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I got the name from Shadowbrood, thanks man.

Name: The Gods Stand Alone
Genre: Progressive Goa Trance
Length: 7:14
Program Used: Fruity Loops

I would like you guys to check this out if possible...

http://www.electronicscene.com/Kellimus

If you think it sucks, post that it sucks..... If you think it rules, post that it rules....

Warning: Very Repetative...

Crap. This is why techno sucks: Any amateur can make a song and sound exactly like the "proffesionals". Take up music, this stuff is just crap.

Sounds like one of the samples on FL.

I took one of the tutorials (Basslines) and used the bassline to make the bassline... Then I made my own patterns...

It's cool that you hate my music......

I don't care...........

Any amature can do anything, it depends on who. Such an ignorant thing to say. If someone is talented they're talented, if they're good they're good. It shouldn't matter how.

Not everyone has to take years of lessons to be good at something. One might call that slow, where you have to wear a helmet... For walking.

If I had the real equipment, then I wouldn't make crappy songs...

Alas, I don't...

All I want in my life is two-four TB-303's and a TR-909... That would make me very happy......

Trig, what I'm saying that every untalented amateur can sound like the proffesionals who have record deals, because it doesn't take skill to repeat three samples over and and over.

Okay Theo, lets see you make a decent song.

Quit calling me an amature you

I know the feeling... Pretty much that's all that seperates someone who is able and a professional. Goes down to instruments, well if pop music, then gimics. However you're not so limited in FL, if you can get yourself Sonic Foundry, or Cool Edit Pro, then you could make instruments. As far as I'm concerned FL can do anything digital, so long as you got the right instrument packs.

My only inquery is how to set goddamn loop points on sound files.

However you could try a sponsorship, and I know someone who touring with Paul Van Dyke, I think he's almost done touring with him. I could see what kind of stuff he knows about sponsorship and rot. He goes by Rowawn Fend.

No one would want to sponsor my "Newb" (As Wil loves to put it when he probibly couldn't even make decent song) ass.

And wow. One song of mine sucks.. Whipty :censored:ing do? I have around 30-40 at home that I can't upload on the internet because of :poo:ty connection, and I can't find a decent host...

ok you go make a song.
and lets judge on it real hard

i jsut listen to god stands alone and there is one sound effect that doesnt fit in.

:GJ: You guys Really think Techno is easy, hen you come up with your own original Patterns, repeat them, and then slowly figure out what beats youer going to have, and on top of that, mix it with a turntable.

Whopty Frickin doo, you don't like it, do we care? No.

I agree.

Beatmatching is one of the hardest things to do with TurnTables (I'm also a DJ)

So before you even try to diss on DJ's and Producers just think. Do you really know how complicated it is?!?!

Go to Goole and Download Fruity Loops, and make a nice Song, THEN, maybe you will have re-earned my respect.

talkin about rap that is most easy beats you can make up.
electronica beats are hard to make

In my opinion, no beat is hard to make up. Rhythm, and beat are the two easiest things to compose in music.

Ok, Make one, right here, right now, ill even give you the link to Fruity Loops if you need it, it's funny that you think this is easy.

Uh... He has fruity loops, and I don't agree.

It is damn hard to get a good rythem in EM and the beats.. Those are somtimes complicated, and easy. Depending on your Genre

Techno IS easy, the people that make them are the ones that over rate the difficulty it is to make them. I used to do the same thing. I have made over 70 techno songs from the ages of 13-15, but thankfully I grew out of them and deleted almost every single one. (I still have a few left if you care to listen, but doubt you would) They're not that hard to make, trust me. I have more experiance with note sampling then I do with map making. (5 1/2 years on note/riff sampling, and about 3 1/2 with map making)

This to me, is like comparing sc maps, only thing you have up your sleeve is the inexperiance with the side against you. But that's not gonna work if I'm around. If you want me to go into full detail on why techno is easier to make compared to almost all other genres, I'll be more then happy to do is.

My point is just, if you make techno songs, that's fine. Just don't start acting like your a professional music maker, you remind me of my really arrogant self about 3 years ago.

It seems to me that all of you who diss on Electronc Music, have never heard any quality songs.

Do any of you know what a TB-303 is? Hmm...? Do you know how :censored:ING HARD it is to program one of those? Hmm....?

So before you diss on people who have the real, analog things, think of how hard it is to program the :poo:, run a synthesizer, put it into an Analog Sequencer and get an actual beat going.

wonderful friend

LOL, I'll go find some of my old songs and put them on here, hell I'll even make some tonight.

if your songs isn't like todays electronic music like darude, kate ryan, DJ Taka and other dj's that get paid then its not easy making trance/techno.

trance is way harder than techno becuace techno is mainly just alot of random sounds more likely

Almost all music is improv. Pretty much experimental placement, with knowledge of music. Toss in, change, change, toss in, change, toss in, change, change, change. If there wasn't such a thing there would be new sounds. There's a reason music is suppose to have a creative nature, it's people's complexity placed in the form of an audio-mathmatical language. Why people make the patterns they, really can't be fully explained. And in our world, what happens without an explainable reason is random.

If you want my opionion though. Taking the hardest from each genre, I would have to say blues and jazz are the most difficult. Each genre from my experience, has bands/artists that make easy music, that virtually anyone who gets ahold of tablature and learn a few notes and chords can play. It's out there for every kind of music, however you get those other bands/artists that have artists that have an outragious ear for music and talent.

Take rock for example, you got a band like blink 182, pretty much a person can stick a pick in their ass and play it. Then there's Joe Satriani... First time I heard Surfing With The Alien I almost creamed myself.

Then yes, then there's techno. You get an artist like Fat Boy Slim, good music, but I can't say all that difficult, I could go on FL and bust out record, and play on the keyboard with my crank. Then yes, there's DJ Taka, .59 isn't it? Well it's my favorite song to do on DDR.

Blues, you well... Hardly anything easy for that. I guess Blue Traveler. Then you have Stevie Ray Vaughan... His music may seem not as complex as Satriani or Steve Vai, but don't be fooled, shuffle beat is the biggest to get a proper sound out of as complex as Stevie Ray Vaughan, Pride And Joy... Ah yes. Then you have BB King... Yeah... I'll stop...

Then there's Jazz, well, I can't say I know any bands that are easy, but then you have coffee shop beatnicks. Then there's Peter Cincotti, DAMN! His piano is like no other.

Here's my techno song. I started it and made it tonight. All the notes are composed by me, I did not use/edit any of the riffs my music maker gave me. (I did edit 20-25% of the drum loops though, and I used 2 simple drums that were already provided) It's short, but I could easily span it out into a 5-6 min song by repeating a lot of it, and just adding a few little differences here and there, and da bam, I could easily have a 5-6 min techno song in about 20-30 min from now.

Techno takes almost no music skill to make compared to other genres.

I agree with you. Anyone can make Techno because all it is is a big booming bass drum with noises here and there and repeat.

Trance on the otherhand is difficult to make. You are naming off Mainstream artists, now i'm going to name some Underground.

Ever heard of Shakta - Lepton Head (Deedrah Mix)? Let's see you crank out a genuine Goa Trance song like this one.

How about Ominus - Acid Tester? Hmm? Again, let's see you crank out some of the genuine Goa Trance.

Have you ever heard of Kraftwerk? Sure, they're from the 70's and their Electronic Music is kinda simple, but you will never be as 1337 as them.

And how about Electric Skychurch - Deus? This song if you listen to it, has about five different elements, just for the god damn pattern!

So before you diss on me, or anyone else that makes a genre DIFFERENT THEN TECHNO Alpha, you try to make some and we will see how much you complain and how hard it is.....



Are you nucking futs?! TECHNO IS SIMPLE!

TRANCE is hard. HOUSE is hard. HARDCORE is hard. JUNGLE is the HARDEST!

You my friend, have way to many screws in your head loose.

TECHNO IS NOT THE GOD DAMN WORD FOR ELECTRONIC MUSIC!

ANYBODY can make the genre known as TECHNO!

But lets see you crank out some HOUSE, TRANCE, HARDCORE, or even JUNGLE!

JESUS TITTY :censored:ING CHRIST!

I agree with you that TECHNO takes almost no skill to make.

BUT TECHNO IS NOT JUST ALL FORMS OF ELECTRONIC MUSIC YOU wonderful friend!

ADDITION:
I just checked out your song.

Great job in twisting the genre!

That was Breakbeat you wonderful friend, not TECHNO!

GAR!