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Staredit Network -> Serious Discussion -> Should we be banned......
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-05 at 11:05:28
I was just going through the old closed topics, and found the one that I created about the moderators. Now i'm all over the fact that it got closed, but as I read, I began to see some things in there, that piss me off now.

For example, do you guys think that calling someone immature is a flame? Is that not stating that their mind has not fully developed? Do you see any flame in saying that in your opinion someone is immature?

I really don't want to bring it up because I mite get warned for it (and then i'll be gone) but seriously. Warning someone for opinion, isn't that a bit.... Childish or even stupid? I'm not saying the person is stupid or childish, I am saying their actions are childish, or even stupid.

Cause as members of SEN, and how we participate in the Serious Discussion forum, aren't we entilted to our opinions?

I would just like to bring this up so we may have an intelligent discussion about this. And please. Don't flame or spam or become a "Devilesk" (wink.gif Just givin ya crap Devil) just for the sake of SEN.

Please?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-07-05 at 12:10:59
Correcting moderators here is forbidden, as is pointing out flaws in what they're doing, even though you're just trying to let them know you don't like it (not insulting them).

I can't use the acronym QED (after being asked to explain something really obvious) without getting a verbal warning telling me never to use it again. You can't please everyone, so just try to please the people you like.

I don't think it's immature to treat moderators like other members, and to question authority. But the authority will almost never enjoy this experience, so you have to be very concise if you want them to listen.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-05 at 12:19:16
Kellimus, you're younger than me. Calling me immature is a really big insult to me.

Phycho, QED is slang and ment to be very insulting where I come from. What does it mean to you?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-05 at 12:24:30
I'm 18. How old are you?

I don't want to be rude but, are everything anyone says insults to you? Cause I didn't mean immature in the way that you're trying to percieve it as. I meant as if someone has an immature min.

Hmm.... Guess I shoulda specified that eairlier......
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HaBiT on 2005-07-05 at 12:26:03
From what Kellimus said, hes calling your actions immature not you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-05 at 12:30:43
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jul 5 2005, 11:24 AM)
Hmm....  Guess I shoulda specified that eairlier......
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Yeah, maybe you should have. But I still disagree with you and I still would consider that an insult.

I'm 20. Many of the moderators are about my age or older than me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-05 at 12:30:48
Honestly, chuiu, I think some of your actions are immature.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-05 at 12:31:24
I dont think any of my moderating actions are immature. But I do act immature at times, yes.

Point something out in the appropriate thread for it.

Oh yeah, I dont think anyone has been banned for posting their opinion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-05 at 12:32:24
I think warning someone for stating a reasonable opinion not meant to be insulting is immature, yes?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-05 at 12:32:43
Example?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-05 at 12:38:59
QUOTE(Chuiu_os)
I dont think any of my moderating actions are immature.


I don't want to be rude but, isn't warning me because of my opinion, kind of immature? And you didn't even give a verbal warning either, so I think that could add to it.

I'm not trying to start a fight or get myself banned, but I just don't understand why you didn't follow the procedures like mods are supposed to (at least I thought that had procedures...)

ADDITION:
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 5 2005, 09:31 AM)
I dont think any of my moderating actions are immature.  But I do act immature at times, yes.

Point something out in the appropriate thread for it.

Oh yeah, I dont think anyone has been banned for posting their opinion.
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Not banned, but Warned. I typed banned when I meant warned, simple and stupid mistake.

QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Jul 5 2005, 09:32 AM)
I think warning someone for stating a reasonable opinion not meant to be insulting is immature, yes?
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QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 5 2005, 09:32 AM)
Example?
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An example is this:

QUOTE(chuiu_os)
Well I'm going to go through my immature power trip and warn you for flaming. Thats one to go before you get banned. Congrats!


And I did ask Kame if I got warned, and she said yes. So did Clokr_
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-05 at 12:38:59
Well, Kellimus, if you WERE banned, it would be horrible for chuiu because he would blatantly be acting immature to everyone viewing this thread.

Imagine:

Chuiu: Im not immature.
Kellimus: I dont agree.
Chuiu: OMFG YOU'RE BANNED
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-05 at 12:41:25
That wasn't JUST an opinion, it was a flame. You got warned for that. I'm fine with you pointing out how we aren't doing our jobs right but when you go around saying we're immature little kids then it turns into a flame. I'm sorry if you can't see that but I also don't see you going to the right people or right topics to deal with it. You just keep making new topics. Why dont you post where I asked you to to deal with this sort of stuff?

ADDITION:
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ Jul 5 2005, 11:38 AM)
Chuiu: Im not immature.
Kellimus: I dont agree.
Chuiu: OMFG YOU'RE BANNED
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Him calling me immature is a flame. I never said I would ban him for that, but he's at 80% warn level right now. And guess what? It's all for flaming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-05 at 12:43:03
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 5 2005, 09:39 AM)
That wasn't JUST an opinion, it was a flame.  You got warned for that.  I'm fine with you pointing out how we aren't doing our jobs right but when you go around saying we're immature little kids then it turns into a flame.  I'm sorry if you can't see that but I also don't see you going to the right people or right topics to deal with it.  You just keep making new topics.  Why dont you post where I asked you to to deal with this sort of stuff?
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How is it a flame? It is opinion. I don't know if you're little kids, I just generalized it to most forums.

Seriously, how is saying that a flame?

But to add to that, I also posted this:

QUOTE(Kellimus)
Exactly, and the action was, instead of posting this: "Well I'm going to go through my immature power trip and warn you for flaming. Thats one to go before you get banned. Congrats!" to investigate further. You should have asked my why I said that. And chances are, I probibly would have said this: "From what I have seen, most the MODs here are immature. I haven't seen you on very much, so I am sorry if I have offended you"

But no, you didn't ask questions or investigate like a MOD should. You just went ahead and said, "Well I'm going to go through my immature power trip and warn you for flaming. Thats one to go before you get banned. Congrats!"

So. If you're wondering if i'm putting the blame on you. Yes, I am. Not all of it, cause I shouldn't have went off like that, but most of it, for you not doing your job.


See, if you would have done that, I wouldn't have complained. If someone flames, there is usually a verbal warning, correct?

At least there should be.

QUOTE(Chuiu_os)
Him calling me immature is a flame


You're the only one that thinks it is a flame. Everyone else here believes it is opinion.

So seriously. How is calling someon immature, a flame? Why do you take things people say so seriously?

I don't even know you so why do you take offence to it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-05 at 12:45:32
No, if someone flames there is usually a warn level added with a verbal warning. Especially if you've already been warned 3 times for flaming. And I don't see how you don't see how calling someone older than you is an insult and a flame. Seriously, take it up in the right thread.

Edit: I've already told you why I take offense to it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-07-05 at 12:49:49
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 5 2005, 12:19 PM)
Kellimus, you're younger than me.  Calling me immature is a really big insult to me.

Phycho, QED is slang and ment to be very insulting where I come from.  What does it mean to you?
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Age doesnt matter, once again. There people who are 20 and you could swear theyre 10! But whatever.


No, I don't think our opinion is held back. But then again... I never complain... smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-07-05 at 12:53:50
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Phycho, QED is slang and ment to be very insulting where I come from. What does it mean to you?

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Latin. quod erat demonstrandum (which was to be demonstrated).


It's not slang where I come from. It's said when something has been undeniably proved. I'm getting damn tired of people telling me the words I use are slang, even though they're not. After telling someone they were being a dolt they replied along the lines of "i dont know what dolt means, i dont follow your censored.gif ed up slang" which is oddly convienent.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-05 at 12:58:21
I make fun of people older than me all the time, and they don't get "butt hurt" over it. They know it's a joke. But when I wrote that, I meant it. Because of the simple fact, that most the mods I had come in contact with (excluding you) had shown signs of immaturity and act childish.

But now (no offence) you are acting kind of childish because you cannot seem to understand that being called "immature" and being "immature", are two different aspects.

And I just got word that I have four warnings for "Flamming", and one of them is, "For calling someone an idiot".

How many people get warned for that? Seriously. Isn't that stupid to warn someone for calling someone an idiot, when people do it all the time and don't get warned for it?

Why am I the only that gets warned for these things?

Anyways, I still cannot comprehend how you get so "butt hurt" (Iritated. Whatever word you want to use here) over someone two years younger then you, calling you "immature" when they don't even know you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-05 at 13:00:05
I said where I come from it's slang, it certainly doesn't resemble the definition you posted. I didn't know thats what it actually ment.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-05 at 13:01:34
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 5 2005, 10:00 AM)
I said where I come from it's slang, it certainly doesn't resemble the definition you posted.  I didn't know thats what it actually ment.
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Not to intrude on your discussion, but doesn't that kind of prove something? That maybe you are to hasty in using your powers, and you should investigate the situation more?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-07-05 at 13:04:08
I think it's safe to say that on the internet, people are going by the dictionary. In the future, it's safe for you to assume that at least I always am.

You're not the only one Kellimus, the only difference is that we did it to different moderators.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-07-05 at 13:05:41
What are you talking about? Chu asked nicely what it meant.

QUOTE(Chu)
Phycho, QED is slang and ment to be very insulting where I come from. What does it mean to you?


QUOTE(Psycho)
After telling someone they were being a dolt they replied along the lines of "i dont know what dolt means, i dont follow your :censored:ed up slang" which is oddly convienent.


That must prove something right there, right? Where people jump all over someone for asking a question? I seem to not see the part where Chu says " censored.gif ed up slang"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-05 at 13:07:01
Psy was using a different topic as his example, Kame.

He was just saying that maybe Chuiu shouldn't be to hasty to warn people, because it creates missunderstandings.

At least that is what I think he is trying to say.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-07-05 at 13:07:28
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jul 5 2005, 10:07 AM)
Psy was using a different topic as his example, Kame.
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ah. I see. I back down, then.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-05 at 13:11:48
Like I said, I never knew QED had another meaning so how else am I going to take it but the meaning I know? I don't go looking up things I already understand. I was obviously wrong, but I still dont see how thats immature or bad of me - anyone else would do the same thing. All you had to do was point out what it really ment. No harm done. Also, Psycho was using a PM I sent him. I'll be more cautious in the future but it's little misunderstandings like this that happen everywhere in everyday life.
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jul 5 2005, 11:58 AM)
I make fun of people older than me all the time, and they don't get "butt hurt" over it.  They know it's a joke.  But when I wrote that, I meant it.  Because of the simple fact, that most the mods I had come in contact with (excluding you) had shown signs of immaturity and act childish.

But now (no offence) you are acting kind of childish because you cannot seem to understand that being called "immature" and being "immature", are two different aspects.

You said:
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All the other ones don't know jack dittily squat about how to be a MOD, and are just immature little kids with power trips.

You made it sound more like an insult than a statement, and you cannot deny that.
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jul 5 2005, 11:58 AM)
And I just got word that I have four warnings for "Flamming", and one of them is, "For calling someone an idiot".

How many people get warned for that?  Seriously.  Isn't that stupid to warn someone for calling someone an idiot, when people do it all the time and don't get warned for it?

Why am I the only that gets warned for these things?

Anyways, I still cannot comprehend how you get so "butt hurt" (Iritated.  Whatever word you want to use here) over someone two years younger then you, calling you "immature" when they don't even know you.
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You're not the only one to get warned for stuff like that. And insult is an insult and we ask all members not to do that.
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 5 2005, 11:31 AM)
Point something out in the appropriate thread for it.
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QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 5 2005, 11:41 AM)
Why dont you post where I asked you to to deal with this sort of stuff?
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QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jul 5 2005, 11:45 AM)
Seriously, take it up in the right thread.
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Now, please stop ignoring me and post int he right thread for this stuff. Stop making new threads when there is already one for the same purpose.
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