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Why do we have pain. How does it help us when we are running away from a madman with a knife to have the pain of the huge cut he gave you on your arm? The answer is, it doesn't. Why do we have pain? Pain does not help us when we are trying to think straight. When we are sick and we are in terrible pain, the pain doesn't help us get better. When you bang your knee cap into your desk by accident, why does it have to hurt so intensely? When you are a little child and you have to get that horrible shot at the doctor, why does it have to be so uncomfortable?

Why do we fear things? When that madman is chasing you with a butcher knife, being afraid doesn't help you think of a clear way to escape the situation.

On the other hand, sometimes the sense of feeling can help. For example, if you feel your friend tap you on the shoulder, it helps to have felt it happen. When you step outside, it helps to feel what the weather is like. But this still doesn't give us an explanation for the horrible feeling of pain.

One can come to conclude that there is no logical point of pain, except for one thing. Stupidity. Plain, and simple. Stupidity. The stupidity of our mind that thinks. What you use to think about what words to type in your sentence, or what 5+5 is. This is our conscious mind. It is stupid because it does not know when to stop. If it wasn't for pain, and the fear of it, it wouldn't be hard for a mentally healthy person to cut his/her own wrists. But, in reality, a mentally healthy person cannot cut their own wrist, because it would hurt too much. Or, without the fear of death (and perhaps pain), it would be easy for a mentally healthy person to put a loaded gun to their head and kill themselves.

If it was not for pain, we could easily stick our hands inside of a fire. If it was not for pain, we wouldn't know where and where not to go, like walking into a bee's nest.

And why is it that people are so afraid of dying? Most people are religious and believe they will go to heaven, or some form of it. Yet we are all afraid to die.

So of all of this, what can I conclude? That the only reason for pain and fear is to stop our dumb selves from killing ourselves.

This is all a theory of mine, what do you think?

I don't really know what you're trying to say... Pain is the body's way of saying "Oh shit, you better not do that again". Nerves are just what help us survive. It's really cold, you think, "Oh shit, I better get warm" if you trip and you scrap your knee you think "Oh shit, I better take care of that.

Pain isn't a bad thing, it's just a tool of survival. You can ignore pain if it's neccessary you do something. For example, the phrase, "No pain, no game" describes that perfectly. Don't want to run when you're tired? You won't win then. But if you don't need to run when you're tired, rest.

There's nothing really to discuss here =/

Pain is designed to let us know when something is wrong, or when we are in danger. The entire point of pain is for detecting a wound, and the only reason that you would need to detect such a wound would be to make sure that it doesn't get bad enough that you die. So yes, pain exists to keep you from dying.

A perfect illustration of this is the few people who have indirectly died from being to tall (can't think of any names right now). I remember a person who was 8 feet tall (or something around there), and eventually he lost feeling in his legs (simply because he was too tall). Eventually, he died because he got a wound in his foot from a problem with his shoes. It eventually got infected, and he died. The only reason that it got to that point was because he couldn't feel the pain. So yes, pain exists to keep you from dying.

Worse injuries hurt more because if it hurts more you will take more care of it, if you had an appendix that needed to be removed, without pain you wouldn't feel it. If you touched an unknown object that was boiling hot, your hands would start bubbling.

Rofl, we shouldn't have pain? I can think of MANY ways pain helps us, one thing being that IT MAKES US HURT.

I like your "we could stick our hands in fire without pain". Yea we would burn our hands off too. Pain makes us NOT DO THINGS THAT WOULD KILL OURSELVES.

And what about "silent" killers with no visible symptons except the pain you are feeling. Such as a stroke or heartattack. How are you supposed to get help if you don't know you are going to die because you can't feel the pain?

Or if you break your leg, yea lets not feel pain so we can just go around walking all day without giving our leg a chance to heal, pain tells us what is hurting our bodies and to stop doing whatever we're doing to give our bodies a chance to heal.

Here's another situation, you could walk up to someone, cut them in the back and they won't feel any pain, they'll just ignore it until they bleed to death. The cut would be minor enough to just require a few stitches if cared for, but if left alone the person would die, because he can't feel the pain.

And about committing suicide, try taking taking some drugs to numb yourself like the anesthetics they use in surgery then try slitting your wrists! And overall all the pros of feeling pain greatly outweight the cons of pain, especially if one of your reasons is "You won't be afraid to slit your wrists"

Plus in real life if theres absolutely too much pain where you'll die, they can always give you drugs once again.

And about the bees, yes lets walk into a big swarm of bees and get stung thousands of times until we die, yes it's possible.

Pain isn't a horrible feeling, you should be thankful you feel pain. Some athletes think it's a wonderful feeling to feel pain during an intense workout because then they know they are training hard enough.

And that "horrible" shot at the doctor, come on, that's nothing to some of the more real life threatening pain there is. It's a shot get over it, the kid's not going to die because he feels a little "sting". Life isn't painfree and if it was life would suck.

Heh I think if we didn't feel pain then your committing suicide idea would be right. People would kill themselves because life would be so damn stupid.

I'm sorry but I think this is the most pointless theory ever.

Hmm... maybe I didn't make my point clearly. My point is, why does it have to be so uncomfortable. Devilisk, read my post again on this part:

"On the other hand, sometimes the sense of feeling can help. For example, if you feel your friend tap you on the shoulder, it helps to have felt it happen. When you step outside, it helps to feel what the weather is like. But this still doesn't give us an explanation for the horrible feeling of pain."

This is my main point. I understand that if someone cuts you in the back, you should feel it, that's obvious. But why does it have to hurt so horribly? Why can't you somehow sense that you got hurt, but not have it make you so uncomfortable. Jet Blast made a good point that I never thought of. "Worse injuries hurt more because if it hurts more you will take more care of it".

If we, as human beings, were smart enough, we would know that a huge cut in the back needs serious medical attention, without the feeling of pain. But the pain makes us take care of it right away. So therefore, again, we need pain to survive, but it's because we're too dumb.

Think about this, I knew someone who got strep throat. It seemed like a common cold to them, whatever, they didn't go to the doctor because the pain was not THAT bad. But next thing they know they're in the hospital becuase the strept throat had gotton close to their heart, and the person almost died. There is an example where pain did not do its job.

Physical pain isn't a bad feeling, that's all in your head. If you think it's uncomfortable, that's your problem. If you're like me, you feel it, but that's about it, you know in the back of your head you'll have to something about it soon. Pain is a "blessing", not a fault.

You can't be so smart you can know something with no experience related to it.

Strep throat is very diffrent from a cold. Whenever you notice any irregularity in something normal to you, you should consult an expert.

"If you think it's uncomfortable, that's your problem."

Tell me what you mean by "uncomfortable". The way I see you saying it is this:

In order to fall asleep (unless you're extremely tired) you need to be comfortable. So, you're saying that because pain doesn't make you uncomfortable, if a bee stung you on the neck while you were trying to fall asleep, you wouldn't become uncomfortable and therefore ignore it and just continue trying to fall asleep.

Haven't bothered reading any of the replies, so this has probably been said, but...
This is common sense. It's not new. Most people that think more than ten seconds a day could tell you the same thing.

Its a chemical reaction of body fluids/tissue touching air or outside organisms that they usually don't get a chance to react to.

To set apart life from death.

Are you saying you don't find pain uncomfortable?

To the OP:

If pain wasn't uncomfortable, there'd be no reason to get in a hurry to fix the cause. Is this thread a joke?

See, without the pain you might think of it as someone just bumped you instead of cutting you, you might not notice it at all, and therefore ignore it.

And as PsychoTemplar says it only feels uncomfortable because you believe it is.

And a bee did sting me in the neck I could probably fall asleep, and also even if I was in pain.


And "pain" has no job, it's just a feeling, it's like a "tool" for you to use, just because you might not feel pain doesn't mean everything's normal. But if you do feel pain then theres a problem for sure.

Plus saying "why can't pain not be uncomfortable" is just whining. It's how life is and you can't change that without changing your body with chemicals.


BTW: Your point wasn't just to say why can't pain not be uncomfortable. You said:



As your theory, and no that's wrong. You also said pain is useless, that's very different from saying why can't it be uncomfortable.



BTW: I just thought of something, from looking back at that stupidity thing. If everytime you cut yourself and you felt GOOD instead of feeling bad PAIN then you would do it again right? By pain making you feel bad it teaches you that it's BAD to do that to your body, we learn from physical experience, it's the quickest way to learn. You put your hand over the stove, it burns you and it hurts. You learn from the bad pain to not do it again. It's probably a simple evolutionary trait that came from our ancestors who didn't think too much and just learned from pain.

I think even really stupid animals learn from pain as well, it doesn't require much thought.

In short you LEARN from feeling pain. It's the best way I think to learn.

Yeah exactly, have you ever noticed, when you're in a fight, you get punched in the face, you're gonna punch back, and the pain just goes to the back of your head, because you care more about beating the crap outta this guy. Then when the fights over and you're walking home all smug, you're gonna realize your face hurts, you need to take care of it. The more it hurts, the worse it is right? Well the worse it is the more urgent it is to take care of it right? So if it hurts alot, your brain sets it as a priority to get better

Your face doesn't hurt because of the all the adrenaline.

I do believe that people have the ability to ignore pain, but in a fight's case, it's mainly the adreneline.

I see, but anyway, we've explained pain.

Fear, I think fear just occurs to get the adrenaline pumping, which as explained, helps ignore pain. With adrenaline, doesn't that make you stronger too, haven't their been cases of women lifting cars to save their children? Imagine lying in bed, with the lights off and its pretty late, now you see someone dressed in dark clothes, walking suspicously around your house. Fear begins, adrenaline occurs, now you can probably go hit that person and itll hurt like hell. Fear and pain and there to save your life.

Adrenaline does make you stronger, but I don't know about lifting cars...

Well, I've heard it, and I know people that have seen it actually happen. I didn't believe it at first either, till I first felt adrenaline to its max. I was about to smash through a door without opening it cause I was running at it wildly, but then I found out that it was nothing to be afraid of (its a real long story) and then my memory just blanked out about what had happened.

Doesn't this show that emotions pwn thoughts at some points?

We have pain because we just do.
We have fear because we just do.

Really, it's just the way we're made. It's quite an enigma.

If someone stabs you in the back with a knife, and you don't feel it, you would just let them keep doing it.

And, getting stabbed and feeling pain is like it's saying "Your body is getting injured"

Its letting you know that your body is being damaged, and you better stop getting hurt before your GG'd.

Why do we have pain and fear? I mean, WHY?????

This is one of those topics that have a simple answer, yet some people try to make it extremely abstract and complicated.

Lol yea lots of topics are like this nowadays. But i guess it's good for many of our post counts and minerals since we're just in love with them

Yes, good point.

(Just got more minerals)

Exactly what I was thinking in my first post, this topic is pointless.

It's like trying to figure out the meaning of life, but with this you can just say, WE FEEL PAIN BECAUSE WE JUST DO! LOL.

No, its not like answer the reason of life, because this does have an answer, given above.