Report, edit, etc...Posted by glytchur on 2005-07-08 at 12:04:03
This is for anybody who is going to or has asked how to make cliffs. Read this and post any questions this tutorial doesn't answer...
First off its better to know how to make the basic cliffs (dirt to high dirt):
In the pallette the tiles are all mixed up, but each cliff type is in a 1x6 line, u need to place the bottom piece, then the piece 2 blocks above that is the block that goes above it, and same with that piece, a piece in the pallette (usually) goes next to the piece 1 block above or under it...
the line of the cliff type from the pallette, and the cliff put together...
wrong way:
cliff
right way:
cliff
If u make a patch of water, and next to it a patch of high dirt in isom terrain, you'll get a nice tall cliff. You can use the 2 pieces that match the water cliff pieces with the high cliff pieces to make good cliffs (in the pallette there under the temple pieces in jungle, and under the structure pieces in badlands, there in the same main place in all tilesets),
(the 2 pieces that match the water cliff to high cliffs, the piece selected in the pallette and the piece under it)
2 certain pieces are ment to match 2 certain cliff types, as u can see here:
this is want u want to look for (this one is in badands) its about half way down, one of the last parts of the pallette before the lotsa null pieces that separate the isom terrain pieces from the doodads (in the starforge pallette)...
post any questions or anything...
another way (aka how rantent does cliffs) is make a high cliff with isom, then put the special tiles under each cliff, and make the bottom part, pretty much just doing it from top to bottom...
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these are some jungle cliff brushes i made a long time ago, i forgot about them for awhile, there far from perfect, but there still very usefull especially if u dont think yur real good at making cliffs, even if u know u are, they still cut down yur time by about 50% at least if u use these instead of using the tile palette...
First off its better to know how to make the basic cliffs (dirt to high dirt):
In the pallette the tiles are all mixed up, but each cliff type is in a 1x6 line, u need to place the bottom piece, then the piece 2 blocks above that is the block that goes above it, and same with that piece, a piece in the pallette (usually) goes next to the piece 1 block above or under it...
the line of the cliff type from the pallette, and the cliff put together...
wrong way:
cliff
right way:
cliff
If u make a patch of water, and next to it a patch of high dirt in isom terrain, you'll get a nice tall cliff. You can use the 2 pieces that match the water cliff pieces with the high cliff pieces to make good cliffs (in the pallette there under the temple pieces in jungle, and under the structure pieces in badlands, there in the same main place in all tilesets),
(the 2 pieces that match the water cliff to high cliffs, the piece selected in the pallette and the piece under it)
2 certain pieces are ment to match 2 certain cliff types, as u can see here:
this is want u want to look for (this one is in badands) its about half way down, one of the last parts of the pallette before the lotsa null pieces that separate the isom terrain pieces from the doodads (in the starforge pallette)...
post any questions or anything...
QUOTE(Rantent)
I would just like to say that after you make a cliff, there are three different ways to end the sides.
Simply breaking off one level at a time.
Ending one level abruptly.
Making another cliff block out the veiw of the taller one.
Here is an example containing all three, showing exactly what you can do with mixing and matching these ideas.
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Simply breaking off one level at a time.
Ending one level abruptly.
Making another cliff block out the veiw of the taller one.
Here is an example containing all three, showing exactly what you can do with mixing and matching these ideas.
[right][snapback]263273[/snapback][/right]
another way (aka how rantent does cliffs) is make a high cliff with isom, then put the special tiles under each cliff, and make the bottom part, pretty much just doing it from top to bottom...
[attachmentid=13131]
these are some jungle cliff brushes i made a long time ago, i forgot about them for awhile, there far from perfect, but there still very usefull especially if u dont think yur real good at making cliffs, even if u know u are, they still cut down yur time by about 50% at least if u use these instead of using the tile palette...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by slayer766 on 2005-07-08 at 14:25:39
Cool. Yeah that is pretty useful information you got there glytcher. 
There are alot of people that don't even know the basic concept of turing a regular ISOM cliff into a HUGE mountain type cliff. Well for one I don't know how to, but now I do thanks to you.
There are alot of people that don't even know the basic concept of turing a regular ISOM cliff into a HUGE mountain type cliff. Well for one I don't know how to, but now I do thanks to you.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-07-08 at 15:27:11
OMG I've been doing all my cliffs WRONG!!!! 
I just make a top part use the special tiles and make a bottom.
This could probably help a bunch of newcommers though.
I just make a top part use the special tiles and make a bottom.
This could probably help a bunch of newcommers though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by glytchur on 2005-07-08 at 15:29:50
ya...
ill add that...
ill add that...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-09 at 04:34:26
Wow, this is really helpful. *gives kiwi* It all... fits... together now!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-07-09 at 05:45:46
lol, I was sure I explained this as well ages ago...
You can find all the cliff 2x2 tiles, their top and bottom blends, and even the corner blends in my badlands set, too. But nothing beats learning how to do it yourself, of course.
You can find all the cliff 2x2 tiles, their top and bottom blends, and even the corner blends in my badlands set, too. But nothing beats learning how to do it yourself, of course.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Shattered_moose on 2005-07-09 at 11:22:43
Interesting, although I'm not quite sure that I understand what exactly you do.....
*Shatter goes to look at the screenshots again to try and clarify
*Shatter goes to look at the screenshots again to try and clarify
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-07-15 at 19:22:35
I would just like to say that after you make a cliff, there are three different ways to end the sides.
Simply breaking off one level at a time.
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Ending one level abruptly.
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Making another cliff block out the veiw of the taller one.
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Here is an example containing all three, showing exactly what you can do with mixing and matching these ideas.
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Simply breaking off one level at a time.
[attachmentid=11756]
Ending one level abruptly.
[attachmentid=11757]
Making another cliff block out the veiw of the taller one.
[attachmentid=11758]
Here is an example containing all three, showing exactly what you can do with mixing and matching these ideas.
[attachmentid=11760]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by noisuk on 2005-07-15 at 20:01:39
It looks sexy! 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FireStorm on 2005-07-15 at 20:47:21
wow nice cliffs there. i like the all three sides one.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-07-23 at 16:36:39
Those cliffs are really easy, I made some way when I just joined SEN
Seriously, but that work takes no more than 3-5 minutes. Does it not?
Seriously, but that work takes no more than 3-5 minutes. Does it not?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-07-23 at 17:02:11
Well, it depends on if you know what you want to make in the final product. The last picture took about 3 minutes. It's funner just making things up as you go, but it takes longer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by glytchur on 2005-07-23 at 17:23:42
rantent i just noticed u didnt add in yur overhang thing...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-07-23 at 17:53:45
Well, it's actually a compilation of the second and third endings.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hitl1r1 on 2005-07-23 at 21:55:05
I think they are still good 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-07-25 at 01:15:31
This is an enormous help
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2005-07-26 at 09:35:36
Even though I knew that, but it is a great help for those who doesn't knew that yet. Great work
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PlayaR on 2005-08-01 at 00:47:36
well that helps alot cuz i was jus confused on how to do cliffs b4 thx alot man
Report, edit, etc...Posted by InkPot on 2005-08-11 at 09:40:16
Glytcher, u put a "right" pic for cliff making.
But I can't understand how to make it ! Could you explain it a little bit more ?
Thanks for the effort.
But I can't understand how to make it ! Could you explain it a little bit more ?
Thanks for the effort.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by glytchur on 2005-08-11 at 12:52:49
im not sure how to explain it more, but ill see what i can do, ill talk to ppl and all, but do be sure to read the entire thing...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Corbo(MM) on 2005-08-12 at 23:45:29
my mouse pointer is bigger than yours
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oh yeah the topic -.- hmm pretty good it a good document to remember next time i do it i will use it
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woot i started a new page
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you have so many icons in your taskbar
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oh yeah the topic -.- hmm pretty good it a good document to remember next time i do it i will use it
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woot i started a new page
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you have so many icons in your taskbar
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fortune on 2005-08-16 at 08:53:57
I think this topic should be stickied, lots of people have trouble with this sort of thing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-08-19 at 02:07:07
thanks for the tip ill make sure that i use it next time
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-08-20 at 12:57:10
QUOTE(the_man103 @ Aug 19 2005, 12:07 AM)
thanks for the tip ill make sure that i use it next time
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I look forward to seeing some terrain that you have made, please post some within the week....
I love the tutorial tough.... *thinking* couldn't you mirror this and make large underwater pits?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by glytchur on 2005-08-20 at 18:46:19
unfortunately no because there no all water cliff piece... and the attacher pieces arent underwater, u can place pylon aura sprites over normal cliffs though...
me?
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I look forward to seeing some terrain that you have made, please post some within the week....
me?