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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-20 at 03:17:41
PsychoTemplar reminded me of this, the Philadelphia Experiment.

The Philadelphia Experiment

This is a thread to intelligently discuss this experiment, so please, no flammers or spammers allowed. happy.gif

I believe that it is possible for something like this to happen. I haven't read up on it for a while so, i'm going to read this page later today (it's 1:15 AM here)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-06-20 at 11:24:37
I don't think it's possible. I think that it's impossible for a destroyer to just teleport hundreds of miles away and then reappear in the same spot.

More importantly, I doubt that there's some "conspiracy" to brainwash the supposed participants in the experiment.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-20 at 20:56:15
The teleportation part, I highly doubt that. But if we could somehow refract the magnetic waves around our body without screwing them up, then cloaking would work smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-06-20 at 21:06:16
I heard some where, probably the history channel, then when it teleported, the men on board were like half connected to the ship and some had their arms gone, like they teleported and appeared inbetween ship walls. Or somehting like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-20 at 21:08:07
Yeah, probibly heard that from there. I have heard that from sites on the web too. It sounds reasonable, if the ship really did actually teleport.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-06-20 at 21:52:39
Umm, well I can see how strong magnetic feilds could deflect light waves, but the light waves would be directed in angles that would not look like the boat was invisible. As for teleportation, I don't think that would work. The men probably fused to the ships structure because in very strong magnetice forces, metal can be rather mallible.
The nausia might be explained as well. I'm guessing that if you got a magnet strong enough, you could have the force interact with the positive ions in our body, causeing neurons to fire randomly, which would probably cause some sickneses.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by timmy8586 on 2005-06-20 at 22:35:17
QUOTE(Rantent @ Jun 20 2005, 08:52 PM)
Umm, well I can see how strong magnetic feilds could deflect light waves, but the light waves would be directed in angles that would not look like the boat was invisible. As for teleportation, I don't think that would work. The men probably fused to the ships structure because in very strong magnetice forces, metal can be rather mallible.
The nausia might be explained as well. I'm guessing that if you got a magnet strong enough, you could have the force interact with the positive ions in our body, causeing neurons to fire randomly, which would probably cause some sickneses.
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Malleable just means it can go thin, not fuse :/ I'm not to knowledgeable on magnetic waves but I'm sure to some extent if they could deflect light at all they could rig up a system to produce a hologram. Personally I don't deem this plausible. If they did teleport, it seems logical to me that they in reality have just moved really fast to that location - which would have been impossible. The friction from the air would have been high enough to melt the ship and burn all of the people to death, not to mention the extreme force the people would be subject to - definitely not something withstandable. This isn't something I can believe. w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-06-21 at 07:06:57
I think the magnetism teleporting the ship is absolute bull****.

In the situation of that destroyer, it would require that suddenly, dozens of super-efficient nuclear power plants appeared and supplied unreasonable amounts of energy to the ship, to make in make such an amount of magnetism to teleport the ship. Plus, if the ship teleported somewhere using magnetism, on the dayof the teleportation, there would be litterally TONNES of reports of magnets pointing the wrong way, since the magnetic field would create such a huge amount of magnetism.

And I doubt the guys got fused into the ship, because the ship would simply not have the power to create such electromagnets to do that sort of thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-21 at 13:13:50
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Jun 21 2005, 04:06 AM)
I think the magnetism teleporting the ship is absolute bull****.

In the situation of that destroyer, it would require that suddenly, dozens of super-efficient nuclear power plants appeared and supplied unreasonable amounts of energy to the ship, to make in make such an amount of magnetism to teleport the ship. Plus, if the ship teleported somewhere using magnetism, on the dayof the teleportation, there would be litterally TONNES of reports of magnets pointing the wrong way, since the magnetic field would create such a huge amount of magnetism.

And I doubt the guys got fused into the ship, because the ship would simply not have the power to create such electromagnets to do that sort of thing.
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Omfg.... Are you stupid? I don't think you understand Magnetics at all. Dude, Nuclear Power does not create a magnetic field. It could but, highly doubtfull. So, how you state that they would need nuclear power plants to make that huge amount of magnetics, is a fallacy in it's own. Did you not read the link? How they did it (if it really did teleport, which is doubtfull) is they got generators powerfull enough to change the magnetic field around the ship. Then, they got large cables that were attached to them, and that caused "Deguass".

And, it is posible that the men got fused with the ship, if you understand magnetics. Oh, I forgot, you don't happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-06-21 at 14:41:01
Are YOU stupid?
Nuclear power = electricity = electromagnets. Thats where the nuclear powerplants came from; to make power for electromagnets.

And did you not read the part about how this would cause such a powerful magnetic field that it could easily be detected by something that well, detects magnetic fields, such as a compass?

And I still doubt that anyone got fused into the ship. Unless you have pictures, I dont believe it.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by timmy8586 on 2005-06-21 at 15:11:03
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Jun 21 2005, 01:41 PM)
Are YOU stupid?
Nuclear power = electricity = electromagnets. Thats where the nuclear powerplants came from; to make power for electromagnets.

And did you not read the part about how this would cause such a powerful magnetic field that it could easily be detected by something that well, detects magnetic fields, such as a compass?

And I still doubt that anyone got fused into the ship. Unless you have pictures, I dont believe it.
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Nuclear power = energy. They turn the energy into an electric current for common uses. You can use electricity to power electromagnets. What's your point? You don't know physics and you sure as hell know nothing of magnetics. If it really needed to be that strong, then there's no doubt in my mind you would have shitloads of rocks and the ship itself curving up towards the focus of the magnetic field, at the very least. All of the iron would just be pulled towards it. The immense force of a 12+ nuclear power plants powering an electromagnet would probably be enough to create a nice mound of iron from what used you be your boat.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/electromagnet.htm if you really cared enough to learn about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-06-21 at 17:11:18
Timmy, that's my point. The nuclear power can be used to power electromagnets, but Kellimus didn't believe that. And also, I was trying to say that so much power would be needed for the "magnetic teleportation" that it would be unreasonable.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-21 at 17:30:44
I never said that. Why the hell are you putting words in my mouth?

And the nuclear power can power the magnets, but there is no nuclear power on a boat.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by timmy8586 on 2005-06-21 at 17:33:44
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Timmy, that's my point. The nuclear power can be used to power electromagnets, but Kellimus didn't believe that. And also, I was trying to say that so much power would be needed for the "magnetic teleportation" that it would be unreasonable.
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You said it as if nuclear power automatically generated an electromagnetic field. Not once did I mention that it would require an unreasonable amount of power, I simply gave an idea of why 12+ nuclear generators wouldn't work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-06-21 at 19:23:11
Okay. Let me clear this all up, shall I?

In earlier posts, I was trying to state that it it would take a lot of power, most likely an impractical amount, to get an electromagnetic field that might possibly somehow transport the ship somewhere. I mean, the ships gotta have a good amount of mass. It'd take a lot of power to teleport an entire ship.

As for the 12 nuclear generator comment, I wanted to get the point across that it would take a ton of power to teleport the ship.

OKAY?
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