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need help with two triggers.

in the snipers lock map u cannot unally a gun. how did they do taht and detect it when u unally a player?


And how do i do something like this?

condition: player 1 kills one anyunit owned by player 2
condition: etc

DT_Battlekruser, you've never played a sniper map? The way they do it is if you unally twice, you lose. Using your way, you can't detect it. If they keep preserving ally, then it won't work, since you won't fire. They have an ingenius system, and I love it.

wow thats a simple way 2 detect it haha nice

The condition is "Current Player has at least ___ opponents in game." What are you on boy? That condition exists, and I'm pretty sure it works. I'm not sure opponents is enemies though. Though, your way works too. It'd be "Foes command at least 1 Sniper." though, gun trap? rofl. The first solution doesn't work though.

ahah, lol. What else can fix the problem?

okay so i need answers to my questions

How did they do that thing in the snipers map? whats the condition?


and how do i make a condition where a players kills a unit owned by a certain player?

[center]All the players are allied. That's pretty simple. Here ya go:

Trigger

Description:

Alliance Trigger

Players:

¤ All Players

Conditions:

¤ Always

Actions:

¤ Set All Players to Allied Victory

¤ Preserve Trigger

This will detect if you unallied:

Trigger

Description:

Unally Detection

Players:

¤ All Players

Conditions:

¤ Current Player has at least 1 opponent remaining in the game.

Actions:

¤ Display text message: Don't unally noob!

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well what if there 2 teams ? I still want the guy to be allied to others on there own team......


but the first wquestion would be important if i can figure out how to make condition where player kills a unit owned by a certain player. if i can make this one i wouldnt need the one above. so let focus on question 2. THanks

I don't think any of these would work. You have opponents in the game ANYWAY, so there's absolutely no way to make it work the way you guys posted it.

Just a suggestion, search around before you post. Find the Trigger Viewer, and look at the triggers in the sniper map.

Sir_Fela_the_Wise, Ultimo already stated why your triggers wouldn't work. Read the posts before you post next time.

Unless opponent doesn't represent enemies, then my way wouldn't work. The other way that I think would work is using:

CONDITION:
Foes command at least 1 Sniper
ACTION:
Set All Players to Ally
Display Text Message: Don't Unally!
Preserve Trigger

But if you have two teams, all players on the opposite team are considered your foes or opponents.

Okay, well, that's pretty simple to solve. Just make some triggers to figure out how many opponents are in the game.

If you have 3, well you'd need 3 triggers to figure out how many opponents there are.

Trigger

Description:

Death Counter Example

Players:

¤ Team 1

Conditions:

¤ Player 1 commands 1 "Sniper"

Actions:

¤ Add 1 death for Team 1 Count

Then you might have a unit somewhere in-game so that the game can recognize if that player leaves. For example, a supply depot in a corner to signify that a player is present. Set a switch (or a death counter or something) to mark that the player had been in-game. Have another trigger constantly running to see if that player doesn't control that unit anymore, and if that player doesn't, then subtract 1 from the Team 1 Death Count.

Trigger

Description:

Unally Detection

Players:

¤ Team 2

Conditions:

¤ Has 1 death of Team 1 Count

¤ Has at least 2 opponents remaining

Actions:

¤ Display text "Don't unally noob!"

¤ Set Team 2 to Allied Victory

Is that what you want? I think I understand.

Deathknight, have you even played a Sniper Locks Map, better yet, made a map recently? Your trigger knowledge is a bit rusty. My first way of doing it doesn't work, but my second way, Commanding Foes, does work. You are considered a foe WHEN YOU ARE UNALLIED. Not since you're on different forces.

This map proves my theory.

Move the tank to the shard to try an unally the enemy.

Does using "foe" in a condition not work? I tried it with a trigger, and it didn't fire.

It works...You just have to have the conditions set for it right. -.-

Ultimo what's wrong with my (second) triggering?

I don't think Opponents can be used as a viable trigger, since opponents are amount of player/computers in the game? Alliance status doesn't affect opponents.

Seems to work just fine for me?

That detects allied victory, not alliance.

What? Fine, I'll change the settings. Let's see if it works. *Note* AV is off.

God dammit! The triggers can never work the way you want them to.

The action is misleading. Try whatever Ultimo said. Well, maybe it could be useful for a UMS map set up in melee style, if that'll ever be made. That way people can know who doesn't have AV on come the end, but other than it's worthless! Omfg! I'm mad.

Ok, maybe I am a bit "rusty" with the condition. But making maps or not has nothing to do with it.

The way I understand it is opponents are considered all that specific players' enemies. So if all other players are set to allied, that player then has zero opponents. Foe is a synonym for opponent.

If I have misunderstood the conditional player value, please correct me.

Apparently opponent is affected by allied victory.