Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-09 at 02:02:33
ok, how do unawnserable exist? if there is always a begining and an end, how are they possible? THERE MUST BE AN AWNSER!!! but why cant we find it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-08-09 at 08:15:45
Thats why "God", "Allah", and many, many other supernatural entities "exist". To answer the unknown.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2005-08-09 at 08:21:56
Everything has an answer, we havnt found the answer to beginings because we are primitive, blinded by our arrogance. Same with the ends, but somehow they are both answered as one, because like Light and Dark they are One.
There is no unanswerable answer, just more questions.
There is no unanswerable answer, just more questions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-09 at 12:19:19
QUOTE(IceWarrior98 @ Aug 9 2005, 07:21 AM)
Everything has an answer, we havnt found the answer to beginings because we are primitive, blinded by our arrogance. Same with the ends, but somehow they are both answered as one, because like Light and Dark they are One.
There is no unanswerable answer, just more questions.
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There is no unanswerable answer, just more questions.
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Why did you f*ck your dog last night? I hope there is no answer to that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-08-09 at 13:13:34
If the question is true, then there is an answer to be found.
Some things we are incapable of explaining at this time due to lack of comprehension or inferior technology/techniques. False questions have no real answers. Everything else contains truth, and existence.
Some things we are incapable of explaining at this time due to lack of comprehension or inferior technology/techniques. False questions have no real answers. Everything else contains truth, and existence.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2005-08-09 at 13:16:33
QUOTE(ihatett @ Aug 9 2005, 11:19 AM)
Why did you f*ck your dog last night? I hope there is no answer to that.
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Wut crawled up ur ass and died?...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-09 at 13:24:02
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Wut crawled up ur ass and died?...
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I guess you didn't get it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2005-08-09 at 13:25:49
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I guess you didn't get it.
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Yea I got it im just being dumb today.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-08-09 at 23:30:49
Okay, now you're not being open minded.
Everything doesn't HAVE to have a beginning or an end (I'm just being open-minded without any evidence, like you, Durk-a-Dur).
For instance, the universe may not have a beginning or end, which would explain a lot. It's just outside our ability to comprehend.
And time (The transfer of energy as viewed from our perception at the rate we perceive it, not that lame Sci-Fi crud...) may never have begun and it may never end.
Like you, I have no evidence to back my claims. I'm just being open-minded.
Supposably Unanswerable Quesitons:
Q: "If a tree falls in the woods, and nobody's around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
A: Yes
Q: "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"
A: Since one hand can't technically fill the role of clapping, it would either be your hand 'swooshing' through the air, your fingers beating against your palm, or it simply isn't plausible, since clapping requirs two hands. Take your pick.
Q: "If Durk-A-Dur died, would anybody care?"
A: No
Everything doesn't HAVE to have a beginning or an end (I'm just being open-minded without any evidence, like you, Durk-a-Dur).
For instance, the universe may not have a beginning or end, which would explain a lot. It's just outside our ability to comprehend.
And time (The transfer of energy as viewed from our perception at the rate we perceive it, not that lame Sci-Fi crud...) may never have begun and it may never end.
Like you, I have no evidence to back my claims. I'm just being open-minded.
Supposably Unanswerable Quesitons:
Q: "If a tree falls in the woods, and nobody's around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
A: Yes
Q: "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"
A: Since one hand can't technically fill the role of clapping, it would either be your hand 'swooshing' through the air, your fingers beating against your palm, or it simply isn't plausible, since clapping requirs two hands. Take your pick.
Q: "If Durk-A-Dur died, would anybody care?"
A: No
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2005-08-09 at 23:36:59
Lets put it this way, all questions have answers, every possibility has multiple outcomes, if a tree falls it doesnt make a sound unless somethings there to hear it because sounds are something that can be heard, if it cant be heard it doesnt make a sound. Finaly, for every action there isa re-action.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-08-10 at 00:23:56
Huh? A sound doesn't have to be heard to exist. The vibrations still travel through the air, possibly knocking something off a branch or whatnot. Even if nobody's there to hear it, it was there.
That's like saying air doesn't exist because you can't see it.
That's like saying air doesn't exist because you can't see it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-10 at 00:58:59
If a question is unanswerable, trust me, someone, somewhere will creat an answer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shapechanger on 2005-08-10 at 01:03:46
True, but I really love your avatar and siggy 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-10 at 01:31:33
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Lets put it this way, all questions have answers, every possibility has multiple outcomes, if a tree falls it doesnt make a sound unless somethings there to hear it because sounds are something that can be heard, if it cant be heard it doesnt make a sound. Finaly, for every action there isa re-action.
Okay, what about supernovas across the galaxy that we can't see?
Those exist, we know it now, but we didn't before.
Did they just appear out of nowhere for no reason, and yet somehow maintained consistancy with our understanding of the universe?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-08-10 at 03:28:10
Doesn't really matter if there is an answer or not. We can view it however we want. Those are opinions.
Does a tree make a sound if it falls and nobody is around to hear it?
Well, do you believe it does? I do. Somebody else doesn't.
A real question that dosn't have an end might be:
How many numbers in the number pi? Well, a computer has been calculating this since the 80's and there are still numbers coming out. Quite possibly, there is no end. But, somebody else probably thinks otherwise. Unanswerable questions are opinions. All questions have answers. Its just a matter of creating an answer that we like.
(Does the universe have an end. I would hope so... But the real question is if there is an end, what lies beyond? That again, is all up to your opinion).
Actually, that is untrue. Observation changes the outcome of everything. Light when being viewed is a particle. When it is not observed it is a wave.
Just like if nothing hears the tree fall it might not have made a sound. Nobody knows because there is a possibiliy out of the endless possibilities that is didn't make a sound.
Just like, if you walk away from a waterfall until you cant hear it anymore, it might not be there because out of the endless possibilities all of the atoms and everything of the waterfall might disappear or decay and the waterfall would be gone.
If you are not observing something then everything possible is happening at every moment in time. Right now, in space, where we aren't observing some light, it is everywhere and every moment in time until we look at it.
Its very hard to wrap around your head, but thats how quatum mechanics works. But, I guess it really depends on if you believe in quatum mechanics or general reletivity.
Does a tree make a sound if it falls and nobody is around to hear it?
Well, do you believe it does? I do. Somebody else doesn't.
A real question that dosn't have an end might be:
How many numbers in the number pi? Well, a computer has been calculating this since the 80's and there are still numbers coming out. Quite possibly, there is no end. But, somebody else probably thinks otherwise. Unanswerable questions are opinions. All questions have answers. Its just a matter of creating an answer that we like.
(Does the universe have an end. I would hope so... But the real question is if there is an end, what lies beyond? That again, is all up to your opinion).
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Huh? A sound doesn't have to be heard to exist. The vibrations still travel through the air, possibly knocking something off a branch or whatnot. Even if nobody's there to hear it, it was there.
That's like saying air doesn't exist because you can't see it.
That's like saying air doesn't exist because you can't see it.
Actually, that is untrue. Observation changes the outcome of everything. Light when being viewed is a particle. When it is not observed it is a wave.
Just like if nothing hears the tree fall it might not have made a sound. Nobody knows because there is a possibiliy out of the endless possibilities that is didn't make a sound.
Just like, if you walk away from a waterfall until you cant hear it anymore, it might not be there because out of the endless possibilities all of the atoms and everything of the waterfall might disappear or decay and the waterfall would be gone.
If you are not observing something then everything possible is happening at every moment in time. Right now, in space, where we aren't observing some light, it is everywhere and every moment in time until we look at it.
Its very hard to wrap around your head, but thats how quatum mechanics works. But, I guess it really depends on if you believe in quatum mechanics or general reletivity.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2005-08-10 at 03:37:08
Yea see, I believe what i want you believe what you want 
I still think nothing really exists untill you know about it.
I still think nothing really exists untill you know about it.Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-08-10 at 03:39:08
You are sort of right. But because we didn't know germs exsisted in the 1300's didn't mean God had cursed man with the plauge. It was a virus; germs. They exsisted even though the people didn't know they did.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by offensivestyle on 2005-08-10 at 06:28:36
Actually every question answer brings another question to it so its sort of like a chain that goes to the infinite.
Such as:
Who created that shoe? The shoemaker
So, who created the shoemaker? God(supposedly)
And who created god? :0 0:
ADDITION:
Um actually I think that is true because look, if there's a tree that falls in the forest where ther are no animals, no people, it won't be considered as a sound that existed. Because if no one heard it, it doesn't exist. Like in space, when something explodes, there isin't sound, because it doesnt exist. And we know sound travels through air/water whatever (sorry if I'm wrong but I never learned this, I read it from a book) but since there isin't air in space, it can't exist.
Also for EzDay: How do they know that supernovas existed before? Like a fart, when there was the first fart, it just appeared from nowhere o_o and how do they know the supernova isint an alien fart? o_O
Such as:
Who created that shoe? The shoemaker
So, who created the shoemaker? God(supposedly)
And who created god? :0 0:
ADDITION:
QUOTE(l)ark_13 @ Aug 10 2005, 01:28 AM)
Doesn't really matter if there is an answer or not. We can view it however we want. Those are opinions.
Does a tree make a sound if it falls and nobody is around to hear it?
Well, do you believe it does? I do. Somebody else doesn't.
A real question that dosn't have an end might be:
How many numbers in the number pi? Well, a computer has been calculating this since the 80's and there are still numbers coming out. Quite possibly, there is no end. But, somebody else probably thinks otherwise. Unanswerable questions are opinions. All questions have answers. Its just a matter of creating an answer that we like.
(Does the universe have an end. I would hope so... But the real question is if there is an end, what lies beyond? That again, is all up to your opinion).
Actually, that is untrue. Observation changes the outcome of everything. Light when being viewed is a particle. When it is not observed it is a wave.
Just like if nothing hears the tree fall it might not have made a sound. Nobody knows because there is a possibiliy out of the endless possibilities that is didn't make a sound.
Just like, if you walk away from a waterfall until you cant hear it anymore, it might not be there because out of the endless possibilities all of the atoms and everything of the waterfall might disappear or decay and the waterfall would be gone.
If you are not observing something then everything possible is happening at every moment in time. Right now, in space, where we aren't observing some light, it is everywhere and every moment in time until we look at it.
Its very hard to wrap around your head, but thats how quatum mechanics works. But, I guess it really depends on if you believe in quatum mechanics or general reletivity.
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Does a tree make a sound if it falls and nobody is around to hear it?
Well, do you believe it does? I do. Somebody else doesn't.
A real question that dosn't have an end might be:
How many numbers in the number pi? Well, a computer has been calculating this since the 80's and there are still numbers coming out. Quite possibly, there is no end. But, somebody else probably thinks otherwise. Unanswerable questions are opinions. All questions have answers. Its just a matter of creating an answer that we like.
(Does the universe have an end. I would hope so... But the real question is if there is an end, what lies beyond? That again, is all up to your opinion).
Actually, that is untrue. Observation changes the outcome of everything. Light when being viewed is a particle. When it is not observed it is a wave.
Just like if nothing hears the tree fall it might not have made a sound. Nobody knows because there is a possibiliy out of the endless possibilities that is didn't make a sound.
Just like, if you walk away from a waterfall until you cant hear it anymore, it might not be there because out of the endless possibilities all of the atoms and everything of the waterfall might disappear or decay and the waterfall would be gone.
If you are not observing something then everything possible is happening at every moment in time. Right now, in space, where we aren't observing some light, it is everywhere and every moment in time until we look at it.
Its very hard to wrap around your head, but thats how quatum mechanics works. But, I guess it really depends on if you believe in quatum mechanics or general reletivity.
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Um actually I think that is true because look, if there's a tree that falls in the forest where ther are no animals, no people, it won't be considered as a sound that existed. Because if no one heard it, it doesn't exist. Like in space, when something explodes, there isin't sound, because it doesnt exist. And we know sound travels through air/water whatever (sorry if I'm wrong but I never learned this, I read it from a book) but since there isin't air in space, it can't exist.
Also for EzDay: How do they know that supernovas existed before? Like a fart, when there was the first fart, it just appeared from nowhere o_o and how do they know the supernova isint an alien fart? o_O
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-08-10 at 10:34:00
Two more of those questions:
What came first, chicken or the egg?
If a tree falls in a forest and noone is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Um, some answerable, but not for why you'd think:
How far can one go into a forest until he's walking out of it?
When can one no longer go north?
You're new in town and need a haircut. Two barbers have shops side by side. One is messy, disorganized, and has a hidious haircut, the other is organized, and sports a perfect haircut, which one would you go to?
What came first, chicken or the egg?
If a tree falls in a forest and noone is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Um, some answerable, but not for why you'd think:
How far can one go into a forest until he's walking out of it?
When can one no longer go north?
You're new in town and need a haircut. Two barbers have shops side by side. One is messy, disorganized, and has a hidious haircut, the other is organized, and sports a perfect haircut, which one would you go to?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-08-10 at 13:36:53
1. Amino Acids
2. Yes
3. The longest distance possible between two points on the forest's perimeter
4. The north pole of any planet
5. I'd take the clean one myself.
2. Yes
3. The longest distance possible between two points on the forest's perimeter
4. The north pole of any planet
5. I'd take the clean one myself.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-08-10 at 16:06:01
Well, since what I've learned about those who follow logic/reason/whatever nice words you attach to it, there are answers to everything; some of them haven't been answered yet, due to restraints we haven't overcome, but they will be answered eventually. Anyways, that's what I've gotten out of discussions with said followers.
For everything else theres romanticism.
For everything else theres romanticism.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-10 at 16:13:44
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Um actually I think that is true because look, if there's a tree that falls in the forest where ther are no animals, no people, it won't be considered as a sound that existed. Because if no one heard it, it doesn't exist. Like in space, when something explodes, there isin't sound, because it doesnt exist. And we know sound travels through air/water whatever (sorry if I'm wrong but I never learned this, I read it from a book) but since there isin't air in space, it can't exist.
Sound is vibration, not our perception of it.
If a tree falls in the forest, and the sound waves knock a bird's nest down, when the bird comes back, its nest will still be down, regardless of whether anyone heard the sound.
Don't confuse sound with perception.
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Also for EzDay: How do they know that supernovas existed before? Like a fart, when there was the first fart, it just appeared from nowhere o_o and how do they know the supernova isint an alien fart? o_O
They didn't know, that's exactly the thing. So did supernovas appear out of nowhere, for no reason, somehow fitting into our understanding of the universe?
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What came first, chicken or the egg?
Depends on who you ask.
If you ask a Christian Fundamentalist, he'll say the chicken, because God created it.
Ask an evolutionist, then it's the egg, because something that was almost, but not quite a chicken laid an egg, the egg had a mutation in it and grew into a chicken instead of whatever its parent was.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-08-10 at 17:08:57
Ah, but what if the almost-chicken had a mutation during its life to become that chicken?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ihatett_da_hated on 2005-08-10 at 17:17:29
Chances are slim, because it wouldn't always pass on to the baby.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-08-10 at 17:27:36
So it's more likely that the egg came first?