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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-14 at 23:03:39
I'll let someone else kickstart this discussion because, frankly, I am too disgusted.

Fundamentalist Quotes
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-07-14 at 23:57:54
I find it hard to believe that these are actual, serious quotes, and not just some horriblly twisted sarcasm.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-15 at 00:07:09
im just halfway through it and im already disgusted. I laughed though when i got to george w. because that was so funny
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god told me to smote the terrorists

but then again i chuckled at almost everyones quotes because they are so stupid.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-07-15 at 00:15:06
Those are real quotes for anyone is having doubts. It's further reasons for why I hate dumb people. sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-15 at 00:30:43
I don't think this needs discussion, those people are f***ed up in the head
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-15 at 00:37:43
QUOTE(Parthx86 @ Jul 14 2005, 10:30 PM)
I don't think this needs discussion, those people are f***ed up in the head
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yeah its hard to make a comment on this topic because nothing needs to be said (i guess thats why Sir_Fela wanted to let some else start off the topic)

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George W. Bush wasn't elected president, he was appointed by god


(sigh) this comment made me sad, i never knew god had a mental disorder
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-15 at 00:49:57
Being as young as I am, I have no idea what a fundamentalist, but I'm guessing its just hardcore christian. (Heh, it has the word mental in it, wonder why happy.gif )

I think I've seen this list before, when my brother was ultra political. [sarcasm] oh yeah, this is my hitlist![/sarcasm] happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-07-15 at 00:55:05
Heh I got this from dictionary.com:
Fundamentalist

A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism.

I didn't really know it was about religion until I looked it up, I mostly saw the root word fundamental.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-07-15 at 01:23:47
Those people make me want to puke.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-15 at 01:58:02
I hate fundamentalists almost as much as I hate liberals, but this list is stupid.

Besides the fact that we don't know the context of these quotes, there are also some that aren't even bad, and that could have been said by anyone (or are obvious jokes):

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"We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war. There's a lot of talk in America about pluralism. But the bottom line is somebody's values will prevail. And the winner gets the right to teach our children what to believe."


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    "Behind this judicial wall of separation there is a tyranny of lies that will fall... I say to you, my friends, let it fall!"


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    "A good butt-whipping and then a prayer is a wonderful remedy."


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"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."


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"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."


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"Those who control the access to the minds of children will set the agenda for the future of the nation and the future of the western world."


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    "Civilized people – Muslims, Christians, and Jews – all understand that the source of freedom and human dignity is the Creator."


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"We need a legal strategy which protects the rights of those of us who hold Christian convictions which will afford us the opportunity to contend once again for the mind of this culture."


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"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."


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"If you commit a crime, you're guilty."


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"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"


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"The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned."
I should comment on this one. As athiest as I am, this is true. "Seperation of church and state" was invented later. Read the first ammendment.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-15 at 02:11:25
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"Behind this judicial wall of separation there is a tyranny of lies that will fall... I say to you, my friends, let it fall!"


He's talking about the separation of church and state.

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"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."


You smoke weed if you agree with that one.

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"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"


Once again you are smoking weed.

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"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."


--This one courtesy of the... oh come on... censored?... fine then... the hodiddlyhumbigger Rush Limbaugh.

Read up on history.

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"The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned."


The first part is accurate, somewhat. The last sentence should be burnt.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-15 at 02:26:26
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 15 2005, 12:58 AM)
I hate fundamentalists almost as much as I hate liberals, but this list is stupid.

Besides the fact that we don't know the context of these quotes, there are also some that aren't even bad, and that could have been said by anyone (or are obvious jokes):
I should comment on this one. As athiest as I am, this is true.  "Seperation of church and state" was invented later.  Read the first ammendment.
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So you claim yourselve to be a conservative or a moderate? Cause you DO know, all these people are right wing conservatives. I gurantee you can't find liberals that would say stuff that would shock you as MUCH as what these conservatives have said. There's a simple saying, and it goes:

"Conseratives wear the mask of good, the exact same way the devil would."
-Unknown
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-15 at 02:26:37
Well, like I said, some of those are obviously jokes. But the "you are with us or against us" attitude is not all that unreasonable.

Think about it:

If country A knows that country B is about to be attacked by terrorists and doesn't tell them, then it isn't very unreasonable to say that country B is against country A.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-15 at 02:27:42
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 15 2005, 01:26 AM)
Well, like I said, some of those are obviously jokes.  But the "you are with us or against us" attitude is not all that unreasonable.

Think about it:

If country A knows that country B is about to be attacked by terrorists and doesn't tell them, then it isn't very unreasonable to say that country B is against country A.
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So they can't be socialist? Like england? They were not with us at 1st. I guess we're the good guys because we say we're the good guys. Nice double standard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-15 at 02:30:25
They weren't offered as jokes. You seem to have trouble differentiating between joking and serious statements.

So you're saying that countries like France are with the terrorists? That's sickening.

*Edit* Nice quote Alpha.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-15 at 02:38:02
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So you claim yourselve to be a conservative or a moderate? Cause you DO know, all these people are right wing conservatives.


The politcal spectrum is not linear; don't be so naive.

I am better described as libertarian, but the Libertarian Party is p*ssy and I don't want you to associate them with me.

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I gurantee you can't find liberals that would say stuff that shock as MUCH as what these conservatives have said.


Oh boy, you are in for a treat! wink.gif

"Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed." -- Pentti Linkola

"The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world" -- John Shuttleworth

"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." -- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans." -- Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project

Cannibalism is a "radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation." -- Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995

"To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem"-- Lamont Cole

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels." -- Carl Amery

Those are just environmental ones.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-15 at 02:42:10
Don't be silly. They're hippies, and most liberals aren't like that. However, most conservatives feel the same way about those fundamentalist quotes as the original speakers do, to some degree or another.

You really can't stand being wrong, can you? Just give this one up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-15 at 02:48:58
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 15 2005, 01:38 AM)
The politcal spectrum is not linear; don't be so naive.

I am better described as libertarian, but the Libertarian Party is p*ssy and I don't want you to associate them with me.
Oh boy, you are in for a treat! wink.gif

"Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed." -- Pentti Linkola

"The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world" -- John Shuttleworth

"Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs." -- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans." -- Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project

Cannibalism is a "radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation." -- Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995

"To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem"-- Lamont Cole

"We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels." -- Carl Amery

Those are just environmental ones.
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I love your 1st quote, because it doesn't sound left wing at all. Sounds more like right wing philosophy.

"Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed."

Basically saying, let's have it the way it USED to be. Sounds pretty funny considering it's coming from someone I assume is liberal.

The rest of these people are not arrogant enough to place their own species 1st, (Ironically, some how they are arrogant enough to believe we are a threat to the Earth) cause they know how bad we are. (Most of them are just plain censored.gif ing stupid hippies) Look at our history, let's not bull censored.gif our selves people. And I doubt they have much hope for our species. However, unlike them, I personally do. But when I see people like ann coulter, I get 1 step closer to going to a rifle range and learning how to shoot.

You better seperate yourself from libertarians. All the ones I know of are censored.gif ed up in the head. But between you and me, there is no party worth joining today.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-07-15 at 02:51:12
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We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

Okay, while we're at it, why don't we teach the Deaf Community to sing while we're at it.

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Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.

Harsh. Somewhat funny, but very harsh.

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Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed'

Wow, ever try stand-up comedy?

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With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew.

Does anyone else think this guy looks like Hitler?

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"If you got to castrate your miserable self with a piece of rusty barb wire, do it."

"Hear the word of the LORD, America, f**-enablers are worse than the f**s themselves, and will be punished in the everlasting lake of fire!"

"You telling these miserable, Hell-bound, bath house-wallowing,  censored.gif -copulating f**s that God loves them!? You have bats in the belfry!"

"American Veterans are to blame for the f** takeover of this nation. They have the power in their political lobby to influence the zeitgeist, get the f*gs out of the military, and back in the closet where they belong!"

"Not only is  censored.gif -sexuality a sin, but anyone who supports f*gs is just as guilty as they are. You are both worthy of death."

So, every American Veteran, h0mo-sexual, and non- censored.gif phobe is going to hell? Wow, Heaven must be pretty sparsely populated.

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God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.

Oh, is this the same guy that tells you you should watch Sponge Bob every morning instead of giving a s**t about our country?

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"We had lost the fight for the preservation of the white race until God himself intervened in earthly affairs with AIDS to rescue and preserve the white race that he had created.... I praise God all the time for AIDS."

"AIDS is a racial disease of Jews and N*ggers, and fortunately it is wiping out the  censored.gif s. I guess God hates  censored.gif s for several reasons. There is one big reason to be against que ers and that is because every time some white boy is seduced by a que er into becoming a qu eer, means his white bloodline has run out."

There's straight white men in this nation with AIDS...

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"S ex education classes in our public schools are promoting incest."

I don't ever remember them telling me to be a Mother F*cker. What in the world is he talking about?

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"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, h0mosexuality, lesbianism – everything that the Bible condemns."

So, if you plan to have children, chances are they're going to be h0mosexual bestiality promiscuiously se xual fornicaters, but if you spontaneously have se x and have a child unexpectedly, he'll turn out fine.

Fundamentalists have really distorted point's of views, yet some of the statements were somewhat correct, no matter how harsh they are. I think Rush Limbaugh's statements were mostly true.

AHHH I can't post this, too many censored words, everything is censored now...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-15 at 02:54:57
The quote that scared the censored.gif out of me, was the one from ronald reagan. When someone says that, and has some of the authorization to end the world, (Espeicially when he really keeps on funding MORE and MORE weapons) I would start freaking the hell out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-15 at 05:00:38
I'm just glad Bill O'Reilly isn't on that list. Hes a good guy.

Some of those people are really radical, but not all and their words have been specifically cut out of their sentences to make a point. But most of them are radicals.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-15 at 05:22:48
I think there was like one person on there that I did not consider a radical.

Maybe that was the guy that said all people realized that order came from the Creator... that's not too radical as like 90% of the world's population believes something similar. Everything else though was more radical than I'd ever like to see.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Parthx86 on 2005-07-15 at 07:31:28
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"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."


Hahahahahahahahahaha, stupidity amuses me.

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"Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody's pseudo-right to worship an idol."

See where mixing church and state gets you? Religous political beliefs.

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"Better a pink bottom than a black soul."*

*Roloff opened a chain of homes for "wayward" youth in the state of Texas; he was later jailed in 1973 and again in 1975 for child abuse due to the punitive punishment techniques used in his homes. He would have been finished had he not of been specifically given permision to re-open his homes by, you guested it, Governor George W Bush.

Better your face than kids' bottoms.

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"Causes of  censored.gif sexuality include: 'sex with animals'"*

Umm... I know lots of censored.gif sexual people, and I don't think any of them has had sex with an animal.

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"When I, or people like me, are running the country, you'd better flee, because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed."*

*It is interesting to note that Randell Terry's son is  censored.gif

And thats the reason him, or people like him aren't running the country.

I could go on forever flaming these people who wont ever read this but....wait why did I even start then.... mellow.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2005-07-15 at 09:29:08
The only solution is to found an entirely new party, as the existing two are thoroughly inadequate. Federalists were probably right, the majority of the people are just too stupid to vote.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-07-15 at 10:51:12
I read ...
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I hate fundamentalists almost as much as I hate liberals, but this list is stupid.

But then...

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I should comment on this one. As athiest as I am, this is true. "Seperation of church and state" was invented later. Read the first ammendment.

Suprised me.

How can you claim to be an atheist and be conservative? I'm beginning to suspect you're randomly using large words without actually knowing the definition. In case you didn't know, liberal means change. Change is good in our current society. Whether for better or worse, change allows people to look at things in a whole other perspective. The people in the list won't do that, they have one perspective, religion.

So what are you really?

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Besides the fact that we don't know the context of these quotes, there are also some that aren't even bad, and that could have been said by anyone (or are obvious jokes):

All of them have been said in public so that rules out the possibilty of being said in public. All of them are bad to a certain extent, some are not nearly as bad, but the whole thing is still ridiculous.
As for context, I doubt these people, who are supposedly extremely smart, would "accidentally" say something like this.

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Well, like I said, some of those are obviously jokes. But the "you are with us or against us" attitude is not all that unreasonable.

It's unreasonable because it's not allowing all sides. These situation doesn't rely on only two sides; it has multiple point of views.

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Think about it:

If country A knows that country B is about to be attacked by terrorists and doesn't tell them, then it isn't very unreasonable to say that country B is against country A.

Likewise, if I tell someone that I will hit them, they should hit me before I do anything. Saying a threat is not the same as delivering it (It's funny I say this because in chess, the threat is more powerful than the execution).

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The politcal spectrum is not linear; don't be so naive.

Oh.. the irony. (continues..)

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I am better described as libertarian, but the Libertarian Party is p*ssy and I don't want you to associate them with me.

Liberal's want change. How is that being wimpy?


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