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Hey everyone, I just felt I needed to let this out, and see what your views are. As most of you, if not all, know the United States is at war with Iraq. Now, as probably some of you know, we are having problems with oil trade. We invaded Iraq thinking there were "Weapons of Mass Destruction" but we've come to find that there weren't any at all. Now, what the are we still doing there you ask? We are basically forcing Iraq to give us their oil. Of course we are still paying for it, but we are in fact TAKING it from them.

Bush went into Iraq with no escape plan. Either we need to take over Iraq completely and take all of their oil, or we need to leave right now. It's pointless having husbands, wives, moms, and dads sitting there risking their lives for nothing.

Oil is going to run out soon enough, like it or not. We either need to find a new reliable resource, or we will be at war with China. China is the next leading competitor in oil trade right now. As oil gets lower and lower, it will cause' the United States and China to REALLY compete for that last of the oil. This could in fact result in a nuclear war. It's sad, I know, but it's true. YOU most likely won't be drafted, but your kids sure will. The United States alone has enough Nuclear Bombs to blow up the world in 10 minutes. Isn't that scary? What are we going to do when there is no oil? Even if we don't go to war? Walk? Horses? I mean, if there WAS another resource, don't you think we'd be using it now?

You might be thinking, hm.. We can use electricity you wonderful friend. Well, where the hell do you get electricity? Petroleum. It runs everything. We can have dams, and windmills, and little gerbils running to get a lightbulb running, but none of that will give us enough power to run the amount of cars we have today.

What are you views?

Is the world over in 20 years?

I like how you said Clinton was retarded without even so much as mentioning him in the post.

No, the world is not over in twenty years. Wait for that hydrogen fuel to come along.

Oh, and most energy is nuclear anyway, at least in the United States.

One of these days, the Chinese people will take over the world.

But india is going to beat us there with their overwhelming lack of birth control.

the U.S. doesn't have enough nuclear bombs to destroy the world in ten minutes (maybe half of it) but its the nuclear winter thats gets ya. Anyways i don't think the world is over in 20 years, we still have nuclear energy which is free pretty much (besides the outcome of it) our solar power panels only use a small percetage of the suns rays so we could improve on that. Plus we could use hydrogen to run our cars (it costs pretty much the same as now) and i doubt you have to worry about that element running out.

Nah, the world won't END, but we will end up going backwards. We won't run out of oil anytime soon, but we will peak within a few years. When that happens, we're going to live in a new age of waiting. We'll be waiting alot more because without a lot of oil, everything has to be done differently then before.

Why don't people stop posting threads that are going to get people to flame the :poo: out of you. Jesus christ, people love to attract flames.

Hydrogen fuel is not the way of the future, not at it's current state right now at least.

It will get better I mean I know a guy that has a hydrogen powered car and he says that the price to refuel it is about the same as the gas prices right now, and since it's new technology it's bound to get cheaper...I hope...

Hydrogen is the most common element, but there's one problem: It's usually merged with some other element. I'm not sure how much it costs to seperate hydrogen, but it's seeminly a bit inconvenient. What we need is less people, and more condoms.

Yes, even though hydrogen is available in large quantities, pure hydrogen is very hard to come by. If you were to seperate it, I believe more pollution is created, which is equal to if not more then using a fossil fuel, so really, it defeats the point in the long run.

1. Bush and Clinton make mistakes liek any other human being. Saying they're stupid is ignorant, they are both smarter then you.
2. IF we left Iraq right now, the country would collapse. Other neighboring countries would move in, and take over. That would be the end of Iraq. We didn't go there to kill the country, we went to make sure they weren't going to hold the world hostage.
3. Yes we currently need oil. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, there is a :poo:load of oil in alaska, that we cannot get to atm. I don't know too much about it, perhaps some1 else does... but as i understand it, there are endangered species there that environmentalists are trying to protect, preventing us from drilling there.

- P.S. OIL. there are plenty of other solutions, and alternatives.

I really doubt that it would be polluting the planet when to make it since they do almost the same thing for oxygen tank.
If your saying the result of using hydrogen as fuel is a pollutent it's not, the result of using it is water.

Why not use the Deep Fry Greese thats used to Deep Fry French Frys?! A group of people really did do that. Its a good source its a matter of seperation and make it pure so its easer to use. Don't know about pollution but its just gonna make the air smell like deep fried french frys and making us all going to Mc Donalds or In N' Out. America makes so much greese that its just going to waste!!! or the dogs or out to sea for the fishys!

It's the processing of seperating the elements that causes pollution. I'll have to search this up, since my grade 9 science knowledge is pretty rusty.

alright then, you do that. i'm too lazy to go researcg on this

Okay first:
1- Experts Says There about 30% Of petrol undiscovered remaining on earth.

2- Do you really think that if they want to bomb the whole world they will use Nuclear device? no, I believe they've keep somewhere plans of even an Atomic Bomb, which IS really Powerfull!

3- USA Is going to be beaten by a country. No empire live forever.

4- If the world really End... well... Too bad.

No point of making a topic about the end of the world (didnt read any of the above posts) we all no it will go something like
This

The U.S. has not declared war with Iraq, and has not declared war since WWII.

And CHILDREN. Duh.

There are other sources for resources, but a few equations make them slow in progress:
Change=Hard
People=Lazy
H(L(P))=!©
(sorry, really unprofessional work here)

Yes, they will. Both wind and solar power can be combined to power the entire nation with electricity if the harvesters are ubiquitous enough, which isn't the case and won't be for years, or more than likely, decades.

Hopefully not, but talking about it here won't help. In fact, talking about anything anywhere nowadays have much less effects than in the past.



Lmao.


I saw that video before, it was entertaining, but exaggerating as well.

I've seen that as well; nice that Alaska can come too...

A little extert I got from a site.



http://www.crest.org/hydrogen/

As you can see, we have a long way to go before we can efficiently seperate hydrogen cells from other elements without causing more pollution.

I'll take your word for it (the link doesn't work for me) but you gotta admit it's still new technology that can be improved. Also, there is always improvements on how much power solar panels can take in so maybe that's the way of the future.

Yea, we went to Iraq to make sure that they won't "hold the world hostage". So.... why are we still there if their closest thing to a weapon of mass destruction was a giant sling shot?

Sorry I haven't posted sooner, I got suspended for a day. ;X

Anyways, to answer someone's question (I forgot who) Clinton is retarded because he set up oil trade so that China could potentially buy out all of it. What good does that do us? Oh yea, and did you forget he cheated on his wife in the WHITE HOUSE? HMMMM

And if there WAS a better energy source, trust me, we would be using it. Even as technology progresses, other energy sources will not provide as much as we need.

Someone mentioned more nuclear plants, but that will not work. If we have too many, there is more chance that something could go wrong, and poison the air. Or, it gives terrorists just easier targets to attack, killing lots and LOTS of people.

We don't want more deaths, do we?

Oh yea, and make peace with China? HA!

Man... If I could pick the place I'd cheat on my wife, I'd pick the White House. And you know what? The oil supply is gonna last a long, long time. You're probably one of those people who worry about gas prices too? People freak out, "Oh no! Gas prices went up 10 cents last week! We're gonna be broke!" ... Idiots! 10 cents more for a gallon of gasoline. That's friggen only ONE DOLLAR more for every ten gallons you buy. If you're that broke, what do you got a car for?

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, it's not the end of the world. You're freaking out because everyone makes a big deal of Bush being in office.

The way I see it is...
It's not going to bother me in my lifetime. And being the selfish person that I am, I'm not going to worry about it because it's going to have very little to do with me.

The day I care about oil is the day America loves Bush.