The oil left on this planet is slowly being depleted, and the only way of making up for it is by developing a new source of fuel. So, whats it going to be?
So far, we've got...
- Fuel Cells
- Solar Power
- Electricity
- Hydrogen
- Liquified Petroleum Gas(LPG)
- Liquified Natural Gas(LNG)
- Alchohol
- Biodiesel
- Water (My dad used this method in Mexico once, lol)
If you've got anymore additions, please feel free to post them.
uh... isn't water and hydrogen the same technology?
QUOTE(Kame da Sniper @ Jun 11 2005, 07:18 PM)
uh... isn't water and hydrogen the same technology?
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Not nescessarily. You see, by water, I mean just that. Raw water. Hydrogen is refined from water. Though more efficient, it's also more dangerous. Everything has a plus and a minus..
I thought hydrogen power was created when water was split into hydrogen and oxygen. Or was it when hydrogen and oxygen combined?
QUOTE(Kame da Sniper @ Jun 11 2005, 07:28 PM)
I thought hydrogen power was created when water was split into hydrogen and oxygen. Or was it when hydrogen and oxygen combined?
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No, you're thinking of fuel cells. They basically do that within the fuel cell, and use the energy released to power your car or whatever machine you're using, and they use liquid hydrogen, but combine it with oxygen as a final product to make sure its safe. I believe the hydrogen fuel itself is the kind where they must combust hydrogen, kinda like oil. But once again, this is a hell lot more dangerous.
in the news theres this dude in a foreighn country he modfied his engine to run on COOKING OIL i didnt believe it at first but i saw it and it runs like a car runs on gas its amazing
QUOTE(violentj @ Jun 11 2005, 07:36 PM)
in the news theres this dude in a foreighn country he modfied his engine to run on COOKING OIL i didnt believe it at first but i saw it and it runs like a car runs on gas its amazing
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Yeah, thats basically Biodiesel. Vegetables produce oils that can be used for burning.
On other news.....heres some info on water-to-hydrogen fuel, probably a safer method of using hydrogen:
Running a Gasoline Engine on Hydrogen Using WaterHmm, here's to the unlikely:
- Antimatter
- Nuclear (fission/fusion)
I can see it now:
"In other news, a car accident today in downtown led to a 3 kiloton explosion, causing roughly 1 million fatalities..."
QUOTE(SpaceBoy2000 @ Jun 11 2005, 07:55 PM)
Hmm, here's to the unlikely:
- Antimatter
- Nuclear (fission/fusion)
I can see it now:
"In other news, a car accident today in downtown led to a 3 kiloton explosion, causing roughly 1 million fatalities..."
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With the current state of nuclear power, a scenario like that could happen if we decided to power cars with nuclear reactors. As for antimatter, I don't think that we've progressed that far yet.
Depending on the actions of the Oil Companies, electricity will Probably be the fuel of the future. It's fairly efficient, easy enough to attain, and can make a car go miles and miles.
Biggest thing that will halt this is the Oil Companies. Everytime someone finds a way to make any leap in the science surrounding electric powered cars, an Oil Company quietly comes in and kill off the project.
I've personally noticed this happen before. A team found a way to make a car go from New York to San Fransisco on one charge without needing lots of batteries, while still maintaining posted speed limits. An Oil Company found out about it, and before the news got to the public, the project was bought out and scrapped. The Oil Companys just have too much money, and thus too much power...
wow, you guys watch too many movies, a nuclear bomb = highly enriched plutonium, a nuclear reactor = lowly enriched plutonium.
If an air craft carrier (nuclear powered) crashed into something, there will not be a nuclear explosion!!!!
There will be, I think, radiation poisening/spill everywhere.
no explosion, sorry guys, nothing exciting here....
QUOTE(SpaceBoy2000 @ Jun 11 2005, 07:55 PM)
Hmm, here's to the unlikely:
- Antimatter
- Nuclear (fission/fusion)
I can see it now:
"In other news, a car accident today in downtown led to a 3 kiloton explosion, causing roughly 1 million fatalities..."
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... We hardly can produce a few particles of antimatter at the moment.
Nuclear power would be heaven for terrorists, think about it.
QUOTE(ShadowBrood @ Jun 11 2005, 10:24 PM)
... We hardly can produce a few particles of antimatter at the moment.
Nuclear power would be heaven for terrorists, think about it.
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Yup. That's why antimatter is still far away from becoming a viable energy source; we have so little of it.
S.T.A.R.S-Chris is right; a nuclear-powered car wouldn't cause a great explosion like a true nuclear bomb. It could probably make a great radiological weapon, what with radiation leakage resulting from reactor damage and all that lovely shit; combine that with regular explosives and other radioactive materials (like cesium-137), and you've got an instant dirty bomb.
Yeah, I meant it like they drive out to a crop area and blow up the car. Boom! Screwed up and contaminated crops. Sick people, death, chaos, anthropomorphic pears, the works!
so pretty much the effects of a nuclear bomb, just no firery explosion, flying bodies/cars, death and shock wave.
Neutron Bomb is worse... Small explosion compared to nuke, BUT throw in a big twist: everyone just dies. Buildings are left in tact and everything but everyone's dead.
The cause? Neutrons

up your cells REAL bad. Have fun making one

Ok, so I read an article about the people living at the old Hyroshima site, where there is still radioactive materials everywhere, and the children there are living much longer (on average) to the people anywhere else on the world. Scientists are still researching other benifits of radiation, because although there have been tests run, we don't know what it really does.
Anyways the next fuel economy will be electricity, but that will probably have a short reign. Hydrogen is much farther off than most people think, as we can't even come up with decent gas tanks to hold it in. The closest thing we've invented is a plastic goo that would seperate individual hydrogen molecules, but that goo could not touch anything flammable, so it is kind of a failure.
To tell you the truth, I think you should all follow in my footsteps and make your own gasoline, using a still. It's kind of like the idea of running off of alcohol, but you add a few more carbon atoms. Stills are really easy to build, and only require rotton fruits and other biodegradable materials. It actually takes less money to make the same amount of fuel. (Plus you get to eat bananas!)
lol on some old replies belive it or not show it showed a van that ran on grease/fat oils.
Neutron bomb...hmm...I wonder what I need... and to also add the effect of a nuclear bomb..so basicly put both Neutron and Nuclear bombs together to form a very dirty bomb!
AND KIWIS!! I hope...
Neutron bombs arent very dirty, just a clean kill, no long term radiation.
QUOTE(ShadowBrood @ Jun 12 2005, 12:18 AM)
AND KIWIS!! I hope...
Neutron bombs arent very dirty, just a clean kill, no long term radiation.
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I don't think u got what i men't to what i said
"Neutron bomb...hmm...I wonder what I need... and to also add the effect of a nuclear bomb..so basicly put both Neutron and Nuclear bombs together to form a very dirty bomb!"
Nuclear Bombs:
Create ash,radiation,destruction, and death with big explostion with very high tempertures!
Neutron bombs:
Instant death!
When combined:
Ash,debries,radiation,destruction,and instant death plus a big explostion with a very hot place.
So what I ment was, its just a nuclear bomb with the same things but a fast kill as well in a longer range
Well that's impossible because for a nuke to work, you need to keep the neutrons in to they slam together and split.
Neutron bombs just let them go and make a large explosion when they get released.
Post a topic on war, people start talking about fuel....post a topic on fuel, people start talking about bombs... Oi

Anyway...
QUOTE(Rantent @ Jun 12 2005, 12:44 AM)
Anyways the next fuel economy will be electricity, but that will probably have a short reign. Hydrogen is much farther off than most people think, as we can't even come up with decent gas tanks to hold it in. The closest thing we've invented is a plastic goo that would seperate individual hydrogen molecules, but that goo could not touch anything flammable, so it is kind of a failure.
To tell you the truth, I think you should all follow in my footsteps and make your own gasoline, using a still. It's kind of like the idea of running off of alcohol, but you add a few more carbon atoms. Stills are really easy to build, and only require rotton fruits and other biodegradable materials. It actually takes less money to make the same amount of fuel. (Plus you get to eat bananas!)
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Thats a good idea actually, the whole still thing. But it's only a temporary solution. I mean, how often are you going to go out and get food for fuel? Perhaps go searching for rotten yummies in the trash? There should probably be a better method that does not directly concern our food source.
And as for Hydrogen, the only real downside is the fact that it's extremely reactive and flammable. But, if you saw my two links up in my previous post, then you'd woulda seen the possibility of using hydrogen right after its been extracted from water.
That is a good idea, but I still think cold fusion is better

QUOTE(FallenDreamer @ Jun 11 2005, 07:55 PM)
The oil left on this planet is slowly being depleted, and the only way of making up for it is by developing a new source of fuel. So, whats it going to be?
So far, we've got...
- Fuel Cells
- Solar Power
- Electricity
- Hydrogen
- Liquified Petroleum Gas(LPG)
- Liquified Natural Gas(LNG)
- Alchohol
- Biodiesel
- Water (My dad used this method in Mexico once, lol)
If you've got anymore additions, please feel free to post them.
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Well, that's a relief...
You know, when I mentioned the big explosion, I was referring to antimatter, right?
That would produce a big explosion, lots of radiation, etc. Though yes, it is true that we haven't been able to make any significant quantity of antimatter. Like I said, the unlikely.
Nuclear reactors would probably be just a lot of radiation flying around in a fission reactor. Fusion reactors...I don't know. The fact that we haven't gotten one working yet kinda rules it out as well though.
EDIT:
QUOTE(brutetal @ Jun 12 2005, 02:27 AM)
I don't think u got what i men't to what i said
"Neutron bomb...hmm...I wonder what I need... and to also add the effect of a nuclear bomb..so basicly put both Neutron and Nuclear bombs together to form a very dirty bomb!"
Nuclear Bombs:
Create ash,radiation,destruction, and death with big explostion with very high tempertures!
Neutron bombs:
Instant death!
When combined:
Ash,debries,radiation,destruction,and instant death plus a big explostion with a very hot place.
So what I ment was, its just a nuclear bomb with the same things but a fast kill as well in a longer range
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Hmm, I think neutron bombs are nukes without all the firey destruction. Here's the article from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb