Report, edit, etc...Posted by SiLeNT(U) on 2005-08-11 at 14:22:47
There is a new patch, I dled it and it said that:
- Fixed a Bug that caused certain maps to crash.
Anyway, I tried EUDs and none of the maps worked, I think EUDs are gone...
OFFICIAL STATEMENT:
A small patch was released just to fix a bug related to some crashes on battle.net. If you encounter any trouble or notice any issues arising from the new patch, please post them in the OTS forum.
- Fixed a Bug that caused certain maps to crash.
Anyway, I tried EUDs and none of the maps worked, I think EUDs are gone...
OFFICIAL STATEMENT:
A small patch was released just to fix a bug related to some crashes on battle.net. If you encounter any trouble or notice any issues arising from the new patch, please post them in the OTS forum.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HeroicRaptor on 2005-08-11 at 14:38:49
I did post a topic in the OTS forum on b.net. Doubt it will do any good though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fwop_ on 2005-08-11 at 14:41:22
well, now we can just get on with our lives. i think we can still make maps without EUD triggers
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-08-11 at 14:42:00
Hm, my news post is gone so I'll post here, yoshi's probably making one talking about how EUD's are gone right now. Anyways, Blizzard did the right thing like it or not. They would have lost gamers due to EUD, plus, possible liability problems could have risen, Blizzard took time to look into this, I'm sure they made the right choice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SiLeNT(U) on 2005-08-11 at 14:42:47
I agree, if they turned down a chance to rejuvinate SC, they must have a good reason. The bad must have outweighed the good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-08-11 at 14:44:41
But, one thing I don't get is why do they make the 1.13b patch have a description so... INSIGNIFICANT?
"Fixed a small bug that caused some maps to crash." What kind of farewell speech is that? We FINALLY find a loophole which is legal to make never-before-seen maps, and it's gone.
And all they CAN SAY IS THAT IT'S JUST SOME "SMALL BUG"?!?!?!? I rest my case.
"Fixed a small bug that caused some maps to crash." What kind of farewell speech is that? We FINALLY find a loophole which is legal to make never-before-seen maps, and it's gone.
And all they CAN SAY IS THAT IT'S JUST SOME "SMALL BUG"?!?!?!? I rest my case.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Psi on 2005-08-11 at 14:59:05
Right now I'm on B.net right running unpatched 1.13 and I'm NEVER LOGGING OFF!!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Kirbycode774 on 2005-08-11 at 15:03:50
QUOTE(Psi @ Aug 11 2005, 11:59 AM)
Right now I'm on B.net right running unpatched 1.13 and I'm NEVER LOGGING OFF!!!!
Well, at least we know that Psi is still alive! Yay!
Now all we need is qPirateKing..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stilth on 2005-08-11 at 15:06:43
****!!!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SiLeNT(U) on 2005-08-11 at 15:10:21
JohnDS from battle.net said:
I do not have the details of what exactly was patched. I do know that it addressed an issue with crashes and connectivity. If the triggers were directly or indirectly affected by this change, it was done for the safety of the community as a whole and not to limit any aspect of the game.
I do not have the details of what exactly was patched. I do know that it addressed an issue with crashes and connectivity. If the triggers were directly or indirectly affected by this change, it was done for the safety of the community as a whole and not to limit any aspect of the game.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by darth_ender on 2005-08-11 at 15:30:43
I think this BattleLAN could at least preserve for those interested online playing without requiring the d/l of the new patch. It might be worth it for some.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=3760
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=3760
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ninebreaker on 2005-08-11 at 15:43:51
As i said in the news forum, i don't really care much about EUDs any more, like the
"Ultimate Glitch" To me it got old fast, really fast.
"Ultimate Glitch" To me it got old fast, really fast.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-08-12 at 08:11:55
It seems that they arent all gone, my cheat detector triggers still work...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Jamal.oO on 2005-08-12 at 09:52:40
- Why would they do this to us?
- They're Evil
- We were jst having fun
- NOOO!
Fun Limit Dropped
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2005-08-12 at 10:09:18
QUOTE(Kumano @ Aug 12 2005, 08:11 AM)
It seems that they arent all gone, my cheat detector triggers still work...
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Well duh, most/all cheat detectors do not require EUDS...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-08-12 at 10:45:05
Mine are, try detecting staying alive without EUDs...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by InkPot on 2005-08-12 at 11:29:50
What was the mechanics of the EUD ? How could it worked ? Isn't there anyway to do it with this patch too ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2005-08-12 at 15:25:17
QUOTE(Mr.Kirbycode774 @ Aug 11 2005, 10:44 AM)
But, one thing I don't get is why do they make the 1.13b patch have a description so... INSIGNIFICANT?
"Fixed a small bug that caused some maps to crash." What kind of farewell speech is that? We FINALLY find a loophole which is legal to make never-before-seen maps, and it's gone.
And all they CAN SAY IS THAT IT'S JUST SOME "SMALL BUG"?!?!?!? I rest my case.
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"Fixed a small bug that caused some maps to crash." What kind of farewell speech is that? We FINALLY find a loophole which is legal to make never-before-seen maps, and it's gone.
And all they CAN SAY IS THAT IT'S JUST SOME "SMALL BUG"?!?!?!? I rest my case.
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QUOTE
A recently discovered bug has recently been patched. Unfortunately the bug, that promised much for the UMS community, is no more. There was much speculation if this bug could or not be used in harmful ways at SEN, until superpenguin found one. We promptly reported it to Blizzard and one week later the bug was fixed with today's patch. We kept it quiet for obvious reasons until now.
The UMS community did lose a useful tool, as this bug permitted them some nifty legitimate UMS functionality. DeathKnight, who found the bug that was patched, had this to say on the matter:
"I didn't expect for Blizzard to patch it so quickly, specially something that was so harmless in my mind initially; but then some of us realized that after midnight, the bug could turn into a nasty gremlin. Anyway that is only one of the various methods to allow Starcraft Triggers to contain almost the same functionality as Warcraft III triggers."
As usual the Battle.net team acts quickly when it is a security issue. We really should thank them for up keeping this old game of ours and still listen to us. It should also be an encouragement for more people to report specific hacks and abuse at hack@blizzard.com. They do listen and they do take action. Their time frame may not be to our liking but this last patch 1.13b is sound proof that they do not sleep when our game or battle.net is at risk.
The UMS community did lose a useful tool, as this bug permitted them some nifty legitimate UMS functionality. DeathKnight, who found the bug that was patched, had this to say on the matter:
"I didn't expect for Blizzard to patch it so quickly, specially something that was so harmless in my mind initially; but then some of us realized that after midnight, the bug could turn into a nasty gremlin. Anyway that is only one of the various methods to allow Starcraft Triggers to contain almost the same functionality as Warcraft III triggers."
As usual the Battle.net team acts quickly when it is a security issue. We really should thank them for up keeping this old game of ours and still listen to us. It should also be an encouragement for more people to report specific hacks and abuse at hack@blizzard.com. They do listen and they do take action. Their time frame may not be to our liking but this last patch 1.13b is sound proof that they do not sleep when our game or battle.net is at risk.
Source: Gosugamers.net
If there was a bomb in the building, and announcing there was a bomb in the building would cause wide-spread panic, would you announce that, or easily defuse the bomb without telling anyone yet?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-08-12 at 15:30:57
I would diffuse the bomb, and then tell people. And nobody would believe a thing I said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-08-12 at 16:46:37
QUOTE(Psi @ Aug 11 2005, 02:59 PM)
Right now I'm on B.net right running unpatched 1.13 and I'm NEVER LOGGING OFF!!!!
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That doesn't work. I've been online when they released a patch. They reset your battle.net connection so you have to login again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-08-12 at 18:43:12
How do you get rid of the patch so you can use EUDs in single player still?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Reap_This_Whirlwind on 2005-08-12 at 19:00:55
Blizzard could have hurt SC.
Sc needed something new to it and the EUD triggers were it.
But if Blizzard thought that it would help SC more then the EUD triggers would then they must have made a right choice.
Sc needed something new to it and the EUD triggers were it.
But if Blizzard thought that it would help SC more then the EUD triggers would then they must have made a right choice.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Angelfarto on 2005-08-12 at 20:02:37
Unless they don't want to help Starcraft. So people get interested in new and better games, and pay-for-play games AHEMWoWAHEM. If you ask me, Blizzard can go suck themselves. These triggers were a revival of the Starcraft experience. Heck, they had me making maps again. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say it was exciting to work with this new discovery. The new maps that would have come from these triggers would have been something to see. I haven't gotten the new patch yet, and don't plan to. I think I'll play around with these triggers as long as I can.
To Blizzard: Sincerely, Go F Yourselves, Tools.
To Blizzard: Sincerely, Go F Yourselves, Tools.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-08-13 at 09:54:26
Would you shut up? Blizzard decided to patch it, deal with it. Saying "Blizzard has hurt SC", etc. is not true. They make Starcraft better.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scmmaker on 2005-08-13 at 11:46:29
QUOTE(Kumano @ Aug 12 2005, 12:11 PM)
It seems that they arent all gone, my cheat detector triggers still work...
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Yeah, really. Even upgrade detections with EUDs work. It seems that most EUD conditions still stay alive which means it still allows to 'look' in the memory though impossible 'writing' in the memory. So... conclusively, Blizzard didn't intend to entirely kill the EUD, just the possibilities that might threat the whole sc community, like the virus thing.