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Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-27 at 21:36:12
I decided to put this in serious discussion and see what happens.

The premise is that someone says something that they strongly believe, but that many others might disagree with (for example nuclearrabbit saying something about anarchy), people agree and disagree about it for a while until:

1. People get bored of it
2. Flaming escalates to unsafe levels
3. Most of the community ends up excluded from the discussion
4. Most people think it's time to move on to something else (although the previous topic can be continued in a separate thread).

For example (you can skip this if you want):
nuclearrabbit: An anarchist society is better then both a capitalist one and a socialist one because of x y and z reasons.
ihatett: Your completely wrong as always, an anarchist society wouldn't work and a capitalist one would be much better for these reasons
otherperson: agrees or disagrees
debate debate debate etc etc etc
AnotherPerson: This is getting old how about: "Religion robs people of their free will by making them follow stupid sets of rules for no apparent reason"
krazydrunkking: Sure, let's switch to this.
Milleniumarmy: Intelligent debate about the new topic
Stupidn00b: OMG I LIEK TO FLAME IN ALL CAPS
Kame: ^ Your warn level go up again disgust.gif ^
Stupidn00b: I DON'T CAREE! I USE PROXY AND MAKE NEW ACCOUNT
Yoshi: IP Banneded!
Farty: Because this topic is generating too much flame lets switch to another one
STARS Chris: Nah, lets stick with this one, the flaming is gone
Farty: OK! debate debate debate...
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The only thing I can see going wrong is people spending too much time arguing about which topic to do next and such.

Ready!
BEGIN!

ADDITION:
I would start with:
Argree or disagree (and state your reasons) with the following:
"Sometimes something forces you to make people do things you really doesn't want to make them do and the only way you can get what you really want is if that someone goes against your wishes."

But I'm sure you people could come up with much better topics.

[summon=nuclearrabbit]GO RABBIT GO![/summonspell]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-08-27 at 21:39:34
The only way to get to the top is to manipulate other beneathe you (much to their dislikeing)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-27 at 21:42:04
Although this may be true in many traditional places, it isn't true everywhere.

I think you need to be more specific.

You don't need to manipluate to get to the top of a literal hill.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-08-28 at 02:36:32
You need to manipulate your legs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2005-08-28 at 11:12:49
How about:

Green is the most common color on earth.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2005-08-28 at 13:44:25
People who are "mentaly retarded" (No offense intended) shouldn't go to school.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-28 at 15:31:09
Sure lets run with that one:

I think that they should go to school in some sense, although the schools they go to should be very different from other schools (although not more expensive), and they shouldn't be held to the same standards as other students (shouldn't have to pass the same tests).

But you should have stated a reason Infested-Jerk to give me something to argue against.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-08-28 at 16:16:06
[center]You want something controversal? Lemme think for 2 seconds...
Relegion.
Government.
Money.

If you think about it, nearly every problem has a root in one of those...

Okay... I'm just gonna throw this out there and see what happens.
Humans think they're the smartest thing on this planet? Huh? You're wrong. They're the dumbest. We've ruined nearly every ecosystem on this planet, we've killed off whole species of animals, it's amazing we're still here. If humans were completly wiped off the face of the planet, it would be no worse off then it is now. Actually, it'd probably be better off than it currently is.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-08-28 at 16:42:10
meh, I guess that this kind of topic doesn't really work out...

*m.r.bob thinks about closing up topic

*m.r.bob decides, nah

I'll ignore it though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-08-28 at 21:23:27
QUOTE(nuclearrabbit @ Aug 28 2005, 02:16 PM)
[center]You want something controversal? Lemme think for 2 seconds...
Relegion.
Government.
Money.

If you think about it, nearly every problem has a root in one of those...

Okay... I'm just gonna throw this out there and see what happens.
Humans think they're the smartest thing on this planet? Huh? You're wrong. They're the dumbest. We've ruined nearly every ecosystem on this planet, we've killed off whole species of animals, it's amazing we're still here. If humans were completly wiped off the face of the planet, it would be no worse off then it is now. Actually, it'd probably be better off than it currently is.
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I dont think there is anybody that would really disagree with that.But i would like to see a revolution in American government.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-08-29 at 18:43:03
QUOTE(lonely_duck @ Aug 28 2005, 09:23 PM)
I dont think there is anybody that would really disagree with that.But i would like to see a revolution in American government.
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And when that happens the Canadian army walks in and conquers
The four soldiers in all their glory
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-08-29 at 21:57:34
QUOTE(the_man103 @ Aug 29 2005, 04:43 PM)
And when that happens the Canadian army walks in and conquers
The four soldiers in all their glory
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the man is always bringing me down wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-08-30 at 03:29:30
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Relegion.
Government.
Money.

If you think about it, nearly every problem has a root in one of those...
They are normally only blamed for things. Religious wars are seldom (If never) only about religion.
Money is the real cause for most of the problems in the world, simply because it is a scapegoat for the wants of people with less than those who have it.

My arrogant topic is:
Morals and values on life hold people back from their full potential. They have never aided in the creation of anything worth having.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-08-30 at 14:58:33
QUOTE(the_man103 @ Aug 29 2005, 04:43 PM)
And when that happens the Canadian army walks in and conquers
The four soldiers in all their glory
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NOTHING CAN BEAT 4 DRUNKEN HOCKEY PLAYERS, GO CANADA!

O Canada! Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-08-31 at 00:47:43
Now in french go for it syphon8
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-08-31 at 00:48:56
QUOTE(the_man103 @ Aug 30 2005, 10:47 PM)
Now in french go for it syphon8
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NEVER
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-08-31 at 00:54:16
Pourquoi Tu ne parle pas francais
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-08-31 at 01:15:31
You know I don't
Report, edit, etc...Posted by m2nello on 2005-08-31 at 01:17:42
lol ya
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2005-08-31 at 22:30:31
QUOTE(nuclearrabbit @ Aug 28 2005, 03:16 PM)
[center]You want something controversal? Lemme think for 2 seconds...
Relegion.
Government.
Money.

If you think about it, nearly every problem has a root in one of those...

Okay... I'm just gonna throw this out there and see what happens.
Humans think they're the smartest thing on this planet? Huh? You're wrong. They're the dumbest. We've ruined nearly every ecosystem on this planet, we've killed off whole species of animals, it's amazing we're still here. If humans were completly wiped off the face of the planet, it would be no worse off then it is now. Actually, it'd probably be better off than it currently is.
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Better to whom? The earth? Earth is fine. We're nothing compared to the Earth. Earth can easily kick our ass if it wanted, but it's not going to cause we're just not a big enough threat.

We're not the smartest? Please, give me the definition of what you're using for the word smart.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-09-05 at 01:09:38
I think capitalism isn't just wrong, its a bunch of rich corporate wonderful friends sitting in a room talking about what other rights they can take from the working class. Corporations are twisted and should be to the realm of non-vital household goods.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-09-05 at 10:48:38
QUOTE(nuclearrabbit @ Aug 28 2005, 12:16 PM)
[center]You want something controversal? Lemme think for 2 seconds...
Relegion.
Government.
Money.

If you think about it, nearly every problem has a root in one of those...

Okay... I'm just gonna throw this out there and see what happens.
Humans think they're the smartest thing on this planet? Huh? You're wrong. They're the dumbest. We've ruined nearly every ecosystem on this planet, we've killed off whole species of animals, it's amazing we're still here. If humans were completly wiped off the face of the planet, it would be no worse off then it is now. Actually, it'd probably be better off than it currently is.
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Earth is the specimen on display. Humans, are the virus.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-09-06 at 00:51:56
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I think capitalism isn't just wrong, its a bunch of rich corporate wonderful friends sitting in a room talking about what other rights they can take from the working class. Corporations are twisted and should be to the realm of non-vital household goods.
Ok, so your veiw is against Capitalism, and for....? There isn't really a proven better way.

Capitalism basically is regulated by how much people want things. The corporations are there because YOU (The consumer) wanted there stuff. Otherwise they would have just gone out of business. THe only true problem with it is when the corporations try to impose laws restricting resource areas. Government tries to hold it together, but they cannot see which laws would make the economy a fairer playing field and which will end in screwing everyone. The main point is that in every system, there will be the rich who screws everyone over. Name one place on earth, no matter what their government system, that has no economic difference between the ruling class and that of the average person, I'm moving there.

And in actuality, the corporations are better then the government run programs. I pay less money for shipping with FedEx than with the postal service. Simply because one is corporate run and the other is governmental. Truth is government run programs (The basis of communism) don't do as well as Corporate run programs. There are points at which there should be government run programs though, one example I'll make is gasoline.
Many countries in africa have government owned gas stations, so they all get the same pay no matter what they produce. But they get more pay for selling more gasoline. So the gas stations have to compete on different playing feilds than price to get service. So when you drive into a gasoline station, they will wipe your window, fill your tank, and wash your car, simply because thats the only way to beat competition. They have to out perform the competitors.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Dr.Shotgun on 2005-09-06 at 17:57:26
Corporations, though, are more corrupt. They and hide they're real actions. And once they have vital utilities or big industry, everything goes wrong.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-09-10 at 14:02:34


Let ME dispense the justice in the world!

Unfortunately not many people would be alive.
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