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Well I have a few problems with Christianity, mainly literalists or ultraconservatives.

• Their stance on gays: It is bigoted and wrong because the arguement is flawed:
  Why did god "create" homhosexuality when he supposedly "designed" humans and animals if it is a sin? Is god just a sadistic wonderful friend?
• Stance on contraceptives: They don't support obviously beneficial things like abortion and condoms.
• Evolution deniers: Sick wonderful friends want to corrupt our schools.
  I would like to see one positive proof of creation, not an attack on evolution and a flawed either-or arguement.
• Intolerant, does not support other interpretations of god.
• Doesn't give women rights, the bible itself treats women demeaningly.
• Missionaries, hate how they can't just leave people the alone.

i would like to see where it says "thou shalt not use condoms" in the bible....give me a page.

Not exactly the bible, but the Pope at the Vatican have issued statements to that effect.

Nah, "it came from the devil", or some crap like that. Apparently God is not unfalable, and we inherited corruptability from him.


Because the pain and loss of a woman who doesn't want it is nothing compared another life in a corrupt world full of immoral fiends and satistic freaks that believe in completely wrong and basard religions, since of course all atheists and agnostics have no sense of morality and all other religions are incorrect.


Come now, you don't have any evidence against the fact that the Devil made our proof for evolution and Earth's age and such, and neither do you have any evidence against God, but that's only because he's omnipotent and logic cannot be applied to him, so your arguments are inherantly flawed.

Oh ya, you missed the "Thou shalt not kill should make them all vegetarians."

You have the right to hate the people that follow, Christianity. But not the religion itself.

Same with all other religions. Hate the people who follow it and bend and twist it's rules, don't hate the religion.

Oh, except the Mormons. Hate that religion all you want

lol, im a mormon and i hate the "supper" mormons. you know the ones who spew there religion everywhere....yeah...keep it to your self..

This is what the catholics believe. I'm not catholic so I wouldn't know.

Condoms, again catholic belief. As far as abortion, it's not just christians that dont support it, but many other people as well.

Those were the fundamentalists back in the early 20th century (also the time the Scopes Monkey trial took place).

Same goes to everyone.

Um noone does that now. And the bible's description of the treatment of women is just the same as any history book of long time ago as well.

Missionaries are just simply offering some people who know absolutely nothing about God the chance to know him. If the people refuse, they accept that. They don't relentlessly bug people to death saying "BELIEVE IN GOD OR YOU GO TO HELL!"

Um.... What did Christians do in the middle ages?

Forced their beliefs on the people of Jerusalim (However in the hell you spell that) and thus the Holy War happened.

Most Missionarys are there to teach THEIR beliefs, not just about god.

Well things were very strange back in the old days, not very much like today.

......do you sleep thru life or something....... today is EXACTLY like the days of yester year. we have wars over nothing, we have religons that try to force there religions on everyone else. and if they dont take there religion, they try to kill you.... how is that not like the days of old?

1. So it is bad now to not approve of gays? Why should any be forced to accept gay life styles? To many people, if you don't accept gay life styles then your obviously evil.....

2. Its bad now not to approve of abortion??? Even though many scientists claim that the fetis is not clinicly 'alive' when the abortion happens, just think.....if that baby was allowed to live it could have been born and matured to one day cure cancer or something.....you just never know....

3. So its bad now to explain ALL sides of evolution. Don't forget that the thoery of evolution is still called a theory. NOT proven fact yet. There is too many missing links for Darwin's thoery to become fact. Evolution is still unknown and is still being researched. So why is it bad in school to explain Intelligent design (god) and Darwin's theory???? It would seem fair to me to explain all asspects of a still not proven topic.

4. Same with other religions.

5. The bible was written many, many, many years ago. Do you think people who follow christianity treat women the same now as is when the bible was written?? I'm really sure people now treat women horribly -.-

6. So why are missionaries bad?

Now these aren't my view points, I was just thinking of what other people could say to your statement.




mmm I thought this crazy muslem ruler at the time decided to burn down a holy church in Jersusalim (how ever you spell it lol), which, of course, pissed off alot of christians.

Since I'm sleepy and kinda frusrated with this pyware thing on my computer, I'll post what first comes to mind:

If the parents of a yet-to-be-born child want to have it aborted, I can't imagine they'd treat it very well if it were actually born. It'd probably save the baby a lot of pain and keep one more serial killer off the streets.

You can't come to those conclusions right off.

Maybe they want it aborted because they cannot afford it at this time? Or they aren't ready for a kid?

Just because they aborted it, doesn't mean they are going to be :poo:ty parents, and hurt their child.

Edit: Stupid flood control >.<

thats true, i mean, my ex aborted hers cus it would have killed her...i think that is as good of a reason as any..

Abortion should be an option for if the birth would be life threatening to the mother, such as teens.

If the mother/couple could afford the abortion (they are pretty expensive I think) then I think they would have enough money to raise a child //// wouldn't be too bad of parents.

Actually, they aren't too bad, but they still are a heavy hit to the wallet. My main problem with any religion in particular are the crazies that super promote their religion. Such as, visiting our house every other day.

I usually have to call my dog over or start acting like im being possessed by something evil to get rid of them too. They don't take, "No, I;m happy with my beliefs thank you" for an answer.

[center]The only problem I have with ANY organised relegion is...
BLIND FAITH!
Anyone know why this is a problem?... I'm too dependent on seeing, touching, tasting, using my sences to know things.[/center]

All of those issues bug me too. Although I don't have a problem with any religon, as long as they don't try to force their views or opinions onto me.

I don't care what they believe as long as:

1. They don't try to convert me.
2. They don't constantly tell me that I'm going to Hell because I don't share their beliefs.
3. They aren't intolerant of other peoples beliefs. (Ex: Gay marriage is wrong because God said so!111one!!11)

Chris, give me any hole in evolution that I can't refute. Any. And shouldn't intelligent design stand on its own feet rather than saying, evolution is wrong, so intelligent design must be right? It is also known as an either-or fallacy, so what if A is wrong, that does not prove B is right. There may be an explanation C, D, and E that we havent found out yet.

Chris, all those unwanted children, products of incest and rape and molestation, underage sex, carelessness, etc. would you adopt them all if you care so much about the right to live. Many of these children will lead horrible lives, doomed to poverty and neglect, depression and possibly suicide.

Christ, I believe that the stance against gays is ridicoulous. Gays ususally do not choose to be gay, adn even if they do, gayness affect their hypothalamus in such a way that it cannot be reversed. Why is heterosexuality right and homosexuality wrong? Can you point to anything other than the bible?

Missionaires are bad because I don't see why they can't just leave people the alone. I mean, a lot of them had their own religions before, so why do you have to force your views on them?

If you can't afford / aren't ready for a baby, keep your pants ON.

That is all

I remember in history class last year, the muslims never damaged the temples. They had respect for other people's history. I think the reason why the war started, was because a few religious fanatics wanted to get their holy land back, just because it was their holy land. It was something like that. All I know, is that it was a dumb ass war. It was like, king stupid.

Back on topic:
I got no real problem with religion, until the people that decide what laws I'm going to live by are influenced by a book written 2000 years ago. I'm sorry, but that really pisses me off.

It wasn't the muslem people I am talking about. The current Muslem ruler at the time ordered the church to be burned down. Then the Muslem people revolted and killed the ruler and tried to say sorry but it was too late....

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Where the are the missing links? Still don't have any for humans. Why are you acting so black and white on this topic? A few people beleive Intelligent design more then the theory of eveolution, BUT ITS ALL THEORYS!!!!! NO FACT!!!!!!!!! GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD. Your the kind of person who would only tell teachers to explain about Darwin's theory and NOTHING else. I'm saying teachers should explain ALL asspects of the issue becuase nothing is fact.

Rape? Every women that gets raped/molestation/incest goes to the hospital and get emergency pills that stop pregnancy only if they are taken with in a day of having sex.......I forget what they are called but thats what they get.
Carelessness? You get what you deserved for being an idiot. Having sex with out protection....WHAT THE HELL DID YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN. Plus, your acting like the only people who have sex are the poor people who can't afford children.

So if people don't approve of gays they are ridiculous? THAT view of yours is ridiculous, you should accept ALL people's views and beleifs....

Missionaries are bad becuase they help native populations? DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH HELP THEY BRING TO MANY TRIBES ALL OVER THE WORLD!?!?! Man, why do you think it is so bad that they offer Christianity to people who don't know about the outside world? Why is it so bad to try and bring other people into your religion? It would be like you trying to convince other people to leave christianity.

Not this again... please.

Why? No one says that you have to agree with their point of view, but accept as in not trying to ram your beliefs down their throat.



I'm sure trying to convince people to leave Christianity would piss them off as much as it pisses me off when people try to convert me to a religion.

Good points.

But you're fighting a losing battle. He won't listen.