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I saw a tv show on hbo today called slides. And i startin thinkin that even though 85% of americans listens to some form of r&b. See the problem i find with r&b is that some artist belive they should rap or sing what ever comes off the top of their head. Instead of doing research about what ever they are singin or rappin about. Now why would parents try to sue the industry. Would it be because the parents can't control their children in the first place or is it, that they aren't satisfide with their lives. All the game now is about, is money. People let me tell you one thing that I have found out in life. Money isn't every thing. Even to the guy/girl you might fall in love with. Any ways back to the subject. To me I beleve if the parent is buying the albums for the kids. Then they are infulencing the gansta on to their kids.

Also let me state another point to this subject. See people in the cities that maybe poor or homless. Belives that they don't have a choice to make something out of their lives. Besides Dealing or selling drugs, robbery, or killing. To make it some were in life. The point im getting to is. If the rappers or singers actully done reasearch on what the fact of the song is. I know to some of you people none of this makes since. But to all the ones caught in the hoods. You do have a future. And you can be some one. If you put the effort into what ever goals you want to reach. You will reach it. Give your 100% to get where you wanna get to in life.

i kind of agree and disagree with what (i think) your saying.



True, but imagine if every artist actually researched what they were saying. the songs would lose thier 'flare' and 'style'.



And girls, fast cars, drugs, being accepted.. especially girls now-adays. young teenage girls are seeing all the ads and thinking that they have to be treated like some sex toy, and have to look perfect. funny how you didnt complain about that.

I didn't even think about that. i was just concerend about the kids and how they are being rased up on. Gansta rap. But yes that is a good point

R&B is not the same thing as Rap.

R&B = Rythem, and Blues

Rap = "Massive grabbing fest and throwing out vile words here and there"

So before you diss on R&B, please do your research

While I agree about your opinions on rap, that is not even close to what R&B is.

Rap is dumb bull . They ryhme and the kids think it makes sense. The words drugs comes in and uh-oh, now the kids all hyped on drugs. I think rappers need to just speak clearly and express their thoughts right because most rappers talk of how drugs ruined their lives, but kids don't even understand it and are too lazy to look up lyrics.

See, this is why GWAR is the greatest band ever. It doesn't influence you at all and I don't want to LEARN from my music.

R&B is not Rap (How he says it is)

Most Rapers do talk about themselves (All the good ones that is)

There is some Rap out there (If you can find it) that is really good, and talks about sociaty problems, and everything else posotive. And there is Rap that is complete bull "poo" (Let's get a beat going and scream, Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Over and over again! Omfg! We're geniouses! We're so smart! We can Rap about es sucking our s, and us en em up the while their daddy watches, and how we go around killing homeless people and all the works! Damn we're good!)

Really. Rap now days, *ucking blows dogs for quarters. With the exception of Snoop Dog, Ice Cube, DMX, and Some Eminem.

Now old school Rap, all the way.

Run DMC, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Vannila Ice (Go ahead and laugh) and others that have slipped my mind (Oh! Sir-Mix-A-Lot all the way!)

Just about any artistic work is done without much research on the subject, because if they do everything exactly as it would be in real life it doesn't appeal. People like art because it doesn't follow the rules of their life.
Run DMC kicks ass.

Right now on the hit music stations, most of the songs are R&B or hip hop done by mainly black people. I can't stand that stuff sometimes. We need more songs by rock/rockpop bands/artists.

R&B is not the :poo: you hear on the god damn radio! Either is Hip-Hop! Those two genres are :censored:ing dead!

The :poo: you hear on the radio is Rap. :poo:ty, and useless RAP

And yes Rantent, Run DMC does kick ass......

Ah ic, cuz on our hit music station, the announcer would be like "Here are some of today's R&B hits and plays a short piece of some supposedly R&B song."

Can you tell me why rap about society's problems is much better then rap about themselves? Seriously, I see no difference between them. If the rap about themselves is good, who cares if it's about themselves? I mean seriously, people don't listen to songs so we can gain ideas about what society was done wrong and then right them. No, we listen to them for entertainment.

R&B isnt that bad at all, like familiar artsit Brain McKnight.
Rap and Metal is the worst type of music out there becuace lots of people turn out to be wanna bees and wonderful friendes.

the people that listen to rap want to be rap stars and then trying to make there own freestyle. /Posers

and metal they keep goin on and on and on with there stupid attitudes.

so i would prefer R&B for a safe community

Wow, that's the most stereotypical thing about rap I've heard all day. Just since you listen to rap, that means you must want to become a rap star like 50 Cent or something. You know, not everyone wants to hit it big.

This is some BS post, how old are you? Don't diss on "black music" (as you decided to put it) cuz 1 genre is slightly well.. discrimating to society. Let's piece this bit by bit.


The guys you hear on the radio are their own research. I'll name a few; 50 cent, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Featz, P.Diddy, Clipse, Omario, Mario, MIssy Elliot, Ashanti, etc. These main people you here on the radio have plenty of music for your so called "youths being lead astray." Purchase a few cds(or download em), and see for yourself. The Mario brothers have heart warming love songs and raps about partying(can't believe i admitted that). Eminem has loads of albums of his lifestories. Firs thing you need to understand is that if you find out the story's of these rappers you so hate, you will see where they come from and what they're rapping about. It makes no sense that they are writing down whatever pops of their head because you don't do that in any industry of the music buisness. Let me tell you what you don't like, you don't like gangsta rap that says things like, "I Slap-a-hoe day to day cuz she aint got my money!" That is Gangsta Rap! Not R&B and not regular rap. And you wanna know why Gangsta rap is popular with this so called society you don't favor? It's cuz the people :censored:ing are dumb enough to like the :poo:. That's why it's :censored:ing popular. It's not bad for the people who understand it, it's bad for the idiots who like the way it rhymes and want to go learn the ways of the gansta. If you wanna know what gangsta rap is- it's another damn way of people expressing their lifestyle. If only you would understand why people do the type of music they do you wouldn't have to persecute the genre of music. They do this type of thing because this has formed into their personality, themself. It's not mind dribble, making their tunes based on the different asoects of their life. Partying, clubbing, crime, death, life, love, ignorance, brotherhood etc. The stuff aint dribble, you just don't like the misusage of the music. It's similar to those who misuse metal rock and roll, difference is Rock and Roll tends to be popular in a small city or country type of enviroment. Cities are much bigger.


All buisnesses are about money. People find who has the best appeal, best image vocally and physically. And make money off of it. Some people abuse it, some people don't. It's a part of Human life. Things are abused by some and not others.


Wow, not to sound rude but that is crap. It's music. It's like when physicians and therapists said that the urges to kill hundreds of people on a spur was a cause of videogame violence. It takes someone weak-willed to succumb to that kind of exposure. It's not some crap like someone is telling you live like this or die(which is how it is for some "gangsta rappers" if you didn't think about that). The parent who is buying the cd is just getting their kid something they wanted, and btw i don't ever hear of parents buying this stuff for their kids. I never hear of any parents buying music for their kids, I have seen those overprotective parents buy cds for kids, but it's always r&b and oldies. Nothing like rap or some forms of rock. This might just be me, but has anyone else heard of parents buying their kids rap cds?


Yeah I know I don't, these sentences are incompletely. I can't understand this, it would be nice if you could fix em plz. Thanks.


You may know of ways to get where you want to go, and have things that made you believe that's a future but the people you are referring to most likely do not. No matter how much you preach to people about stuff, whatever is etched into their brain is etched, they can only learn to live with it not subside it. It's telling an old woman it's not safe in her home cityt anymore. But she has it etched in her head that it is safe because that's how she remembers it.(bad example )

Basically I went a lil off but what I'm saying is not only is Rap and R&B not crap, but even Gangsta rap has purpose. Just because it's more on the crude side of which you as a person do not like things, does not make it wrong.

P.S. Nice Siggy

Well that took me a really long time to read all of that lol. No The whole point i was tryin to get out tdnf. Was I was sayin. To all the younger crowd to me. You don't have to turn the way your brothers are and deal. Or wonder the streets your intire life. Good concepts though tdnf and all. Ya sorry about calling R@b as rap. Sorry didn't do the reacher as that. I appoligize. And yes all music infulence each person diffrently.But as much as I do preach about all this. It won't help the world today. I am just concered to get opions on who ever follows the words in the song.
And thanks for the ps.

........ Read what I said above...... Seems to me you completely IGNORED what I said about them...

Most Hip-Hop and R&B is dead.. There are still SOME artists, but not like in 90's...

*Had a hard time reading those posts*
Due to the lack of clarity in your posts, I may say something conflicting with what I think you said. If I mess up just tell me. As for Kellimus...almost eveyrthing you hear on the radio is Hip-Hop. YOu have them reversed, there are very few rap artists left. Rap is your hardcore, street-life, "thug" music. Fitting into these categories are Lil' Scrappy, Mac Dre, EA Ski, and Usher<--(JUST. KIDDING.) Hip-Hop is the popular music, this genre includes artists like 50 Cent, Eminem, G-Unit, Fat Joe, Nelly, and almost all of the other artists you would hear on a radio station. R&B is the softer type. Famous people are mostly women, but a few men as well. Ashanti, Beyonce, Omarion(on a few occasions), and Alicia Keyes all fit into this genre. There is, however, a thin line between rap and hip-hop. Most people who listen to hip-hop just classify it as rap, as do I. But technically, it isn't the same.

Wow, one of you actually knows what you're talking about(by the way I am nearly 100% amazed). The only thing slightly off with your statement is Rap is 50 cent and Eminem, Hip hop is stuff like N'Sync and party music rap. It's a weird kind of mix. Most rappers do a few songs that are hip-hop but the rest is rap. Good example is that Omario has never published a Rap cd on live radio. Everything he does is Hip-Hop and R&B. "Gangsta rap" is the street thug rap you guys are talking about. Regular rap is stuff like what Dr. Dre and Clipse do. To make slightly clearer, Nelli has done more Hip-Hop songs than rap ones. Although as long as you don't try and say stuff like rap is only ":censored:- wonderful friend," and it's polluting our society, then there's no one who will care if you say a Rapper does Hip-Hop albums or vice versa.

Very good point indecisive, I am impressed.

P.S. What is wrong with the so-called Gangsta Rap anyway?

I like rap. Most rap songs (at least the REALLY good ones) take ALOT of time to get produced and written. Its not just rhyming like eveyr one thinks. You have to make rhymes that tell a story or has a point. You got to rhyme with a beat and music that makes sence. Its extremely difficult to become a good rapper. Many rap songs are emotional too, especially the gangster rap.

For once I'm going to have to agree with Chris. Man that was hard to type.

You guys ever hear any of Mos Def's stuff? It's pretty good.

what if someone else puts there 100% into stopping you, who then succeds the one trying to get someonewhere or the one trying to stop them? in this scenario only one person can reach there goal. now if you knew more about these people you might be able to come to some conclusion as to whihc one would succed in their goal. by the vary fact that u can make this judgment call doesnt it suggest that some people are more capable of succeding in their dreams over other. and sense this is true doesnt it seem that if one person was more capable then another that not necisarrily everyones 100% would be as succesful as anothers. doesnt this present a fundamental flaw in your statment?