Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wormer on 2005-08-30 at 08:07:33
Am I right that when conditions of two or more triggers are equal then the trigger that is 'higher' will be executed first and after the trigger is done the next trigger will be executed if conditions still remain the same.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kumano on 2005-08-30 at 08:49:30
Yes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-08-30 at 11:10:58
The triggers will be checked in the order they're displayed in Staredit, which is from the top down in P1, then from the top down in P2... when it reaches triggers checked for All Players, it will check for P1 first, then P2, etc., and lastly the Forces, in the same manner.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-08-30 at 17:00:20
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Aug 30 2005, 10:10 AM)
The triggers will be checked in the order they're displayed in Staredit, which is from the top down in P1, then from the top down in P2... when it reaches triggers checked for All Players, it will check for P1 first, then P2, etc., and lastly the Forces, in the same manner.
[right][snapback]301528[/snapback][/right]
[right][snapback]301528[/snapback][/right]
Thats wrong...
Group owned triggers are fired along with the rest of each of those players triggers. It is impossable to tell if a Player 1 trigger or a Allplayers trigger will fire first unless you move one of the triggers.
Its very possable for the triggers to fire like this.
Player 1's trigger
All Players Trigger for player 1
More of Player 1's Triggers
All Players Trigger for Player 2
Players 2's trigger
The actuall order that Group owned triggers fire in are dependant on when you make the trigger. Staredit doesn't actually display the order (this is why it is easyer to tell someone to delete their hyper triggers and recreate them as opposed to telling them to make sure there at the end.)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-08-30 at 23:50:31
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Aug 30 2005, 05:00 PM)
Thats wrong...
Group owned triggers are fired along with the rest of each of those players triggers. It is impossable to tell if a Player 1 trigger or a Allplayers trigger will fire first unless you move one of the triggers.
Its very possable for the triggers to fire like this.
Player 1's trigger
All Players Trigger for player 1
More of Player 1's Triggers
All Players Trigger for Player 2
Players 2's trigger
The actuall order that Group owned triggers fire in are dependant on when you make the trigger. Staredit doesn't actually display the order (this is why it is easyer to tell someone to delete their hyper triggers and recreate them as opposed to telling them to make sure there at the end.)
[right][snapback]301743[/snapback][/right]
Group owned triggers are fired along with the rest of each of those players triggers. It is impossable to tell if a Player 1 trigger or a Allplayers trigger will fire first unless you move one of the triggers.
Its very possable for the triggers to fire like this.
Player 1's trigger
All Players Trigger for player 1
More of Player 1's Triggers
All Players Trigger for Player 2
Players 2's trigger
The actuall order that Group owned triggers fire in are dependant on when you make the trigger. Staredit doesn't actually display the order (this is why it is easyer to tell someone to delete their hyper triggers and recreate them as opposed to telling them to make sure there at the end.)
[right][snapback]301743[/snapback][/right]
Bolt, we had this argument in another post...
ADDITION:
Since you seemed so confident, I decided to test it out in a map. I created 1 set of triggers that created units for individual Players, All Players, then the Forces. Then I made a second set that did the same, but I created them in reverse order. I've used comments to label the exact order of each trigger in its creation. The results are in your favor. Looks like Blizzard lied.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-08-30 at 23:57:43
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Aug 30 2005, 10:50 PM)
Bolt, we had this argument in another post...
ADDITION:
Since you seemed so confident, I decided to test it out in a map. I created 1 set of triggers that created units for individual Players, All Players, then the Forces. Then I made a second set that did the same, but I created them in reverse order. I've used comments to label the exact order of each trigger in its creation. The results are in your favor. Looks like Blizzard lied.
[right][snapback]301761[/snapback][/right]
ADDITION:
Since you seemed so confident, I decided to test it out in a map. I created 1 set of triggers that created units for individual Players, All Players, then the Forces. Then I made a second set that did the same, but I created them in reverse order. I've used comments to label the exact order of each trigger in its creation. The results are in your favor. Looks like Blizzard lied.
[right][snapback]301761[/snapback][/right]
I'm glad you decided to test it on your own cause i was next going to say something like "no i'm sorry i'm correct, you can try to prove me wrong if you want"
lol but I don't blizzard lied for say they just had a crappy way of trying to explain trigger order. The Players tab does list the players in that order like they stated but the triggers don't fire in that order.
This is what i like to refer to as the truth about triggerorder witch i've tried to get people to understand for years. Its absoloutly amazing how far you can come in mapmaking before understanding the order triggers are fired in.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2005-08-31 at 08:25:47
QUOTE((U)Bolt_Head @ Aug 30 2005, 11:57 PM)
I'm glad you decided to test it on your own cause i was next going to say something like "no i'm sorry i'm correct, you can try to prove me wrong if you want"
lol but I don't blizzard lied for say they just had a crappy way of trying to explain trigger order. The Players tab does list the players in that order like they stated but the triggers don't fire in that order.
This is what i like to refer to as the truth about triggerorder witch i've tried to get people to understand for years. Its absoloutly amazing how far you can come in mapmaking before understanding the order triggers are fired in.
[right][snapback]301848[/snapback][/right]
lol but I don't blizzard lied for say they just had a crappy way of trying to explain trigger order. The Players tab does list the players in that order like they stated but the triggers don't fire in that order.
This is what i like to refer to as the truth about triggerorder witch i've tried to get people to understand for years. Its absoloutly amazing how far you can come in mapmaking before understanding the order triggers are fired in.
[right][snapback]301848[/snapback][/right]
But now how will we be able to change trigger orders after they're made?!
I'd assume you can take a hex editor or something and change the basic codes, but that's... not good enough. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-08-31 at 10:00:27
QUOTE(PCFredZ @ Aug 31 2005, 07:25 AM)
But now how will we be able to change trigger orders after they're made?! I'd assume you can take a hex editor or something and change the basic codes, but that's... not good enough.
[right][snapback]302039[/snapback][/right]
I'd assume you can take a hex editor or something and change the basic codes, but that's... not good enough. [right][snapback]302039[/snapback][/right]
You have to give the trigger to the other player, move it to where you want it and then give it back to the group.
Group triggers are evil.