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Report, edit, etc...Posted by decafchicken on 2005-06-04 at 21:53:50
The current name is Demolition Fields, might be changing the name if someone suggests a better one/i think of a better one. I'm wondering if i should add any expos around the middle area. Let me know of any improvements i should make. Oh yea, the 2 geysers at top/bottom on high ground in the middle have 2000 gas each
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-04 at 23:04:38
Pros:
  • The map is jungle.
Cons:
  • The mineral placement is horrible.
  • The symmetry is off just enough to make it painful to look at.
  • It is way too big.
  • Stupid 2-gas-only expos serve no use whatsoever.
  • The scribbled temple is of almost no use, because it doesn't cover enough area and is too easy to take back once it has been taken.
  • Zerg must hatch-before-expo on only some positions.
  • 7:00 is tiny compared to 1:00
  • Why on earth is their unbuildable terrain in front of the mains?
  • No second ramp at the 6:00 cliff.
  • 11:00 expo has a cliff.
  • Too much space for terran to move their army across.
  • Overall, it just looks sloppy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by decafchicken on 2005-06-05 at 11:23:33
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jun 4 2005, 11:04 PM)
Pros:

  • The map is jungle.
Cons:

  • The mineral placement is horrible.
  • The symmetry is off just enough to make it painful to look at.
  • It is way too big.
  • Stupid 2-gas-only expos serve no use whatsoever.
  • The scribbled temple is of almost no use, because it doesn't cover enough area and is too easy to take back once it has been taken.
  • Zerg must hatch-before-expo on only some positions.
  • 7:00 is tiny compared to 1:00
  • Why on earth is their unbuildable terrain in front of the mains?
  • No second ramp at the 6:00 cliff.
  • 11:00 expo has a cliff.
  • Too much space for terran to move their army across.
  • Overall, it just looks sloppy.

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Many thanks for the empyrean-style advice smile.gif I'll get on it as soon as i find some free time. What do you think i should do instead of the 2 gas only expo's? Remove them? add minerals? I'll try and neaten it up a bit. Any ideas on what i should use to fill in space?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-05 at 15:27:18
i'd just take them away and make the mineral only below it have gas

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no map should be 192x128 unless a huge amount of it is water

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so that is why you have so much extra space
Report, edit, etc...Posted by decafchicken on 2005-06-05 at 23:04:20
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jun 5 2005, 03:27 PM)
i'd just take them away and make the mineral only below it have gas

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no map should be 192x128 unless a huge amount of it is water

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so that is why you have so much extra space
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Well, when i had 128 x 128, the mains were too close together.

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Here's an update,
More empyrean style critique gogo~
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Addition: Man, just looked at screeny, i really need to neaten it up a bit eh?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Panschk on 2005-06-06 at 02:58:52
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jun 5 2005, 08:27 PM)

ADDITION:
no map should be 192x128 unless a huge amount of it is water

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so that is why you have so much extra space
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No map should be more than 128² at all! Minimap is so f'ing small, it's just less fun than reasonably sized maps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-06-06 at 09:13:41
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Stupid 2-gas-only expos serve no use whatsoever.

Unless you are zerg.

You didnt fix the scattered temple, the ramp at the 6 oclock, the expos on either side are crooked, thats basically it for now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by decafchicken on 2005-06-06 at 17:06:18
QUOTE(Yenku @ Jun 6 2005, 09:13 AM)
Unless you are zerg.

You didnt fix the scattered temple, the ramp at the 6 oclock, the expos on either side are crooked, thats basically it for now.
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I said it was just an update happy.gif
Thanks for the feedback though. I'll keep it comping.

Addition: Anybody think of what i should put in place of the temple?

Addition2: Another Update
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-06-06 at 18:14:41
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Addition: Anybody think of what i should put in place of the temple?

Maybe a triangular shaped, full temple.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by decafchicken on 2005-06-06 at 20:46:24
Bleh, this map is pissing me off happy.gif Hope its starting to come together.
Tell me what you think of this vers
P.S. Changed name to Loathing Plains. Good or Bad?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-06-07 at 10:19:45
well you fixed the offness of the two side expo, but there are some other minor problems, but fixing those will come with time in map making.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by decafchicken on 2005-06-07 at 14:00:30
QUOTE(Yenku @ Jun 7 2005, 10:19 AM)
well you fixed the offness of the two side expo, but there are some other minor problems, but fixing those will come with time in map making.
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Like what minor problems?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-06-07 at 14:22:42
Like I said, it will take more experiance im making maps/playing on them to understand what those things are. You need to fix things like balance issues between races, i bet you barely put that into consideration when making the map. You have a slightly unsymmetrical (when you were trying to make it symmetriical) feel that gives me a headache. You have some of the "supposed to be" equivilant land masses different sizes. I dunno, maybe im not specific enough, just dont worry about waht i said yet. Just keep on trying more, you will improve.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by decafchicken on 2005-06-07 at 14:43:00
QUOTE(Yenku @ Jun 7 2005, 02:22 PM)
Like I said, it will take more experiance im making maps/playing on them to understand what those things are.  You need to fix things like balance issues between races, i bet you barely put that into consideration when making the map.  You have a slightly unsymmetrical (when you were trying to make it symmetriical) feel that gives me a headache.   You have some of the "supposed to be" equivilant land masses different sizes.  I dunno, maybe im not specific enough, just dont worry about waht i said yet.  Just keep on trying more, you will improve.
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Yea, i think i know what you mean. I just need to learn what balances the MU's

Addition: I made a few tweaks with the temple, Are there any more major/minor issues somebody can point out to fix? SPEAK NOW~~ And does anyone wish to playtest it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-06-07 at 15:01:45
I cant find my sc cd, i have to get a new one, or find my old one. pinch.gif
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