of work to succeed in rock 'n' roll, and less about image.
Whatever, rock 'n' roll for life.