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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-06-24 at 16:29:42
Alright, the fact of the matter of life is that there is no way to know if there is an afterlife until you actually die. If there isnt one, then you just cease to exist and thus wont regret, remember, or anything about your life.

The universe may or may not have had a beginning.
I refer to the Matrix quote 'Everything that has a beginning has an end.' when I say that if the universe never began then it will never end. We as humans conceived infinity and yet we refuse to beleive that the universe or 'time' (Time is only the transfer of energy at the rate we perceive it, nothing more) is infinite. Since everything we know begins and ends we must apply it to that we do not yet fully understand.

We yearn to understand things that we don't, it is what makes us human.

There are three states of energy, balance, chaos, and order.
Balance is a state where, though there is energy present, no energy transfers.
Chaos is the uncontrolled and 'random' (Nothing is truely random, something random is simply something we cannot predict because we do not know all the factors.) state of energy, where tranfer happens extremely fast.
Order is energy in a loop that is controllable, such as the rotation of planets or ecosystems.
From everyday observations, one can conclude that the universe has been trying to reach a state of uttermost balance for its entire existance. At one point it might just have acheived that. Yet, something, perhaps god, keeps pushing it in the other direction, and with more force.
We, as humans, are an amazing source of chaotic energy. Think about that. We create so much uncontrollable energy in our world, such as wars, sports, and even the internet. Its all uncontrollable energy. It does not loop and it does not even out.

Whether you like it or not, travelling backward through time is impossible. In order to do so, one would have to manipulate EVERY source of energy in the universe. Even then, you have to find a way to reverse the flow of energy exactly. Energy flows either chaotically or orderly. It does not go backward.

blink.gif Ouch, my brain hurts... Too much thinking...
confused.gif Hmm, forgot my name again...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-24 at 16:51:52
Doesn't quantum mechanics deal with randomness? And I thought like the decay of radioactive things was random.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-06-24 at 16:56:58
Nope. If you think about it, we simply don't have the technology to track and accurately predict the individual atoms and protons and nuetrons and all that good stuff in a radioactive decay situation.

EDIT: On a side note, BOOYA!!! First green bar! happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-06-24 at 17:00:53
Hm... are u sure about the time travel factor? there is an accurate theory that when u travel near speed of light, time moves slower for u. Time travel should not bring the whole universe back, it should bring you back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-24 at 17:10:01
Even if time moves slower for you, you still won't be able to go back into time to something you have already experienced, right? It has already past, going forward in time, but slower won't change that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-06-25 at 18:08:14
If your theory is true, then it is bound that all the forces are bound to time, which as u stated is a constant flow of energy. So all you have to do is change time, and that will change everything else. Unless there is no connection there, and the universe is much more random then i thought. (this is a secondary theory of mine if the first argument didnt convince u)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-06-25 at 22:29:38
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Jun 24 2005, 12:29 PM)

I refer to the Matrix quote 'Everything that has a beginning has an end.' when I say that if the universe never began then it will never end. We as humans conceived infinity and yet we refuse to beleive that the universe or 'time' (Time is only the transfer of energy at the rate we perceive it, nothing more) is infinite. Since everything we know begins and ends we must apply it to that we do not yet fully understand.
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If you really think about it though, what does have a beginning or end? instead everyhting we perceive just changes it's state.

QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Jun 24 2005, 12:29 PM)
There are three states of energy, balance, chaos, and order.
Balance is a state where, though there is energy present, no energy transfers.
Chaos is the uncontrolled and 'random' (Nothing is truely random, something random is simply something we cannot predict because we do not know all the factors.) state of energy, where tranfer happens extremely fast.
Order is energy in a loop that is controllable, such as the rotation of planets or ecosystems.
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I dont think that the middle category of energy should exist, you your self sad that it doesnt really exist but instead is really just orderd energy transfer that we dont see all the factors to understand
also, this system of energy has already been conceived of just not in these words. In chemistry there are diffrent types of energy, you balance energy is the equivilant of what chemists call potential energy, or energy that is stored but is not currently active. as for your order energy, ithey ususally jsut call that energy in general, but it can have many forms such as heat transfer, electical, kinetic energy and the such.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-06-25 at 22:44:21
I think chaos does lead to some kind of order, I mean take subatomic things that deal with quantum physics and look what happens when things get supersized and deals with general relativity, it's chaotic at the subatomic level and orderly, or balanced, whatever the term is when things get larger.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by D)s-202 on 2005-06-29 at 15:27:17
im killin g my brother with this confusing him a lot but hwere it is
in the afterlife(if tehre is on) U HAVE @ FEEL SOMTHING dont u ? ok listenm up something HAS to happen 2 u . u HAve to feel something but u cant feel anything cause yur dead are u stuck in yyur body not being able 2 do about it cry.gif ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-07-02 at 14:49:10
Well, say you die and there is no afterlife. You wouldn't remember anything because you no longer exist. You see? Your brain can't function and you can't think or do anything at all because you don't exist. Your body may, but you don't...

But no worries! After thinking about it, you have to go to some sort of afterlife. Think about this: how much energy is in your body at any given moment? Alot. Up to the point you die you can still transfer a great amount of energy. All the heat, chemical, kenetic, and so on energy that you body deals with every second. WHERE DOES IT ALL GO? There is no explosion when you die. There is ablosutely no way the energy leaves you, unless it is kept with your sould when you progress to the afterlife. It may have some flaws, but that's what I think...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-07-02 at 18:01:20
How can the universe be infinite? Humans cannot apprehend infinity! Don't tell me you can apphrehend each individual dead skin cell on your hand!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-07-02 at 18:23:32
What I mean by comprehend infinity is think of what infinity is. Infinity is infinity. There you go, you just comprehended it. Comprehending infinity doesn't mean you have to actually be able to think of an infinite amount of stuff.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-07-02 at 18:39:49
Just saying "infinity" is "infinity" is like saying a "nanometer" is a "nanometer". We cannot comphrehend how small a nanometter is. We cannot comphrehend how many cells there are on this keyboard.

And no, I cannot comprehend "infinity" as you say it. If you try to think of the largest number possible, just add one, then one more, and one more. "inifnity" is the largest number that does not exist. Therefore, it cannot be comphrehended.

It's also looking at words you don't know. If you see a word like "microcasm", your probably don't know what it is. Sure you can "see" the word, but you have no clue what it means. Does that mean you are comprehending the meaning of microcasm? Of course not!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-07-05 at 03:00:52
Scientifically, its bullshit, but sure, why not?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-05 at 15:50:25
What is "bullshit" and how is it bullshit?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-07-05 at 17:37:16
QUOTE(Shapechanger @ Jul 2 2005, 11:49 AM)
There is no explosion when you die. There is ablosutely no way the energy leaves you, unless it is kept with your sould when you progress to the afterlife. It may have some flaws, but that's what I think...
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Energy leaves "you" as a physical being. It then is transfered to smaller organisms that assist in the decomposition process.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-05 at 18:43:56
Everything has "energy" because everything is made up of atoms, right?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-07-05 at 19:00:37
I guess these "Energy Bars" probably have tons of atoms compacted into them i guess wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-05 at 20:12:45
No, they are packed with the type of energy we can use, in the form of like I guess carbs, fats, proteins, and stuff like that. All matter has energy I believe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-06 at 06:02:28
Your chaos energy cant really exist because we just dont have enough technology to describe it as order energy.

And what of reincarnation, is that not another form of the afterlife, that your soul (not memories) are put into a newborn's body at the second of birth? I think its just some weird visions I have, but sometimes I can imagine my past life, but that just might be odd daydreams.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-06 at 12:52:18
Uh, Parthx, your probably not imagining a past life, its just the LSD.

But really, I dont think we get reincarnated. And if we DID get reincarnated and put into a new body and forgot all about the old one... We didn't really get reincarnated because we'd be completely different.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-06 at 12:57:03
To let you know, I am anti-drug, I hate drugs, and I have never done them. But doesn't anyone ever just see little flashes of things, maybe even in your dreams?

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But really, I dont think we get reincarnated. And if we DID get reincarnated and put into a new body and forgot all about the old one... We didn't really get reincarnated because we'd be completely different.


But the soul/spirit is still the same is it not?

If there was a heaven or hell, both would be SO crowded, have you realized how many people have died in the past 100 years? What about the past 1000 years?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-06 at 13:18:30
And then who said Heaven and Hell weren't both infinitely large places?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-06 at 13:22:09
Nobody, but nobody said it was either.
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