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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-07-23 at 21:21:31
Your opinions:
The topic should say it all, but key issues:

Our president
The econemy
The general workings, ect

I'll post my opinions later.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-23 at 22:02:54
Wait, how to fix our president? GET RID OF HIM AND GET A BETTER ONE.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-23 at 22:11:14
  • End welfare system.
  • Make social security optional.
  • Privatize the Postal Service
  • End government subsidies of business.
  • Switch from an income tax to a sales tax.
  • Privatize schools.
  • End the war on drugs.
That's just a start. Next up: ending taxation. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-07-23 at 23:29:40
if your saying privatise ALL schools thats not very smart at all
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-07-24 at 08:42:37
Actually, privatizing a good amount of the schools is a good idea. The American public school system sucks. The teachers dont get paid enough, thats why we dont get any really good teachers.

If people paid money to go to school, the teachers would get paid more, and more professional people would want the job.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-07-24 at 12:38:55

Somehow, the postal service comment went over my head.
To clear things up, the postal service isn't fully owned by the government.

Anwyays, about the schools no it isn't, because not all people can get enough money to pay for such schools. I'd rather improve the existing system. (Yes, no child left behind is really: Child who is just below passing doesn't get left behind, while the smart ones and the ones way below passing are left in the dust.)
Making social socurity optional sounds good, but leaves too many people hanging in the air, teh disabled, retired.

Changing income tax to a sales tax is just asking for mayhem, because although you keep more paycheck money and whatnot, you pay more for everyday items.

End the war on drugs, i'd disagree, drugs polute the mind more than video games.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-07-24 at 12:53:22
Replace the government with the system of Anarchy of the Enlightened.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-25 at 10:41:35
QUOTE(Infested-Jerk @ Jul 24 2005, 09:38 AM)
Somehow, the postal service comment went over my head.
To clear things up, the postal service isn't fully owned by the government.

Anwyays, about the schools no it isn't, because not all people can get enough money to pay for such schools. I'd rather improve the existing system. (Yes, no child left behind is really: Child who is just below passing doesn't get left behind, while the smart ones and the ones way below passing are left in the dust.)
Making social socurity optional sounds good, but leaves too many people hanging in the air, teh disabled, retired.

Changing income tax to a sales tax is just asking for mayhem, because although you keep more paycheck money and whatnot, you pay more for everyday items.

End the war on drugs, i'd disagree, drugs polute the mind more than video games.
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Uh... No child left behind = If you don't get this score on this test, you fail high school.

If we wasn't in debt, we wouldn't need taxes....

If we was to end the war on certain drugs, then we would have more money to spend on essential things.

End the war on Marijuana, legalize it, and tax the hell out of it = Get us a surplus instead of deficit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-07-25 at 12:17:22
Legalizing marijuana would be for medical purposes, not recreational.

Perhaps we could have a compromise on the education system. Have parents pay their school directly (their choice), but retain the laws saying that education is mandatory. Also, have the government enforce guidelines for schools to follow. Any schools that could not or refuse to meet such guidelines would be shut down.

And there are already private postal companies - i.e. what was formerly the UPS (now the Brown Company or something).

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Switch from an income tax to a sales tax.


We already have sales taxes. Besides, a tax is a tax. Money means way too much to you. You'll realize that it is, in fact, quite worthless.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-25 at 12:25:27
QUOTE(Sir_Fela_the_Wise @ Jul 25 2005, 09:17 AM)
Legalizing marijuana would be for medical purposes, not recreational.

Perhaps we could have a compromise on the education system. Have parents pay their school directly (their choice), but retain the laws saying that education is mandatory. Also, have the government enforce guidelines for schools to follow. Any schools that could not or refuse to meet such guidelines would be shut down.

And there are already private postal companies - i.e. what was formerly the UPS (now the Brown Company or something).
We already have sales taxes. Besides, a tax is a tax. Money means way too much to you. You'll realize that it is, in fact, quite worthless.
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Marijuana already is legal in some states for medical purposes... If they legalized it for recreational, they would make big bank, and it would probibly stimulate the economy for many reasons.

Example: More DWI (Not DUI) tickets = more money into the government. It would probibly cost $50 for a pack of like 5-10 joints (Of some really good government grown shiz) They could somehow create licences to grow it (The government could make that work and it would cost big bucks, and there would be annual "taxes" that you would have to send in or something)

So really, it is a damn good idea to legalize it for recreational use because they would make hella bank.

You can't force schools to do anymore then they already do. And the Federal Government doesn't run schools, the State does.

Anything that deals with the postal service, has government intervention. May not be a lot, but the government LOVES to get into private businesses business
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-07-26 at 09:18:48
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Legalizing marijuana would be for medical purposes, not recreational.

I dont know anything about drugs.. if its bad then the governement should, as he said, legalize and tax it, and if it isnt, do the same thing. It might kill off some of the population, it will give the government more money, etc etc.
Did i miss anything?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-07-26 at 15:44:01
About no child left behind:
The bottom line is that people who are points away from passing get teh attention and help.
I had two family members come from the south in Alabama to visit (My great aunt and her older son.) well, in their house, one of the other children happens to be... no offense meant, mentaly retarded. (My aunt used this term herself, so I might as well too.) In school, because of the mass number of students, and teh growing pressure to get passing grades, my cousin gets barely any help.
So the dumb get dumber, the smart are held back, and those just barely missing the mark get all the help because it saves time and money, yet hurts the nation more than any drug.


About China:
One word: EMBARGO, I mean china is killing are industry, when I visited Maine recently, the big news was that some factories and other places that dealt heavily with industry are diasppearing.
Ever walk into a "Local" store and find that something "Made in The USA" had a "MAde in China" sticker on the bottom?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-26 at 23:39:28
Having a sales tax instead of an income tax would encourage savings.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-07-27 at 01:53:14
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(My aunt used this term herself, so I might as well too.)

Nothing wrong with using the word correctly.

I can't really think of anything that could be done to improve America at the moment.
The problem with any governmental system is human corruption/greed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-07-27 at 02:30:22
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 23 2005, 07:11 PM)

  • End welfare system.
  • Make social security optional.
  • Privatize the Postal Service
  • End government subsidies of business.
  • Switch from an income tax to a sales tax.
  • Privatize schools.
  • End the war on drugs.
That's just a start.  Next up: ending taxation. tongue.gif
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While we're at it, let's invade China, set up a $10 billion/year department to handle UFO sightings and reinstate the draft!

Honestly, a lot of these ideas would make this country worse.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-07-27 at 03:23:42
QUOTE(ihatett @ Jul 23 2005, 09:11 PM)





  • End welfare system.




  • Make social security optional.




  • Privatize the Postal Service




  • End government subsidies of business.




  • Switch from an income tax to a sales tax.




  • Privatize schools.




  • End the war on drugs.




That's just a start.  Next up: ending taxation. tongue.gif
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End welfare? I had to live off of welfare for a while cause I only had a single parent. So hate, go censored.gif yourself.

Privatize schools as well? I see you don't care about those below you very much at all, even when it comes to children. If schools privatize, they would have to charge parents even more money in order for them to be able to run the school. And with no welfare, you're basically saying, hey poor, go censored.gif yourself. Hey rich, here is that new yaht you always you wanted.

Only one I strongly agree with is the war on drugs part. But the one right below is just, wtf you smoking? Ending taxation? Are you currently on da crack?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-07-27 at 14:19:19
Reminds me of a scene from a movie.

Rich Empress: "it is no conern of mine whether your family has any.. what was it again?"
Begging peasant: "food"
Rich Empress: "hah! You should have thought of that before you became peasants."

No care for the poor people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-07-27 at 18:36:38
stop unloading on him, if you disagree with his ideas, or anyone else's shove a bunch of facts that shoots his/her's idea out of the sky.
Or I might just ask someone to close the topic for me.
Me= Lazy sometimes happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-27 at 18:40:08
I have a new idea.

Get rid of all the stupid :censored:ing whores known as women! (Except Rexy and Kame)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-27 at 19:34:44
well.....that would kinda work. but realy, there is no fix. there is no perfect government. there is on way to take a government, gut it, and re-build it from the ground up. it would colaps and a new government would arise, but it will be worse than the one before. anyway, im done thinking about something that i cant fix.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-27 at 22:16:12
Secure border (North and South)

New president, why? No matter how much I like Bush, he divids the country and right now we need a president EVERY one likes.

Secure resources for the future of our country

Fix school systems in the inner cities.

Secure California (overrun by the zerg, oh I mean illegals)

I don't think jobs isn't too big of an issue becuase millions upon millions of illegals cross our borders everyday and they find jobs. disgust.gif

(more coming)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-07-27 at 23:48:34
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jul 27 2005, 03:40 PM)
I have a new idea.

Get rid of all the stupid :censored:ing whores known as women! (Except Rexy and Kame)
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Dude, that is so sexist, and I'd appriciate if you kept sexist comments out of this topic.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-07-28 at 10:35:05
OFF TOPIC, But Kinda on topic:
Whew, Kame saw the marked message, not that other mod... (No offense to him. Who is he again? *Brain Freeze Moment*


Anyways, illegal Imigrants (Correct term, right?) is a problem, especialy in the south.


I think we should pull out of Iraq, let the clean up their mess, and have more On call units for defense. Instead of being caught with our seats down, we'll be able to counterattack and defend.

Not to be an extremeist, but Mr. President Bush is just asking for a assassination attempt. Then when Mr. Vice Pres becomes Pres, we have more assassinations of him, then his vice pres, and so on. I mean, that's what hate and discontent about or government leads to, revolt and revolution.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-07-28 at 11:42:49
QUOTE(Kame da Sniper @ Jul 27 2005, 08:48 PM)
Dude, that is so sexist, and I'd appriciate if you kept sexist comments out of this topic.
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I was very pissed off at teh world when I said that. Sorry cry.gif

On Topic
I agree with you Infested. We need to pull out and all that good stuff. But he is leaving us open, so he can destroy the youth of the nation (Us going into a big war, thus making the Draft open again and me going bye-bye) even though we are the future.

Don't you just love a president that is an ex-crack head, and had many DUIs in college?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2005-07-28 at 17:16:20
no offense but almost every who goes to college gets drunk and has crazy parties, even the low lifes, its just wether you get caught or not under age or driving.

On Topic:

Want to hear a Joke????

Theres going to be a draft!!! LOL w00t.gif
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