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Ok, through scientist studies the world temputure has gone 1 degree up throughout the whole world in under 10 years, if it goes up another 4 degrees that will cause a meltdown of the artic places. So if pollution is rising and we arent doing nothing about it our lives will basically be screwed. We would never ever have the fruits, cows(beef) or anything like that. The only thing is fish and seafoods. I personally think this is a serious discussion

Well, if the north pole melts, who the hell cares? It wont affect the sea levels if the north pole melts, because the ice is already in the water, y'know? Hell, it might lower sea levels if anything.

The Antarctic though? If we start having serious problems there... we're in deep shit.

But anyways, we can't stop pollution. It's going to keep happening, no matter what. We can lower it a bit, perhaps, but the goddamn corporations will keep on doing it unless we impose big fines. And then, they will go and pollute countries without fines for that shit.

I'm sorry for going off topic, but we are getting screwed with fish. People are overfishing TOO much. OK now that I'm back, pollution will definately affect our lifestyle in the next few years. The air will be to thick to breath and the water will be contaminated with poisons. The animals we need for food may be extinct and people will start dying of water poisoning/dehydration and starvation. Let's just hope people will start cleaning up their act, because this is NOT a future i would like to live in.

It is already in the water, but not the entire thing. Part of it is sticking out, and the mass in there will add to the water level.

Actually, ice is less dense then water, so no, it would not add the water level.

Snake, think about what you're saying for a minute, theres a WHOLE LOT of ice that isn't submerged in the north pole, a WHOLE LOT, easily enough to raise sea level all around the world. Plus, if sea level isn't enough, the massive influx of fresh water (or was it salt, one or the other) would mess up the mid atlantic conveyer, which is what stops a large portion of Europe from falling into an Ice age. Down here in the US we wouldn't get that extreme an effect, but we would still experiance a great deal of cooling.

A whole lot of ice that isn't submerged? Do you mean ice that is on land, or parts of icebergs sticking out of water? The former could be dangerous, but the melting of the latter would only remove navigational hazards.

And besides, even if the world raises 5 degrees over the next 50 years, will it ultimately be enough to heat up the arctic climate from below zero to above 32 degrees?

If all of the ice in the entire world that's on land melted, the sea level would rise 70 meters. But, I don't know how much the temperature would have to rise for that to happen. But I assume 5 degrees could have some sort of impact.

Well the thing is, nobody mentioned the type of measure, so I assumed fahrenheit. But if the temperature rose 5 degrees celsius... Ice cap go bye bye!

And the ice caps are already melting pretty fast anyways. We WILL have an ice age, no matter what. And after the ice age there will be a major spike in temperature, which will melt the icecaps again and... Ice Age Cycle!

But don't take it too bad. It'll be more like eternal winter in temperate zones, but if you live in canada or russia, zip your body bags up now!

But we should take that badly. That would shove a baseball bat right up nature's ass. All of the trees would die, so bugs that eat parts of trees will die, and it will be one huge chain reaction. Eventually, us, humans will get our's. The trees thing is just one example too, I'm sure there's many more.

In the next 50 years, all of the oxygen in this planet will be gone and we will all suffocate

i think in the next 50 years the place will not be earth it will be waterworld! with sealions as ur pets and ur dolphins for teh fun!

Incorrect. a lot of ice in the north pole is above the water, so it doesnt count toward sea level. therefore, it might increase the worlds sea level by about a centimeter... i dont know actually, but it will increase.

Uhh, did you read the entire ing post?

I SAID THE ANTARCTIC. SOUTH POLE. THAT ICE IS ON LAND, NOT IN THE WATER!

So it WILL affect the seal level.



As for the North Pole, Ice is less dense than water, so the ice floats and some is above the sea. But if the ice in the sea melted, it wouldnt affect the sea level because the ice will just turn to liquid and still displace the same amount of water.

You know what would solve this problem very, very quickly? Finish developing Hydrogen fuel-cells to a workable amount, and mass produce them in ten years. Also, replace all the coal and oil power plants with nuclear or alternate energy sources. We won't need to use dirty gasoline (perhaps oil for lubrication purposes, but there are alternatives there as well), and we can get our plastics from the oils from trees and stuff.

We can also build incinerators to burn our trash and produce electricity (and you'd be surprised at how clean these incinerators actually are). Also, we could develop methods to recycle all the precious materials found in dumps. Eventually hydrogen fuel will rule out even nuclear, and the world will be clean and happy and prosperous for all the forest animals! Yay!

I know you said that the trash-burning idea is clean, but by logic I would assume that what they burned would pollute the atmosphere/air.

What are you crazy people talking about none of this will happen in the next 50 years.. Also, if the freaking ice caps melt the sea level will rise so much..

Well, if the seal levels rise, it cant be TOO bad unless you live on the coasts. About 12 miles inland should be safe, depending on elevation. If you live in holland though, kill yourself now, cause you'll get screwed over.

Many big and important cities lie along the coasts, like New York and LA. So even if only the coastal cities are affected, that's still a huge chunk of people drowning.

Well if the ice caps melt, how long will that be? I don't think it would all melt quickly would it? If it's slow and the sea level rises slowly, I think people would have time to evacuate, and also in big cities they have big skyscapers to go in.

Yea but those people in those skyscrapers would be trapped there and soon die. But it's going to be a long while until sea level overruns the coastal cities.

Use helicopters to save as many as you can, it could be like the movie The Day After Tomorrow.

People won't do anything until it's too late. That's how it works. They will continue polluting until they actually start to lose money because of flooding, massive change in climate, whatever.

Wait, did I say money? Yeah, that's right. Earth is the most greedyass place there is. People won't do anything unless they gain money from it, or unless it prevents them from losing more money.

BTW small temperature change around the entire planet will completely alter all weather factors. When the temperature rises, the ice melts, then it cools down. The temperature rises more, it melts more, it cools down more. The difference between the temperature extremes will increase, creating a wider gap for "change".. as well as increase ocean levels.


Also, ICE is a solid. When it melts into water, it will expand. So melting in the north pole also contibutes, it's not just the south pole.

One degree change in the CLIMATE (not weather) changes the earth dramatically...

Doesn't ice take up more space than water though? I thought it was like one of those few exceptions, like if you fill a bottle up with water then freeze it the bottle will get all cracked and stuff because the ice expanded.

Also I agree with the money part, but if they actually realize their LIFE is in immediate danger to where if they don't do anything to stop it I think most people, even the greediest of them, would realize that they have to save their life

I found this other example online as to why you can tell ice takes up less space than water: